Hebrews 6

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vanillakay

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Hebrews 6: 4-6

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For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit,
5 and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6 if they fall away,[b] to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame.



Can anyone explain this verse to me please?...it sounds like if we are saved but then fall away, that we cannot come back? how can this be? it seems to contradict everything Jesus said and died for
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It does seem to be a contradiction, but that is only an apparent one due to a missing context. The writer of this letter wrote to fellow Hebrews admonishing them to not abandon their faith in Christ's sacrifice (do to persecutions and hardships) and revert back to putting their trust in the old system of animal sacrifices that was still operational at that time. For in so doing they would be trusting in something that could never take away sin, and as a result would have no more sacrifice for sin. In effect, they would be denying the lord in a major way.

Paul said in another place that if we deny the lord, he will deny us. And Christ himself said that those who are ashamed of him in this age, he will be ashamed of them in the next.

So it is not referring to backsliding (as it is called today) due to unfaithfulness, but open denial of the lord.

The saying is trustworthy: ​For if we died with him, we will also live with him; if we endure, we will also reign with him; if we deny him, he also will deny us; if we are unfaithful, he remains faithful, because he cannot deny himself. 2 Timothy 2:11-13​
 
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do we also beleive that there are wheat and tares - People who appear to know Christ, and then defect, or stay and never leave
 

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The writer describes both the prior and latter states of those who had fallen away.

A. Their prior state - These had:
1. Been enlightened.
2. Had tasted the heavenly gift. (The word for tasted is γευσαμένους which means to experience. This is the same word that is used in 2:9 saying, Jesus "tasted" death for everyone. This is not a mere limited sampling, this is an embracing of the full experience.
3. Been made partakers of the Holy Spirit. These has received the indwelling of the Holy Spirit who serves as the Christian's seal of divine ownership.
4. Tasted the good word of God.


B. Present state - They have "fallen away." From what then have they fallen?
1. An enlightened state.
2. The experience of the heavenly gift.
3. The partaking or sharing of the Holy Spirit.
4. The good word of God.
5. They have crucified Christ all over again. Like those of 10:26-31, these have "trampled under foot the Son of God and regarded as unclean the blood of the covenant by which he WAS sanctified" (passed tense). In other words these now regard the blood that had once sanctified them as nothing more than the proverbial hog slaughtered on the altar.


C. The impossible dilemma - It is now impossible to renew them again to repentance. Why? Because they have fallen away from the very thing that brought them to repentance in the first place which was the word of God. It is now impossible to restore them to repentance. One cannot be RE-newed AGAIN to a state they have never occupied. Thus, having once been saved and then having fallen away, they cannot be brought back because they will no longer repent. This is of course representing the extreme case. D. Their fate. Like the ground that yields thistles and thorns, they are cursed and they end up being burned. Just like those of 10:26-31, whose fate is to fall into the hands of a vengeful God who says, "I will repay." The parabolic illustration come out of Matthew 13:20-21, Mark 4:16-17, and Luke 8:13. They are worthless to the purposes of God and God discards them.

