How Does the Gospel save Believers?

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How Does the Gospel Save Believers? Part 1

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How Does the Gospel Save Believers? Part 1 - Desiring God

 
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Richie the Gospel does not save God does. The Gospel only TELLS us how HE SAVES... And God does SAVE PERFECTLY...
The whole GOSPEL goes around just ONE VERSE.... Matthew 5:48 is that verse.... Gospel means GOD'S WORD or GOD'S SPELL... Waht God has to say.

If you ask me sum up God's WORD in one verse... it is... Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
And the WHOLE Bible (Gospel) teaches exactly how Goddoes SAVE A SINNER! Let me just gaurentee one Truth I found in the gospel.... God does not save a sinner to be a sinner, He saves a sinner to be as PERFECT AS HE IS. Amen!

You ask how God (Gospel) saves.... God saves by givng us a NEW LIFE, BORN FROM GOD... God gives us the BIRTH FROM GOD... To be BORN OF GOD.... To have HIS SEED IN US, and that SEED WILL REMAIN IN US... And because we are BORN OF GOD, when HE SAVED us, we CANNOT sin... Then we are AS PERFECT AS OUR FATHER.... He is OUR FATHER, when we ARE BORN OF HIM.... Rebirth and the PERFECT life after that.... Right here on earth... Jesus did not say... BECOME PERFECT IN THE AFTER-LIFE... HE SAID BE PERFECT.... HERE! That is because He knew how COMPLETE HIS SALVTION WILL BE FOREVER!!!!
 
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.Not so fast Cobus...

1 John 3:2-3 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.

2 Corinthians 3:18 But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.

This change goes on unto our entrance into heaven.
 
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How Does the Gospel save Believers?
By converting them to believe the Truth 2 Thess 2:13

13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:

And the Gospel is not Christ died for everyone in the World without exception !
 

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1Corinthians 15:1-2 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the Gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;By which also you are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
It appears to be the means God has chosen to save people.


1 Corinthians 15:3-4 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
 
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Richie the Gospel does not save God does. The Gospel only TELLS us how HE SAVES...

Not so sir. We are born again because of the Word of God or the gospel abiding in our hearts.
1Pe 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
 
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1Corinthians 15:1-2 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the Gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;By which also you are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
It appears to be the means God has chosen to save people.


1 Corinthians 15:3-4 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
Good Passage, but do you understand it ?
 
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The topic is ''How Does the Gospel save Believers?''
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''do you understand it?''.
Hopefully you understand what you know and what you quote lol
 

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Hopefully you understand what you know and what you quote lol
No, I just throw out bible quotes willy nilly so others can discuss me rather than the Scriptures I cite.

1 Corinthians 1:21, 23-24 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;
But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.
 
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Ah! We are getting somewhere for the first time in a very long time... I agree! The Word of God (our Bible) is way more special than just another BOOK. It is the WORD OF GOD! It Is what God teach us HOW WE ARE SAVED. Then why do we ALL have our own way of thinking? Should we not ALL have the GOSPEL OF GOD ON OUR HEARTS?

Does God write a different Gospel to each person? Nope there is ONLY ONE GOSPEL. And there is only ONE FATHER IN ALL THOSE WHO DID WHAT THE GOSPEL TEACH!

Here is the thing.... Why do we all qoute the SAME BIBLE, but we have OPPOSITE DOCTRINES? God said that ALL Scripture is given in and is GOOD FOR FORMING OUR DOCTRINE.... ONE DOCTRINE...

Now ARE we going to argue how we are saved? And are we going to argue EVERY Statement God made in HIS GOSPEL? Or are we going to agree at least on the FINISHED PRODUCT that GOD SAVED!

If God gave the WORD (Truth), the LIFE (Spirit) and the WAY (Obedience) to save a sinner, why is it we argue what God save that sinner too? We not only argue HOW HE SAVES, but ALSO WHERE TOO He saves.

We know the Word was God and with God and the WORD BECAME FLESH and lived amongst us, and We say that this WORD is what saves us. Then why do we not AGREE that the WORD saves us to BE WORD! To BE TRUTH, To BE SPIRIT, TO BE ONE WITH GOD?

Look at this... Just look at all THE ONE IN THIS GOSPEL..... Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.
Eph 4:4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
Eph 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism, Eph 4:6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

Why are we not even in the UNITY of THE SPIRIT? Is there a BOND of peace here on CC? WOW! And we are the DEVOTED ones? We are the ONES in whom ONE FAITH AND ONE FATHER GOD SHOULD BE... Then why 1000 doctrines?

Let us at least get ONE GOAL AND START FROM THERE.... Can we make our Goal what GOD said the GOAL IS? God's goal for EVERY person here on CC is ONE GOAL.... THE HIGH CALLING IN CHRIST JESUS!

