The Mystery of “666”

[Bob1953]

An extremely long time ago, back when I was about the same age as many of you, I was looking at a couple of versions of the Bible, including my Mother’s New English version, as I studied this verse:

This calls for wisdom: let him who has understanding reckon the number of the beast, for it is a human number, its number is six hundred and sixty-six. Revelation 13:18 RSV

I believe one of the versions contained the phrase “sum of the digits,” or some such thing, and it got me to thinking. There are twenty-six letters in the alphabet. In that range, three numbers have digits that add up to 6: 6, 15 (1+5=6), and 24 (2+4=6). The sixth letter is “F.” The fifteenth is “O.” The twenty-fourth is “X.” Put them together and you’ve got “FOX.” Certainly Satan is much like a fox, as he tricks us into doing what is wrong. Read these:

Now the serpent was more subtle than any other wild creature that the LORD God had made…. Genesis 3:1
Then the LORD God said to the woman, "What is this that you have done?" The woman said, "The serpent beguiled me, and I ate." Genesis 3:13

What do you think 666 means?

 

[loveallserveall]

I'll go with "Fox", sure.

I can't stand Rupert Murdoch. Half my reason for boycotting myspace is that he owns it. The other half is that they made it to 2 million users through their reputation as a place gross people could "hook up" for gross activities.

Not only do they (Fox) give jobs to traitors like Ollie North, and crooked cops that lost their job for racist comments, like Mark Fuhrman, but when Matt Hale tried to assassinate a black judge in Chicago, Fox were the only ones willing to let his mom have a national voice to try to explain the difference between a "racist" and a "racialist." (Short version- there isn't a difference, unless you are one).

 

[Graybeard]

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What do you think 666 means?

I think it means exactly what the Word says it is...the number of a man

Rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

 

[wwjd_kilden]

you can do ANYTHING with numbers

you can "prove" Hitler, Osama, Lenin and Bush all were/ are the anitchrist by numbers and grids.

 

[Bob1953]

I think it means exactly what the Word says it is...the number of a man

Rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

Perhaps it’s the number of any man (or woman) who allows themselves to be tempted by Satan into prideful behavior. My Revised Standard Version of the Bible puts it a little different than the version you quoted.

 

[Harley_Angel]

Remember, not all alphabets have 26 letters. Also, I think Fox News is owned by the devil...in fact I'm 99.9 percent sure it is...lol. But yeah, you can do whatever you want with numbers. It's also like when people took the 20 dollar bills and folded them to make it look vaguely like the world trade buildings crashing and supposedly that was some sign of a conspiracy. But! I once folded a dollar bill into a paper airplane and threw it and it crashed, so that must mean that my dollar bill was showing me the future of a certain airplane that would later crash somewhere. Humans are awesome at convicning themselves of anything.

 

[Bob1953]

Remember, not all alphabets have 26 letters. Also, I think Fox News is owned by the devil...in fact I'm 99.9 percent sure it is...lol. But yeah, you can do whatever you want with numbers. It's also like when people took the 20 dollar bills and folded them to make it look vaguely like the world trade buildings crashing and supposedly that was some sign of a conspiracy. But! I once folded a dollar bill into a paper airplane and threw it and it crashed, so that must mean that my dollar bill was showing me the future of a certain airplane that would later crash somewhere. Humans are awesome at convicning themselves of anything.

But what DO you think 666 is?

 

[Graybeard]

Perhaps it’s the number of any man (or woman) who allows themselves to be tempted by Satan into prideful behavior. My Revised Standard Version of the Bible puts it a little different than the version you quoted.

in comparing the verse with 26 versions that I have, I found that 4 versions did not signify a man, does this mean the remaining 22 are correct?...no it does not, unless someone can accurately translate the words of Rev 13:18 we may not be sure.

 

[Cup-of-Ruin]

Perhaps it’s the number of any man (or woman) who allows themselves to be tempted by Satan into prideful behavior. My Revised Standard Version of the Bible puts it a little different than the version you quoted.