1. The writer is not saying they claimed to have tasted, but presents a statement of fact - "They had tasted." They had returned to the law. These had previously left the law in response to the gospel. Now, they are rejecting the cross and going back to the law. This is the foundation they were "laying again."
2. This is not a question. There is no "if" in the Greek. It simply says, παραπεσόντας - literally "having fallen away". This is a statement of fact based on actual cases, not a what if scenario. This is an aorist, passive, accusative verb. They had fallen away at some time in the past and that condition continues. They are still fallen away.
3. Under the law, sin was not forgiven based on those sacrifices, but based on what those sacrifices represented - the cross. Leviticus chapters 4 and 5 show us that they were indeed forgiven under the law but, it was not by the law. Even David understood this. "How blessed is the man whose transgression is forgiven, whose sins are covered...to whom the Lord does not impute iniquity," Psalms 32:1-2. He also knew those sacrifices were not the avenue through which forgiveness came. "Thou dost not delight in sacrifice or I would bring it." Psalms 51:
1-2.
4. The inability to renew again is not linked to a supposition of "IF" they were to fall away. The impossibility is linked to the fact that after having been saved they have rejected the cross, not the old sacrifices, and in so doing had shamed Christ openly.
5. The writer does not say they cannot be saved again. He says that cannot be brought back to repentance again. This certainly renders them unable to remain saved since there is no longer repentance. These had once been in a saved relationship. Now that relationship has been severed; not by Christ but by them.
6. He is not comparing the crucifying of Christ again to the repetitious offering of O.T. sacrifice. Those who had rejected and fallen away were considering Christ worthy of the crucifixion. They were rejecting him and his sacrifice. Like those of 10:29, they were considering the blood of Christ "BY WHICH THEY HAD BEEN SANCTIFIED" an unclean thing, and had insulted the Spirit of grace.
7. The writer's point is that these had been sanctified - made holy - something that all of the sacrifices of the O.T. combined could never do. In verse 29, he even draws a contrast between the one's of whom he is speaking and those who died under the law for rejecting Moses. They rejected the blood after having been cleansed by it are now worthy of greater punishment than those who were under the Law. Verse 30 shows their fate.
 
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vanillakay

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I appreciate everyone's answers...lol. But i am still somewhat confused on the matter. I mainly need to know if it's true?. If we get saved and then fall away, aka, resort to our old ways...is that really it? we cannot come back to God?...because again..does'nt seem to make any sense and if its true all of us are doomed, because we cannot be perfect. OR was this referring to time before Jesus?
 
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I appreciate everyone's answers...lol. But i am still somewhat confused on the matter. I mainly need to know if it's true?. If we get saved and then fall away, aka, resort to our old ways...is that really it? we cannot come back to God?...because again..does'nt seem to make any sense and if its true all of us are doomed, because we cannot be perfect. OR was this referring to time before Jesus?
Christ is our perfection
Do you believe that God saves people? That He keeps His sheep, that He who began a good work will finish it until the day of Christ. Hebrews is written to Jews - who consistently struggled with freedom in Christ by faith. The whole book is about how Christ is better than, angels, Moses, the Law, The High Priest etc. Think about the context of the chapter to the Book, and the book to the NT and all of Scripture - Ask, keep asking, God to reveal by His Holy Spirit - bank on it, He will
 
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I appreciate everyone's answers...lol. But i am still somewhat confused on the matter. I mainly need to know if it's true?. If we get saved and then fall away, aka, resort to our old ways...is that really it? we cannot come back to God?...because again..does'nt seem to make any sense and if its true all of us are doomed, because we cannot be perfect. OR was this referring to time before Jesus?
Yes, you can come back to GOD. If it is in your heart to do so, do so. He will receive you. He is a merciful GOD. The Hebrews writer is talking about people who experience Christ and then decide that they don't want anything to do with him; not those who sin.
 
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There is always a problem understanding the letters Paul wrote when we read them as if Paul is writing to us, personally, in 2013. Hebrews is writing to mostly Jews in the first years of the church. They were under persecution, and they were being told to grow in Christ.

The entire book is pointing out that they were given truths of God before, but understanding Christ's crucifixion and what it did for them was absolutely necessary for them, now. It was salvation and growth.

It is true that they were given eternal truths that apply to us today, we need to learn from these letters and apply those truths to our 2013 lives, but to truly understand we also need to learn what problems they were addressing at the time.
 
