Simple Question? Anyone care to answer?

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Jon4TheCross

Jon4TheCross

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The question is simply this:
Do you or do you not want to experience an equal quality of life as everyone else who can experience life?

If you do approve of equality, I will note how many do, and if enough do approve of equality, then perhaps I will post another thread with another question.

If you do not approve of equality, then perhaps you should learn about it.

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[TD]For if there be first a willing mind, it is accepted according to that a man hath, and not according to that he hath not.
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[TD]But by an equality, that now at this time your abundance may be a supply for their want, that their abundance also may be a supply for your want: that there may be equality:
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[TD]As it is written, He that had gathered much had nothing over; and he that had gathered little had no lack.
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I never think in terms of equal life as others.
Although I do think there is one Lord, one baptism, one blood, one Spirit, one Gospel by which we receive LIFE.
Maybe I am not understanding the post...oh well.
 
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It will only happen in the kingdom age when the sin nature is totally abolished for a thousand years. As long as there is sin in the world there will be no equality. so what are getting at?
 
Jon4TheCross

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Kerry,
You are wrong. The Kingdom of God is within us, remember. It is possible to be completely from God and Heaven. Are you implying that it's impossible to be as our Master?
 
Starcrash

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Jon4TheCross said:
The question is simply this:
Do you or do you not want to experience an equal quality of life as everyone else who can experience life?
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As an atheist, I certainly approve of equality and think that everyone should have it. I also don't think it's realistic, but it's an appealing idea.
 
Jon4TheCross

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Starcrash,

The reason you don't think it's realistic is because you do not know the power of God. I believe that you will know the power of God very soon. You do know some of God already, even if you don't know it. Every good thing in you that has developed because of good and holy motivation, is from God and Heaven.

Do you think it's realistic for a person to spend 40 days in the wilderness eating nothing, and drinking out of a valley creek? Cause if the answer is no, then I must tell you that this has happened recently, again.
 
Grace-Like-Rain

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I'm not sure I really understand the question, but if we know that all things are for our own good, meant to refine us and make us more Christlike, and if we acknowledge that each of us is on our own custom-made journey toward that purpose, we can be more content with our own level of quality and not look to our neighbor's. What brings them closer to God may not be what brings us closer.

At least that's my .02
 
Jon4TheCross

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Grace like rain,

If you do not understand the question, perhaps you need to ask some questions?

Yes, this question was for your own good, meant to refine you, and to make you more Christ-like. If you don't understand the question, then ask some questions so you can understand enough to make a real answer.
 
Jon4TheCross

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I will be back tomorrow to respond to any others who would dare contradict LOVE.
 
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1. I believe in equality when it come in the administration of JUSTICE, when it comes to the application of God's rules and His grace.

However, I do not believe in socialism or communist ideals of "equal ownership." Instead I hold fast to the belief that GOD is owner of the WHOLE WORLD and He allows us as His children usage of it.

Sometimes He entrusts us with the stewardship of materials goods for the benefit of His people. However, it is not ownership but usage that is given to us.

I do not believe an "equal quality" of life should be given to all people because that is not the way God created the world. He made it to operate in a certain way for a reason.

If you don't understand what I'm talking about, you should ask questions so you can understand before trying to agree or disagree with my statements.
 
santuzza

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From a salvation perspective, we are all equal in Christ -- our standing as Christians is the same.

However, God gives each of us different gifts which means we are not equal in a pure sense, i.e. my eye does not equal your arm, etc. We are each given our own special gifts and our own individual ministry to fulfill God's will and His glory. My ministry is not the same as your ministry, therefore not equal, but our goal (I hope) is the same: to give glory to God.
 
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I could care less. I have everything The Lord has trusted me with. No more , no less. Am I equal to every one ? No. Do I want to be? No.
 
Jon4TheCross

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Ariel82 said:
1. I believe in equality when it come in the administration of JUSTICE, when it comes to the application of God's rules and His grace.

However, I do not believe in socialism or communist ideals of "equal ownership." Instead I hold fast to the belief that GOD is owner of the WHOLE WORLD and He allows us as His children usage of it.

Sometimes He entrusts us with the stewardship of materials goods for the benefit of His people. However, it is not ownership but usage that is given to us.

I do not believe an "equal quality" of life should be given to all people because that is not the way God created the world. He made it to operate in a certain way for a reason.

If you don't understand what I'm talking about, you should ask questions so you can understand before trying to agree or disagree with my statements.
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I understand that you did not answer the question, as so many are not. The question again is this.....

Do you or do you not WANT to experience an equal quality of life as everyone else who can experience life?
 
Jon4TheCross

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santuzza said:
From a salvation perspective, we are all equal in Christ -- our standing as Christians is the same.

However, God gives each of us different gifts which means we are not equal in a pure sense, i.e. my eye does not equal your arm, etc. We are each given our own special gifts and our own individual ministry to fulfill God's will and His glory. My ministry is not the same as your ministry, therefore not equal, but our goal (I hope) is the same: to give glory to God.
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To whom much is given, much is required. We are all equal in a pure sense.

You did not answer the question either.
 
Jon4TheCross

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Reformedjason said:
I could care less. I have everything The Lord has trusted me with. No more , no less. Am I equal to every one ? No. Do I want to be? No.
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[TD]I speak not by commandment, but by occasion of the forwardness of others, and to prove the sincerity of your love.
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You have just proven the sincerity of your love.
 
Jon4TheCross

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I don't know why it's so hard for so many to see that equality is from God and Heaven. Real love includes complete equality, otherwise it is not real LOVE.

Think about why a group of people would want to live an equal quality of life as everyone else. Oh, by the way... This was our first example of unity, and only example of real unity. The rest is a lie, and is not real LOVE.
 
Jon4TheCross

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A kingdom divided against itself cannot stand. The sad thing is, so many think that they can stand while in division, because they call division something else.....like, for instance, work.

Where are the elders? Anyone? Where are the ones who work a specific and continuous work that is focused on God completely and without distraction?

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Jon4TheCross

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I will move on again. Thought I would see if anything changed, but perhaps people just need to see what sincere love really looks like. So I will start walking and show whoever cares to watch that God can be trusted like a baby not even an hour old trusts their guardians. All other "trust" is not real trust.

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[TD]Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven.
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I have given enough scripture for anyone to ask, seek, and knock for more wisdom, understanding, and knowledge of God. The one needful thing is always there for you to spend as much or as little time with the one needful thing as you care to.

Many are hurting God still, and especially the "believers". I will move on from this once and for all. No point replying, as I will not be logging in to this site again. Did it for quite some time last winter, but too many love to ignore parts of God.
 
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Next Father; I would like to place my personal acknowledgement upon that spiritual wall of prayer, that Most certainly; ALL of the Praise in both the negative and our positive universe, most certainly does belong to You: For the Glory and the Honour in the way that You rule MoreNaturaly, in the Majesty of Your Fairness/Righteousness.
 
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