The goal of God for us is.... I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.

Can we all PRESS TOWARD THE MARK.... The HIGH CALLING OF GOD IN CHRIST JESUS! PLEASE!

At least where-ever we may be now, can we STOP looking back and FOCUS on the MARK FOR THE PRIZE.... Is a PRAZE A GIFT or is it a PRIZE....

I think we ALL know we are CALLED of GOD to BE IN CHRIST JESUS! I wonder if you ever thought about how it would BE LIKE IN CHRIST JESUS!

Do it right now.... Try and think what it would be like, IF GOD PUTS YOU IN CHRIST JESUS RIGHT NOW... First think of how holy Christ Jesus is.... imagine being SURROUNDED, FILLED and SATURATED with that HOLINESS of GOD HIMSELF!

Do it again.... THINK how HOLY Christ Jesus is.... Do you know how HOLY HE IS? HOW GLORIOUS.... Now Imagine GOD PUTS you IN that glory and holiness. God takes that holiness and PUTS IT ABOVE, THROUGH and IN YOU... Just how ONE will you be with HIM?

Now if GOD puts that in ALL of us, will we be PERFECTLY ONE? Will there be a single Scripture that we will not agree on 100%? Nope... IN GOD'S CHURCH (The Body of CHRIST JESUS) there is NO STRIFE.... Look why! Because God (His Gospel, His Word) has PERFECTED EVERY MEMBER ... TO BE AS PERFECT AS HE IS... If there is ONE member that is not perfect, God's WHOLE BODY OFCHRIST, will be contaminated and IMPERFECT!...

The rest of Eph 4 says this...For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
Eph 4:13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
Eph 4:14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
Eph 4:15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:
Eph 4:16 From whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplieth, according to the effectual working in the measure of every part, maketh increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in love.

What you say? Shall we ask God to also fit us together and compact us to be joint and have us work in our messure to the edifying of ourselves in love... So that we may be IN CHRIST JESUS? That is the ONLY PLACE where God is the HEAD! And then when we DO believe the Gospel AS HE GAVE IT, then we will not be tossed to and fro!

Crossnote knows how STRONG I stand in the doctrine of PERFECTION... because I did not say you should be perfect and IN CHRIST.... God said that! Why do you see me as a hopeless case when I BELIEVE GOD MAKES A MAN PERFECT BEFORE HE JOIN THEM TOGETHER IN THE BODY OF CHRIST! God CANNOT allow a sinner in, there IS NO SIN IN HIM... And if God allows a sinner in, there is sin in HIM... That will make God a lier....

It is very clearly stated in Eph 4, that not even SAINTS are one with God's BODY IN CHRIST, YET... they need to be perfected first... Saints are ALREADY people that does not do sin... If God calls a person a saint... From HAGIOS (Greek) that person already do not sin! And then god says... FOR THE PERFECTING OF THE SAINTS... WOW!!! Perfect a sinless person... Is that FALSE TEACHING? Or is it the TRUE GOSPEL?
 
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Sorry I meant to ask... Is a prize a gift or a reward like in PRIZE....
 
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Its love that saves, all yer need is love , love conquersrs all, love can be found everywhere in the gospel And so can Words of wisdom, words of conviction, words of war its all there, but yer put love in all those words your free,
Love love love , do de doooo.

Love is all you need, put on the apron of humility and be humble grateful im of for a race byeeeeeee have a Nice day all:)
 
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Sorry I meant to ask... Is a prize a gift or a reward like in PRIZE....
Hi Cobus,

I think that the prize is the grace that He is given us. See Romans 3:24:

Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

Grace means that He is given us something that we do not deserve. Because of His son Jesus it is possible that the Lord give us His grace, otherwise we had to pay Him the full load of the law, and that isn't possible. So it is grace that the gospel come to us, and it is grace that there are people who may spread out the gospel.
 
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In the beginning was the WORD, Who is the WORD? Jesus Right? and what the gospel about? Jesus right? and what does Jesus Do? He saves. So the gospel does save believers. I noticed a few people here was too quick, and read the thread wrong in result of it. The question is How does the gospel save believers.
 

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The Gospel is the promise of God of a free gift...eternal life to those who look to His crucified son for the forgiveness of sin.
It was exemplified by the promise of healing to those who were snake bitten in Numbers to look to the bronze serpent lifted up on a pole.
 
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Grace! Grace is a gift, but is SALVATION earned? Ok! Let us see... Can I be a disiple of Jesus, who will LEAD me to the NEW LIFE IN CHRIST, if I DO NOT TAKE UP MY CROSS AND FOLLOW HIM?

Do I have to TAKE UP A CROSS? That sounds like there is NO GIFT in this part... Or is the CROSS the gift, and I HAVE TO CARRY THE GIFT?... So I DO HAVE TO DO SOMETHING... no MATTER how you look at it, GRACE is given, but GRACE WILL NOT SAVE YOU IF YOU SIT ON YOUR LOWERS.....

