Do Dinosaur Fossils Validate the "Old Earth" Theory?

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There's the two theories: Old and new Earth.

Don't dinosaur fossils pretty much prove and Old Earth?
 
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The Bible says the nephilim is the origin of the giants. One theory (probably the best) is that some type of eugenics or genetic modification (in other words science) was involved. Science requires experiments. Dinosaurs are the results of experiments on birds and reptiles. That puts their ceration to within the memories of written history, thus within the last 6000 or so years.
 
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There's the two theories: Old and new Earth.

Don't dinosaur fossils pretty much prove and Old Earth?
Not at all in fact the bible actually speaks about dinosaurs. See Job 40:15 and Behemoth as well as Job 41:1 and Leviathan. Also we need to remember that the dating methods used have heavy assumptions as well as circular reasoning. You'll hear about fossils being dated by the rock layer they are found in but then you'll also hear about rock layers being dated by the fossils that are found in them.

Only if you think that dinosaurs lived and died out millions of years ago would their existence be a confirmation of the Old Earth theory.

See also: Dinosaurs and the Bible - Answers in Genesis

https://www.apologeticspress.org/apcontent.aspx?category=9&article=743

Allegedly "65-million" year old Tyranassarus rex soft tissue | Young Earth .com Evidence Against Old Earth Arguments
 
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There's the two theories: Old and new Earth.

Don't dinosaur fossils pretty much prove and Old Earth?
Its say in the scriptures that the serpents once walked upright and walked among the earth with humans and then over time they'd progressed into creatures that slithers around on their bellies.

Here's a video that I'd posted on another post that tell that humans walked among dinosaurs and how our great scientific minds comes up with their theories.


<strong>[video=youtube_share;6oGqPc6poS4]http://youtu.be/6oGqPc6poS4[/video]


One day they'll have the wisdom know how to put their facts together.
 
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Its say in the scriptures that the serpents once walked upright and walked among the earth with humans and then over time they'd progressed into creatures that slithers around on their bellies.

Here's a video that I'd posted on another post that tell that humans walked among dinosaurs and how our great scientific minds comes up with their theories.


<strong>[video=youtube_share;6oGqPc6poS4]http://youtu.be/6oGqPc6poS4[/video]


One day they'll have the wisdom know how to put their facts together.
Does it really say that? That's quite fascinating!
 

john832

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Does it really say that? That's quite fascinating!
No, it doesn't...

Gen 3:1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?

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From H5172; a snake (from its hiss): - serpent.

Do some research on nachash and you will find it means bright shiny one. If you look a little deeper you will run across some information about the "whispering enchanter".
 

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Dinosaurs, or "dragons" as they were referred to prior to the 1800s, validate the Bible, specifically the Great Flood. Contrary to the accepted thinking, dinosaurs/dragons are not extinct. They exist today in miniature; we simply call them lizards. In the pre-flood world, the climate was such that all organisms were protected from the sun's harmful radiation, and the atmosphere contained a higher concentration of oxygen. This was conducive to organisms growing much larger and living much longer than they can now. Reptiles, which grow their entire lives, live for hundreds of years, and grew to enormous sizes in these conditions. Same with people. They really did live into their 900s prior to the flood. And the Bible says that there were giants in those days, and also after that. The fossil record shows giant specimens of almost every known, and many unknown, organisms, including people.
 

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Its say in the scriptures that the serpents once walked upright and walked among the earth with humans and then over time they'd progressed into creatures that slithers around on their bellies.
Maybe you could give us chapters and verses on that?
Instead you just regurgitate a video on multiple threads as if it had authority.
For you I'd recommend more Bible, and less Conspiracy Channel.
 
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Its called cognitive dissonance. The scientific fact conflicts with their beliefs that they hold very strongly, so to avoid the painful conflict of the two in their mind, they simply deny the science.
 

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Alot tof things have to be taken into consideration that these shows don't mention. One is when the folld occurred it rapidly created many layers of sediment while uprooting trees, carrying away animals, etc. etc., so there is much more debris from this happening than normally would happen over the same period. So they look at all these layers and say "each one is 10k years", hwever we know since the flood happened it all happened in an short time. There are trees not decomposed, just incased in the debris, if it didnt happen quickly that would be impossible. Also every civilization in the world has a flood story in thier history, so its not just us that believe this.
 

