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Apostol2013

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Today the faith is compromised in churches due to the natural man too many trying to use common sense making themselves fools unto God even rejecting the holy Ghost and many lowering their perception of The Godly ways creating a defeat in their minds , and the outcome an agnostic church that cannot even rebuke a headache lest themselves but we serve a God that is greater that heals raises the dead and casting out devils
 
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Apostol2013 said:
Today the faith is compromised in churches due to the natural man too many trying to use common sense making themselves fools unto God even rejecting the holy Ghost and many lowering their perception of The Godly ways creating a defeat in their minds , and the outcome an agnostic church that cannot even rebuke a headache lest themselves but we serve a God that is greater that heals raises the dead and casting out devils
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please post the name of anyone raised from the dead.

i HAVE TO OBEY the scripture and test the claim. you know that, right?

hopefully whoever it is was in the grave 4 days and stinketh.

i'm serious.....if you're so sure about this - show me the dead raised!!

if i can verify it, i'll come back and post 8 million threads announcing y'all were RIGHT.
 
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Well a sign you want got to answer is 39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas: but it is up to the person to believe or not if a person does not believe then it is useless for that person but the future may change the outcome of things it is also written : 16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;

18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

19 So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God. The Lord was very plain on yhis matter , I have personally cast out demons rebuked death and healed the sick I havent yet raised the dead but i know persons that have persosonaly i also prophesied but you must believe e
 
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Apostol2013 said:
Well a sign you want got to answer is 39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas: but it is up to the person to believe or not if a person does not believe then it is useless for that person but the future may change the outcome of things it is also written : 16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;

18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

19 So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God. The Lord was very plain on yhis matter , I have personally cast out demons rebuked death and healed the sick I havent yet raised the dead but i know persons that have persosonaly i also prophesied but you must believe e
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You know of course that the long ending of Mark is not generally seen as reliable from a textual standpoint. Not a good place at all to develop doctrine.

Those who test God with serpents and poisons generally find it tough going.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
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I could be mistaken, but I don't think he's saying that he's witnessed God raising the dead.

I would imagine he's referring to, "Then he went up and touched the bier they were carrying him on, and the bearers stood still. He said, “Young man, I say to you, get up!” 15 The dead man sat up and began to talk, and Jesus gave him back to his mother." -Luke 7:14-15

I know I serve a God who has raised the dead to life.
 
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Luke 16:29-31 Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.
And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

This should set straight our priorities and Jesus' rebuke about seeking after signs.
 
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yes i belive in the resurection of the dead to not believe would be to deny the whole gospel for jesus was raised first as the firstfruits of that wich is to follow for the dead in christ shall be raised first and we shall be caught up in the air and see him for who he is and that is why we believe to believe is to obey hoim in all righteousness that his love be fullfilled in us , now to reply about the serpents we are not to tempt God in that way but paul was bit by a snake not intentionally that is wehat the bible means that he gave us dominion over many things only if remeaining in jesus like peter walking on water and took his focus off jesus and fell we are tto remain focused on jesus christ he is the centerblock
 
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Apostol2013 said:
Today the faith is compromised in churches due to the natural man too many trying to use common sense making themselves fools unto God even rejecting the holy Ghost and many lowering their perception of The Godly ways creating a defeat in their minds , and the outcome an agnostic church that cannot even rebuke a headache lest themselves but we serve a God that is greater that heals raises the dead and casting out devils
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Since God raises the dead, He is fully capable of raising a dead church ...at least more capable than a dead church raising itself.
 
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Yes true it is God who yields the increase
 
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crossnote said:
Since God raises the dead, He is fully capable of raising a dead church ...at least more capable than a dead church raising itself.
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But who wants to go to a dead Church?
 
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Apostol2013 said:
Today the faith is compromised in churches due to the natural man too many trying to use common sense making themselves fools unto God even rejecting the holy Ghost and many lowering their perception of The Godly ways creating a defeat in their minds , and the outcome an agnostic church that cannot even rebuke a headache lest themselves but we serve a God that is greater that heals raises the dead and casting out devils
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I agree, interpunction is SO overrated... :rolleyes:
 
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Kerry said:
But who wants to go to a dead Church?
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Do you mean where two or three are gathered in His name or to a brick and motar building where echoes of past truths can be faintly heard?
 
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i guess no one likes a dead church I dont either
 
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