Do you find limited atonement in the Old Testament?
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Exodus 12:48-49, "And when a stranger lives among you and wants to sacrifice the Passover to Yahweh, let all his males be circumcised, and then let him come near, and sacrifice it; and he shall be as a native of the land. But no uncircumcised person shall eat of it. One Law shall be for the nativeborn and for the stranger who dwells among you."
Numbers 15:15-16, "One ordinance shall be for you of the congregation, and for the stranger who sojourns with you, as an ordinance forever throughout your generations. As you are, so shall the stranger be in front of Yahweh. One Law and one manner shall be for you and for the stranger who asojourns with you."
Numbers 15:15-16, "One ordinance shall be for you of the congregation, and for the stranger who sojourns with you, as an ordinance forever throughout your generations. As you are, so shall the stranger be in front of Yahweh. One Law and one manner shall be for you and for the stranger who asojourns with you."
Im not fully sure if I understand what your asking but
There was still a point to have Israyl, it was SUPPOSED to be a light to the world, so all the other nations would see how blessed they were and say, "dang, I wanna be like that, how do I do it?" You know then all would eventually turn to Yahweh, but of course Israyl went astray.
Ezekiyl 18:21, "But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he has committed, and keepall My statutes, and do that which is Lawful and right, then he will surely live; he will not die."
Even now we still have to turn from our sin after recieveing the blood of Messiah, IMO Yahshua's blood covered all the sins even of those prior to the actual Sacrifice, as the blood of animals could never really cleanse sin.
And the stranger who dosent worship Yahweh, IDK, my guess is they would be in trouble?
There was still a point to have Israyl, it was SUPPOSED to be a light to the world, so all the other nations would see how blessed they were and say, "dang, I wanna be like that, how do I do it?" You know then all would eventually turn to Yahweh, but of course Israyl went astray.
Ezekiyl 18:21, "But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he has committed, and keepall My statutes, and do that which is Lawful and right, then he will surely live; he will not die."
Even now we still have to turn from our sin after recieveing the blood of Messiah, IMO Yahshua's blood covered all the sins even of those prior to the actual Sacrifice, as the blood of animals could never really cleanse sin.
And the stranger who dosent worship Yahweh, IDK, my guess is they would be in trouble?
In the ark nobody listened to the man that spoke Yahweh's word, Noah, so onlt 8 people were saved from the flood.
And as for the time of Abraham I dont think it was much different, we are not told what the instructions were but Yahweh gave Laws to Abraham also:
Genesis 26:5, "Because Abraham obeyed My voice, and kept My charge, My commandments, My statutes, and My Laws."
I think Yahweh has always and will always command a certian moral code of His people, and as long as those people obey and do it in the way intended, in love, and in submission to Yahweh I think all is well for those people.
And as for the time of Abraham I dont think it was much different, we are not told what the instructions were but Yahweh gave Laws to Abraham also:
Genesis 26:5, "Because Abraham obeyed My voice, and kept My charge, My commandments, My statutes, and My Laws."
I think Yahweh has always and will always command a certian moral code of His people, and as long as those people obey and do it in the way intended, in love, and in submission to Yahweh I think all is well for those people.
Noah's Ark was a testimony to all men who saw the ark being built, they reject the warning. If they all were doomed from the womb, save Noah and his family, no warning would seem necessary. But was the building of the ark a warning sign? The bible doesn't specifically say, but God could have built the ark for Him and command Noah and the animals to enter it that very day. I can't see how Noah's building an ark wasn't a sign to all men and I'm sure Noah received a lot of ridicule for building it.
Clearly though it could not fit all men in the world, I believe they calculated that on the ark 1/3 of it would fit all the animals - Sure a testimony, and I think there was room for more people than the 8 and all the animals that went, but still the size would not fit all men
Not saying that God doesn't give a testimony of Himself - for even everyone's heart knows has the knowledge of God written on it.
- I hold more of an unlimited, limited atonement view - That salvation is for all, but few will receive - but I am not closed to limited atonement either
I think your spot on.
Mattithyah 24:37-40, "But just as the days of Noah were, so will also be the coming of the Son of Man; For just as in those days before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying while giving in marriage, until the day that Noah went into the ark, And did not know until the flood came and swept them all away. So also will be the coming of the Son of Man."
Mattithyah 24:37-40, "But just as the days of Noah were, so will also be the coming of the Son of Man; For just as in those days before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying while giving in marriage, until the day that Noah went into the ark, And did not know until the flood came and swept them all away. So also will be the coming of the Son of Man."
Mattithyah 7:13-14, "Enter in through the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and many are those who go that way. Because straight is the gate, and narrow is the way which leads to life, and few there are who find it."
The world doesnt seem to see the "ark being built" and doesnt seem to know few will enter it.
The world doesnt seem to see the "ark being built" and doesnt seem to know few will enter it.