Huckleberry

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The Bible says the nephilim is the origin of the giants. One theory (probably the best) is that some type of eugenics or genetic modification (in other words science) was involved. Science requires experiments. Dinosaurs are the results of experiments on birds and reptiles.
The Bible does not say that the "nephilim is the origin of the giants".
The word "nephilim" is used in place of "giants" in the modern translations,
because the translators of these perversions don't actually believe what they attempt to translate.
Adam and Eve, and their progeny, were giants.
The Greeks later worshipped them as gods.

Concerning your "best theory" about the great "Bird-Reptile Experiment",
you've pretty much just revealed yourself as a "nut-job".
 
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Does it really say that? That's quite fascinating!
Genesis 3 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

This verse is referring that the descendants of the serpent (Reptiles) will one day be brought down to a lower level in which the descendants of the woman (Human) will be able to stomp on it head; and which the humans will gain from it a bruised heel.

Job 41:1“Can you pull in Leviathan with a fishhook or tie down its tongue with a rope?

Isaiah 27:1
In that day, the Lord will punish with his sword— his fierce, great and powerful sword— Leviathan the gliding serpent, Leviathan the coiling serpent; he will slay the monster of the sea.

Job 40 “Look at Behemoth,

which I made along with you
and which feeds on grass like an ox.
16 What strength it has in its loins,
what power in the muscles of its belly!
17 Its tail sways like a cedar;

That is too much detail as if they were living among them.

In the scriptures it had made it sounded like stepping on serpents head was a big deal. It would be consider a big deal if the serpent had tower over them.

 
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Dinosaurs, or "dragons" as they were referred to prior to the 1800s, validate the Bible, specifically the Great Flood. Contrary to the accepted thinking, dinosaurs/dragons are not extinct. They exist today in miniature; we simply call them lizards. In the pre-flood world, the climate was such that all organisms were protected from the sun's harmful radiation, and the atmosphere contained a higher concentration of oxygen. This was conducive to organisms growing much larger and living much longer than they can now. Reptiles, which grow their entire lives, live for hundreds of years, and grew to enormous sizes in these conditions. Same with people. They really did live into their 900s prior to the flood. And the Bible says that there were giants in those days, and also after that. The fossil record shows giant specimens of almost every known, and many unknown, organisms, including people.
Sure they did...
 

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The Bible does not say that the "nephilim is the origin of the giants".
The word "nephilim" is used in place of "giants" in the modern translations,
because the translators of these perversions don't actually believe what they attempt to translate.
Adam and Eve, and their progeny, were giants.
The Greeks later worshipped them as gods.

Concerning your "best theory" about the great "Bird-Reptile Experiment",
you've pretty much just revealed yourself as a "nut-job".
if he is a nut job then your everyone was giant theory is right there with him.
 
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Beside, why would God curse something that's already on its belly, unless if it weren't on it belly before. Just imagine that a judge sentence someone to the death chamber that already has been sentence to it. ?
 

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Beside, why would God curse something that's already on its belly, unless if it weren't on it belly before. Just imagine that a judge sentence someone to the death chamber that already has been sentence to it. ?
The serpent was a dragon (see Revelation 12:9).
In case you hadn't heard, dragons are reputed to have been able to fly.
(Confirmed in fossil record: see "pteranodon")
After "the Fall", they were relegated to crawling around on all fours.
 
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Why do you people automatically think Behemoth and Leviathan automatically mean dinosaur?
The verses are vague and quite a stretch if you ask me.
What animal that its tail sways like an cedar tree and lies in marsh wetlands. A Hippo fit somewhat that description but it tail doesn't sways like a cedar tree swaying in the wind, but a crocodile tails does sways like a cedar tree in the water, but it doesn't has great strength in its thighs, it barely can hold itself up on land. Unless at one time, the crocodile has stood up higher than it is now, and something has happened to cause them to dwarf. It is so believable for someone to believe that man had gradually over the centuries had transform from apes, but it is so hard to believe that reptile evolved from dinosaurs.

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