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From what I heard, this scripture isn't about losing your salvation by disbelief or apostasy. In this book, it was written to former Jewish audience. See he is not saying one can lose his salvation, but that the folly and foolishness of some that think they can go back to Judaism without suffering loss. It would be publicly putting Christ to shame if he would try to come back. You're saved or you're saved and stand saved. It's not good to serve and go back to an old lifestyle while claiming to be a Christian, that might in fact defile your consciousness. As far as I know, the author isn't talking directly at the reader, he is writing for his reader's sake. But there is no sin that cannot be forgiven. See for man, it is impossible to come back, but all things are possible with God. He always draws us back. This context might be referring to people that don't care about a division of Old life and New life, after they have been saved.
 
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We must understand that it is IMPOSSIBLE for those who have tasted of this truth to do so.
 

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Yahshua's blood is not a free ticket to sin, it is a cleansing and reconciliation to Yahweh, in which we then turn in obedience to Him, not to our will, the will of the flesh, Judaisim (Talmud), the crurch down the street, RCC, etc, but to the will of Yahweh.

1 Corinthians 9:24-27, "Do you not know that those who run in a race all compete, but only one receives the prize? So run your race that you may lay hold of the prize, and make it yours. And everyone who competes conducts himself temperately in all things. Now they compete to obtain a perishable crown; but we for an imperishable crown. Therefore, I do not run like a man running aimlessly; I do not fight like a man who beats the air. No, I discipline my body and bring it into subjection, so that after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified."

1 Corinthians 4:4-5, "For I know nothing by myself; yet by this I am not justified, for He Who judges me is Yahweh! Therefore, judge nothing before the time. Wait until Yahshua comes, Who will bring to light the things hidden in darkness, and will reveal the secret intentions of men's hearts; and then each man will receive praise from Yahweh."

Mattithyah 16:27, “For the Son of Man will come in the glory of His Father with His Malakim; and then He will reward every man according to his works.”

2 Kepha :2:20-22, "Now if, after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of Yahweh and the Savior Yahshua Messiah, they are again entangled in them, and overcome by them, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. For it would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy Laws (some say divine commands) delivered to them. There has befallen them the thing spoken of in the true proverb: A dog returns to his own vomit, and: A sow is washed, only to wallow again in the mire."

Yahchanan (John) 5:28-30, “Do not be astonished at this-for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear His voice, and will come forth. Those who have practiced righteousness will be resurrected in order to live; and those who have practiced wickedness will be resurrected in order to be damned."

Acts 17:30-31, “In the past Yahweh winked at such ignorance, but now He commands all men everywhere to repent! For He has appointed a day in which He will judge the world in righteousness, by a Man whom He has ordained; and He has given evidence to everyone by raising Him from the dead.”

Romans 2:4-11, “Or do you despise the riches of His kindness, forbearance, and longsuffering; not realizing that Yahweh’s kindness is meant to lead you to repentance? But according to your stubborn and impenitent mind you are storing up wrath for yourself for the day of Yahweh’s wrath, when the righteous judgment of Yahweh will be revealed; when He will reward each one according to his works: to the ones on the one hand, who, by patient persistence in doing righteousness, seek for glory, honor and immortality, He will give eternal life. But to the ones on the other hand, who are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, He will give indignation and wrath.” Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man who does evil: to the Yahdai(Jew) first, and also to the Greek (Gentile) But glory, honor, and peace to every man who works righteousness: to the Yahdai first, and also to the Greek. For there is no respect of persons with Yahweh.”

2 Corinthians 5:10, “For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Messiah, that each one may receive his reward according to what he has done in the body, whether righteous or evil.”

Colossians 3:24-25, “Knowing that from Yahweh you will receive the reward of the inheritance; for you serve Yahshua the Messiah. But he who does wrong will receive the reward for the wrong he has done, and there is no respect of persons.”

1 Kepha (Peter) 1:17-18, “And if you call on the Father, Who without respect of persons judges according to each man’s work, conduct yourselves throughout the time of your sojourning here in reverence. Knowing that you were not redeemed with corruptible things, such as silver or gold, from your idolatrous way of life handed down to you by tradition from your fathers.”