And here is another thing... IF HE LEADS AND I FOLLOW, WE ARE NOT ONE? IF I AM IN HIM and HE IN ME THEN WE ARE ONE! So HE ONLY BECOMES ONE WITH ME WHEN I REACH WHERE HE LEADS!!! If I DO NOT FOLLOW ALL THE WAY, I might have LEFT THE CROSS (GRACE) RIGHT WHERE THE GOSPEL TOLD ME ABOUT GRACE... GOSPEL ONLY SAVES THE ONES THAT OBEY GOSPEL...

GRACE CANNOT SAVE aperson that DOES NOT OBEY GRACE... Grace IS GOD's WAY TO SAVE.

And full marks for the OP... The word of GOd IS THE ONLY TRUTH we have TO FALL BACK ON.... This Word of God is so much more GOD that people that wants to discredit HIM.... I CANNOT find ONE unreliable Scripture in God's Word. the Word of God makes me GODLY WISE, and WORLDLY STUPID....

The Gospel saves by OBEDIENCE TO WHAT YOU READ! ....

Paul said.... in Romans 1, the OBEDIENCE TO THE FAITH IS ALSO A GIFT OF GOD.... So looks like SALVATION IS UP TO GOD and GOD ALONE!.... If even the OBEDIENCE to the FAITH (Gospel) is a GIFT, then SALVATION IN A WHOLE IS A GIFT... May I also get such a gift.... Amen!

What we need to do is find out what does a person look like that HAS THAT GIFT... Do they ACTUALLY and BODILY ARE MADE IN THE IMAGE OF CHRIST JESUS? Does the GOSPEL teach that a saved person is in the FULNESS OF THE STATURE OF CHRIST JESUS HIMSELF? WOW! If that is so, WHO IS SAVED HERE?
 
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Rom 1:16-17
For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek.
For in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith to faith; as it is written, “BUT THE RIGHTEOUS man SHALL LIVE BY FAITH.”

God imbued the Gospel with His power for salvation!
That's how the Gospel saves. :)

 

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Grace! Grace is a gift, but is SALVATION earned? Ok! Let us see... Can I be a disiple of Jesus, who will LEAD me to the NEW LIFE IN CHRIST, if I DO NOT TAKE UP MY CROSS AND FOLLOW HIM?

Do I have to TAKE UP A CROSS? That sounds like there is NO GIFT in this part... Or is the CROSS the gift, and I HAVE TO CARRY THE GIFT?... So I DO HAVE TO DO SOMETHING... no MATTER how you look at it, GRACE is given, but GRACE WILL NOT SAVE YOU IF YOU SIT ON YOUR LOWERS.....

And here is another thing... IF HE LEADS AND I FOLLOW, WE ARE NOT ONE? IF I AM IN HIM and HE IN ME THEN WE ARE ONE! So HE ONLY BECOMES ONE WITH ME WHEN I REACH WHERE HE LEADS!!! If I DO NOT FOLLOW ALL THE WAY, I might have LEFT THE CROSS (GRACE) RIGHT WHERE THE GOSPEL TOLD ME ABOUT GRACE... GOSPEL ONLY SAVES THE ONES THAT OBEY GOSPEL...

GRACE CANNOT SAVE aperson that DOES NOT OBEY GRACE... Grace IS GOD's WAY TO SAVE.

And full marks for the OP... The word of GOd IS THE ONLY TRUTH we have TO FALL BACK ON.... This Word of God is so much more GOD that people that wants to discredit HIM.... I CANNOT find ONE unreliable Scripture in God's Word. the Word of God makes me GODLY WISE, and WORLDLY STUPID....

The Gospel saves by OBEDIENCE TO WHAT YOU READ! ....

Paul said.... in Romans 1, the OBEDIENCE TO THE FAITH IS ALSO A GIFT OF GOD.... So looks like SALVATION IS UP TO GOD and GOD ALONE!.... If even the OBEDIENCE to the FAITH (Gospel) is a GIFT, then SALVATION IN A WHOLE IS A GIFT... May I also get such a gift.... Amen!

What we need to do is find out what does a person look like that HAS THAT GIFT... Do they ACTUALLY and BODILY ARE MADE IN THE IMAGE OF CHRIST JESUS? Does the GOSPEL teach that a saved person is in the FULNESS OF THE STATURE OF CHRIST JESUS HIMSELF? WOW! If that is so, WHO IS SAVED HERE?
So what are you saying? Do we earn salvation, yes or no? ...in three sentences or less.
 
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God earns it in us! God saves us we do NOT save ourselves, that is why SALVATION IS PERFECT! ALL IN ONE SENTANCE!