Bob, you are quite right, it is the number of any man, 6 is the number of man in biblical numerology, 6 is the number for secular human achievement or perfection, 666 is the trinity of human perfection, the final end result of human pride and rejection of God and His Christ is represented by the number 666! The number however is to be computed, to reckon or calculate it, this number is not just revealed by gematria, 666 is the symbol or mark that can be calculated into rebellion against God by humanity under Satanic guidence, i.e. Nebuchadnezzar, whose image which he set up was 60 cubits high 6 cubits broad and which was worshipped when the music was heard from 6 specific instruments. Goliath whose height was 6 cubits, and he had 6 pieces of armour and his spear weighed 600 sheckels of iron. The duration of the old Assyrian empire was 666 years before it was conquered by Babylon. We also see Solomon perfects money-power of 666 talents in a year, but was only 'vainity and vexation of the spirit'...

 

[Carpe_diem]

This is a great question and one I pray stirs, even shakes the hearts of His people to want to know and understand The Truth for themselves.

Mat 23:3All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe,thatobserve and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.

Bob, are you actually asking and seeking for yourself? If so, "knock" and the door will be opened to you. Matthew 7:7-8

What do the thoughts and opinions of man matter to the all knowing God? Isaiah 55: 6-11 He tells plainly in Revelation what the number is...do not be deceived. The foundation or root of this number for all man begins with the tree of knowledge (mind) of good and evil. For those who genuinely seek the Father not man (666) for the answers, He will tell in His appointed time. When we want the truth, wouldn't we ask THE TRUTH?

There are many powerful surprises in the book of Revelation but all must be spiritually discerned...1Co 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

Abiding In The Vine,
Carpe_diem

 

[MahogonySnail]

I believe one of the versions contained the phrase “sum of the digits,” or some such thing, and it got me to thinking. There are twenty-six letters in the alphabet. In that range, three numbers have digits that add up to 6: 6, 15 (1+5=6), and 24 (2+4=6). The sixth letter is “F.” The fifteenth is “O.” The twenty-fourth is “X.” Put them together and you’ve got “FOX.” Certainly Satan is much like a fox, as he tricks us into doing what is wrong. Read these:

How do you know it's not XOF,, OXF.

Try it again in the hebrew and you'll get the original intention of the author.

 

[Bob1953]

How do you know it's not XOF,, OXF.

Try it again in the hebrew and you'll get the original intention of the author.

Maybe the original intention is no longer important.

 

[EnochxGenesis]

An extremely long time ago, back when I was about the same age as many of you, I was looking at a couple of versions of the Bible, including my Mother’s New English version, as I studied this verse:

This calls for wisdom: let him who has understanding reckon the number of the beast, for it is a human number, its number is six hundred and sixty-six. Revelation 13:18 RSV

I believe one of the versions contained the phrase “sum of the digits,” or some such thing, and it got me to thinking. There are twenty-six letters in the alphabet. In that range, three numbers have digits that add up to 6: 6, 15 (1+5=6), and 24 (2+4=6). The sixth letter is “F.” The fifteenth is “O.” The twenty-fourth is “X.” Put them together and you’ve got “FOX.” Certainly Satan is much like a fox, as he tricks us into doing what is wrong. Read these:

Now the serpent was more subtle than any other wild creature that the LORD God had made…. Genesis 3:1
Then the LORD God said to the woman, "What is this that you have done?" The woman said, "The serpent beguiled me, and I ate." Genesis 3:13

What do you think 666 means?

The term 666 which is actually 616 is regarding the emperor Nero, who watched as Greece burned to the ground.

 

[Cup-of-Ruin]

The term 666 which is actually 616 is regarding the emperor Nero, who watched as Greece burned to the ground.