Mattithyah 15:3, “But Yahshua answered, and said to them: and why do you transgress the Laws of Yahweh by your traditions?”

Revelation 20:12-13, “And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before Yahweh. And the books were opened; and another book was opened, which is the Book of Life. And the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and Death and Sheol delivered up the dead which were in them. And they were judged, every man, according to their works.”

Revelation 22:12, “And behold, I come quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give every man according as his work will be.”

Yaaqob (James) 2:26, “For just as the body without the spirit is dead, so the faith without works is dead also.”

2 Timothy 4:3-4, “For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but after their own lusts they will heap to themselves teachers, who will tickle their ears, and they will turn away their ears from the truth, and be turned to fables.”

Hebrews 10:26-30
"For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, But a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries. Those who rejected the Law given through Mosheh died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. How much more severely do you think a man deserves to be punished, who has trampled the Son of Yahweh underfoot, and has counted the blood of the covenant (with which He was sanctified) an unholy thing, and who has insulted the Spirit of mercy? For we know Him Who has said: Vengeance is Mine; I will repay, says Yahweh. And again: Yahweh will judge His people."

Romans 3:25, "Whom Yahweh set forth as a sacrifice of atonement by His own blood, through the faith, to declare His righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of Yahweh."

Hebrews 6:3-6, "If indeed Yahweh permits, we will now proceed to advanced teaching. For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, And the righteous, having come to know that which is spoken by Yahweh through the Law and the Prophets, the power of Yahweh, and the world to come, If they shall fall away, it is impossible for them to be renewed to repentance again. They have rejected the Son of Yahweh, and therefore are alienated from Yahweh."

Psalm 69:27-28, "Add iniquity to their iniquity! Let them not come into Your righteousness! May they be blotted out of The Book of Life, and not be written with the righteous!"

Revelation 3:5, "He who overcomes, the same will be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name from The Book of Life, but I will confess his name before My Father and before His malakim."

Yaaqob 2:19-22, "You believe that there is done Father? You do well; the demons also believe, and tremble. But are you willing to know, O vain man, that the faith without works is dead? Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? Do you see that the faith worked together with his works, and by works the faith makes perfect?"
 

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I appreciate everyone's answers...lol. But i am still somewhat confused on the matter. I mainly need to know if it's true?. If we get saved and then fall away, aka, resort to our old ways...is that really it? we cannot come back to God?...because again..does'nt seem to make any sense and if its true all of us are doomed, because we cannot be perfect. OR was this referring to time before Jesus?
IMO its not about after having recieved the blood of Yahshua and having sinned, because we are tolf here what to do if we sin post accepting:

1 yahchanan (John) 1:8-9, "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness."

But its about a complete falling away, think about it, if one knew Yahshua and those made the choice to forsake Him, it wouldnt be a chioce made lightly, it would be a serious choice, and im not talking about the one day a week "worshipper" but one who really knows Yahshua, if they choose to go theor own way they arent turning back.
 

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No man IN THIS WORLD is perfect............IF we slip and sin, AND we are faithful to acknowledge our sin, and confess that sin, and ask His forgiveness, He IS faithful to forgive us...........

The DANGER is in the UNREPENTED SIN.

That should answer your question.
 

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Please read Heb 6 in the context of the end of ch. 5 which has the author lamenting that his readers were immature and not progressing in their understanding. In this context the author writes that one can "fall away" from progressing in the faith. If I, as a believer, choose to reject my heavenly blessings, I can't be renewed to repentance without a chastening from God, without some sort of fiery burning that can bring about renewal. Farmers burn their fields not to never use them again, but precisely so they will be useful again. Remember the verse where Jesus said "with God all things are possible" Mk 10:27.