This is incorrect, the term is indeed '666' and is number associated with many humans, 666 represents the human trinity of perfection against God, independence of God, you must calculate this number, it is reckoned according to Revelations.

 

[Harley_Angel]

The term 666 which is actually 616 is regarding the emperor Nero, who watched as Greece burned to the ground.

I'm curious how you came up with this idea. I know tone of voice doesn't come across really well on here, but I'm not being sarcastic or accusatory, I'm actually curious where this idea came from. Could you please explain to us why this belief is yours?

 

[MahogonySnail]

I'm partial to the idea of it being 616. Both 616 and 666 give credible names of roman emperors who they could apply to. It is only meant to be a numbers game, whether it is 666 or 667 or 777 it doesn't matter. It could just as easily have been 777 or 49 or a multiple of 7.

666 represents the human trinity of perfection against God

There's nothing about a human trinity of perfection in the bible.

 

[Bob1953]

I'm curious how you came up with this idea. I know tone of voice doesn't come across really well on here, but I'm not being sarcastic or accusatory, I'm actually curious where this idea came from. Could you please explain to us why this belief is yours?

The Revised Standard Version of the Bible has a footnote next to “666.” The footnote reads: Other ancient authorities read “six hundred and sixteen.”

 

[EnochxGenesis]

I'm curious how you came up with this idea. I know tone of voice doesn't come across really well on here, but I'm not being sarcastic or accusatory, I'm actually curious where this idea came from. Could you please explain to us why this belief is yours?

Roman Emperors
The hypothesis that 666 or 616 is a code for a Roman emperor seems to have historical support. The emperors were noted for their oppression of both Jews and Christians. Both communities were known to use numerology, codes and symbols (such as the Ichthys) when living under Roman rule to avoid persecution. The Greek term charagma χάραγμα ("mark" in Revelation 13:16) was most commonly used for imprints on documents or coins. Charagma is well attested to have been an imperial seal of the Roman Empire used on official documents during the first and second centuries.[23] Those who worshipped the emperor received a certificate or mark of approval – charagma (χάραγμ&#945, the same word used in Revelation 13:16. Furthermore, in the reign of Emperor Decius (AD 249-251), those who did not possess the certificate of sacrifice (libellus) to Caesar could not pursue trades, a prohibition that conceivably goes back to Nero, reminding one of Revelation 13:17.[24]
Nero


Bust of Nero at Musei Capitolini, Rome
Most Bible scholars believe that 666 refers to the Roman Emperor Nero. Nero was responsible for some especially vicious attacks on Christians in Rome. The Book of Revelation was written after Nero committed suicide, but many people thought that he had not died and had come out of hiding in the East to lead this new wave of persecution against Christians in the late first century.[2][5] The Greek spelling, “Nerōn Kaisar,” transliterates into Hebrew as “נרון קסר” or “nrvn qsr”. Adding the corresponding values yields 666, as shown:
Resh (&#1512 Samech (&#1505 Qof (&#1511 Noon (&#1504 Vav (&#1493 Resh (&#1512 Noon (&#1504 TOTAL
200 60 100 50 6 200 50 666
By contrast, the Latin title for Nero is spelled simply “Nerō Caesar,” which transliterates to “נרו קסר” or “nrv qsr” and has a value of 616, which may explain that variation.[25]
Resh(&#1512 Samech (&#1505 Qof (&#1511 Vav (&#1493 Resh (&#1512 Noon (&#1504 TOTAL
200 60 100 6 200 50 616


I hate to use wikipedia but you know, everyone else does it.

PS. every Pope name (which is given after you become pope) has added up in numerology to be six hundred and sixty six.

 

[Harley_Angel]

yeah, but what does that number specifically have to do with any one person?

Sorry, I posted that right as Enoch posted his explanation. Hey, I'm wondering, where do the values for the different letters come from? Why is Resh 200 and Samech 60 etc?

 

[MahogonySnail]

It's an ancient numbers game Harley.