Why is it impossible from a human standpoint? Because there is no other way, there is no other truth. I personally know a few Christians who have "fallen away" from fellowship with God, I've done it myself. It's impossible to say, "Partake of the heavenly gift, enjoy the Holy Spirit, have faith again" without there being a major change in their heart, usually as a result of God lovingly disciplining them to bring them back to renewal with Him. In this way they can have "full assurance of hope until the end" (6:11)
 
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I appreciate everyone's answers...lol. But i am still somewhat confused on the matter. I mainly need to know if it's true?. If we get saved and then fall away, aka, resort to our old ways...is that really it? we cannot come back to God?...because again..does'nt seem to make any sense and if its true all of us are doomed, because we cannot be perfect. OR was this referring to time before Jesus?

Hi vanillakay,

What are the "old ways" that we should not fall back in to?

It's unbelief in Jesus. This is the sin the world is convicted of, John 16:9.

Note Heb 6:1 for context.
Therefore, leaving the discussion of the elementary principles of Christ, let us go on to perfection, not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God,

When we received Christ we repented of our dead works of self-righteousness.
In believing on Jesus our faith is counted for righteousness, Rom 4:5.
Our works of believing in Jesus (John 6:29) are the works that shows our faith.

But, if a believer "who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come," falls away into unbelief through seeking to establish their own righteousness through deeds of the law (dead works), then Heb 6:4 says it's impossible to be renewed unto repentance.

As believers we're fighting the good fight of faith.
1Tim 6:12-14
Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life, to which you were also called and have confessed the good confession (confess Jesus, Rom 10:9) in the presence of many witnesses. I urge you in the sight of God who gives life to all things, and before Christ Jesus who witnessed the good confession before Pontius Pilate, that you keep this commandment (to believe on Jesus) without spot, blameless until our Lord Jesus Christ’s appearing,

Paul did this.
2Tim 4:7,8
I have fought the good fight, I have finished the race, I have kept the faith. Finally, there is laid up for me the crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous Judge, will give to me on that Day, and not to me only but also to all who have loved His appearing.

God's will is that we believe on Jesus.
John 6:40
And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day.

Continue to obey God's will/commandment to believe on Jesus, without spot, blameless. Thus your faith is counted for righteousness, Rom 4:5.
 
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There is always a problem understanding the letters Paul wrote when we read them as if Paul is writing to us, personally, in 2013.
Not so fast, RedTent.

I know you love the verse in 2 Peter 3 to discount in some way what's contained in the Pauline epistles, but we have no definitive writer of Hebrews.
He's simply not identified, whereas every epistle of Paul begins with his name.
 
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Yes, you can come back to GOD. If it is in your heart to do so, do so. He will receive you. He is a merciful GOD. The Hebrews writer is talking about people who experience Christ and then decide that they don't want anything to do with him; not those who sin.
This sounds like man is sovereign, he is not God is -- If you were God's child, your coming back - He who began a good work, will continue it - God may allow cancer, the death of a loved one, a debilitating disease, or might allow you to die to be judged quickly. God is relentlessly jealous for His children - if that person never has even a conviction or desire - he never had salvation - I don't know what he had, but it wasn't it
http://www.ntslibrary.com/PDF%20Books/Repentance%20by%20T%20Watson.pdf

there is a lot of counterfeit repentance, Faith played out is repentance
 
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Hebrews 6: 4-6

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For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit,
5 and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6 if they fall away,[b] to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame.



Can anyone explain this verse to me please?...it sounds like if we are saved but then fall away, that we cannot come back? how can this be? it seems to contradict everything Jesus said and died for
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Hebrews 6:2 "Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment."
( parts taken from a study by Roger Christopherson )

Notice here that the "doctrine of baptisms" is plural. These are the four most taught subjects in most all churches today. Paul is saying once your baptized, you are baptized so move on to something deeper. Once you have been anointed of God as a Christian, accept it as a fact, and move on to deeper things. "Resurrection of the dead", to a Christian is common knowledge and you don't have to be taught such again and again, for it is accepted as fact. We are not saying that you move to better things, for this is the foundation that you start with, but do not spend all your life studying only the milk of the Word. You know that there is an eternal judgment that judgment comes after the Millennium age, where all mankind will answer for the things they have chosen to do in their flesh life, and for the unsaved of this earth age, it will be by their works done in the Millennium age of Christ's kingdom.




Hebrews 6:5 "And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,

This has to do with those people that know the depth of the entire Word of God .They have a very good grasp and understanding of the Bible from Genesis to Revelation. They known the overall plan of God.
When Holy Spirit has enlightened them to the truths of God's Word.

The "powers of the world to come" is the world age that is coming very shortly, the Millennium age.

Hebrews 6:6 "If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put Him to an open shame."


If all it taught is salvation and baptism and the entire group that is hearing this has already accepted Christ and tasted of the Word and has been saved once, then you are putting our Lord's sacrifice to shame.. Repentance of when we sin is one thing, but Not being able to move pass the foundations and into Gods word is a shame.

It's okay to touch upon the basics for people who have not accepted Christ, but those who have, have to be careful, we have to move away from learning things they we know, like Salvation and baptism; when having already accepted Christ & been baptized. So we ,must move on into the meat of God's Words. That is what is being drawn out here by Paul.

We'll always slip up an sin in life most likely. Then we will also need to repent to the Father in Jesus name after we see we have sinned. The freedom that we have in Christ lets us repent as our sins come to our attention, and not be tied to the guilt of those sins. Christ is able to wipe those sins away..[/size]
 
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Hardly. It does however mean that people have to learn to become more in Christ.

You see it works like this. Any sin against the flesh, done in the flesh (and therefore being against flesh) is directed against Christ to which the penalty of this is death. But for all mankind this penalty and punishment was paid for by Christ Jesus who took the payment for this on Himself.

However He strictly mentioned the following that any who sins against the Holy Spirit (sinning in the spirit against God) would still be held accountable for that sin, and that sin is not forgiven them as it is done not against the flesh but the spirit. And even though we were fully restored (spirit, flesh, and soul) if we were to sin in the spiritual it would not be forgiven us.

It is in this that Jesus said seek ye first the Kingdom of God and His Rightiousness in Matthew and In John 3 mentioned that one would be able to enter and see the Kingdom of God. But people out of their own fear and beliefs avoid living in the fullness which Jesus intended for us to live. So most people cover that up. That way NO ONE would commit the sin against the spirit. However also true no one would enter the Kingdom of God. Frightening as it may sound.

Those who partake of the Heavenly gift of the HOLY SPIRIT and actually walk in the spirit can never deny God as is written in 1 Cor 12. However if they were to do so...and turn there backs on God in the spirit and sin against Him, would be almost impossible.
 

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The "powers of the world to come" is the world age that is coming very shortly, the Millennium age.
no it isn't.
this is the mistake/error of the unbelievers in Christ's day - they did not understand the world to come as eternity.
the jewish understanding of the world to come is a complex of the Messianic Age.

that started 2000 years ago and ends when Jesus returns and brings in the world to come - eternity.

if you were (are) an unbeliever in Christ - you're still waiting for The Messianic Age (this world) TO START.


This "world to come," in its future aspect, thus corresponds to "resurrection of the dead and eternal life" (Heb 6:2), the first Christian principles which the Hebrew believers had been taught, by the Christian light being thrown back on their Old Testament for their instruction (see on [2554]Heb 6:1,2). "The world to come," which, as to its "powers," exists already in the redeemed, will pass into a fully realized fact at Christ's coming (Col 3:4). - JFBBC

Mark 10:30
29 Jesus said, "Truly I say to you, there is no one who has left house or brothers or sisters or mother or father or children or farms, for My sake and for the gospel's sake, 30 but that he will receive a hundred times as much now in the present age, houses and brothers and sisters and mothers and children and farms, along with persecutions; and in the age to come, eternal life.
 
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