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I don't think they are better today. I believe we have more false prophets in the
pulpit, misleading the people. People are like sheep. They need a Shepherd who knows
what he is doing. I believe too many get their info off the Internet, then take it to
the people. When a man of God will take the Word and study it for his sermon, he
is feeding His people. Christ will be judging one day, when some stand before Him,
and He says, "Away with you, I knew you not." To know Him is to spend time with
Him. To feed on His Word. He thinks of others before himself. May our Pastors of
today be mature and aware how important it is to be Christs representative and
Shepherd of His sheep.
pulpit, misleading the people. People are like sheep. They need a Shepherd who knows
what he is doing. I believe too many get their info off the Internet, then take it to
the people. When a man of God will take the Word and study it for his sermon, he
is feeding His people. Christ will be judging one day, when some stand before Him,
and He says, "Away with you, I knew you not." To know Him is to spend time with
Him. To feed on His Word. He thinks of others before himself. May our Pastors of
today be mature and aware how important it is to be Christs representative and
Shepherd of His sheep.
Nothing is new under the sun; for the most part, there is always good and bad in all people.
For thousands of years GOD Almighty taught the people how He needed to be worshipped and honored; this all boiled down to being, both serious and truthful when communicating with Him. No point in lying anyways, because He Knows.
This was done on a group/church and family level until the time of Christ.
Because of the constant obedience and dis-obedience of the leaders,(family leaders as well) causing GOD Almighty's wrath to fall upon the whole house of Israel, He took mercy upon those that were trying to be just that, being sincere and honest with Him.
So He sent His Son Christ to rip the veil of the tabernacle, (the entrance to the Holy of Holies) from top to bottom.
Why? Because quite frankly He doesn't want to hear from anybody that doesn't want to be sincere and truthful to Him.
Christ taught The New Way (Testament) of how to do just that, nailing approx. 600 laws of statutes and ordinances to the cross, (NOT THE Commandments of The Law) so that each and everyone of us can walk through that veil, IF one does it the way that Christ taught, not some human.
Whenever I bring up the subject of The Holy of Holies; I always forewarn, do it Christ's way; and a little heads up, He doesn't like too many I's, beyond, I Love You, I Miss You, and I Thank-You Father.
Any issues? ask Christ anytime, no formality's required. Christ is there for us 24/7/365, but also, only if you are sincere and truthful; thus the necsessity of The Lord's DAILY sinners prayer.
"For ye Must worship Him in spirit/prayer and in truth/sincerity"
Though I have total respect of the church leaders that are of the faithkeeping generations; born 1948 and before; that is not the case in this generation, All of the warnings about this are in the Bible.
"I Will pollute mine inheritance" over and over again.
For we know that no man can save his brother.
Who really knows how another person worships, or not. Only! The Father, Son and Holy Spirit, truly Know that.
For thousands of years GOD Almighty taught the people how He needed to be worshipped and honored; this all boiled down to being, both serious and truthful when communicating with Him. No point in lying anyways, because He Knows.
This was done on a group/church and family level until the time of Christ.
Because of the constant obedience and dis-obedience of the leaders,(family leaders as well) causing GOD Almighty's wrath to fall upon the whole house of Israel, He took mercy upon those that were trying to be just that, being sincere and honest with Him.
So He sent His Son Christ to rip the veil of the tabernacle, (the entrance to the Holy of Holies) from top to bottom.
Why? Because quite frankly He doesn't want to hear from anybody that doesn't want to be sincere and truthful to Him.
Christ taught The New Way (Testament) of how to do just that, nailing approx. 600 laws of statutes and ordinances to the cross, (NOT THE Commandments of The Law) so that each and everyone of us can walk through that veil, IF one does it the way that Christ taught, not some human.
Whenever I bring up the subject of The Holy of Holies; I always forewarn, do it Christ's way; and a little heads up, He doesn't like too many I's, beyond, I Love You, I Miss You, and I Thank-You Father.
Any issues? ask Christ anytime, no formality's required. Christ is there for us 24/7/365, but also, only if you are sincere and truthful; thus the necsessity of The Lord's DAILY sinners prayer.
"For ye Must worship Him in spirit/prayer and in truth/sincerity"
Though I have total respect of the church leaders that are of the faithkeeping generations; born 1948 and before; that is not the case in this generation, All of the warnings about this are in the Bible.
"I Will pollute mine inheritance" over and over again.
For we know that no man can save his brother.
Who really knows how another person worships, or not. Only! The Father, Son and Holy Spirit, truly Know that.
The issue in the time of Christ's ministry is that the religious leaders had a religious system to protect built around the traditions of men rather than the Word of God...
Matthew 15:6-9 And honour not his father or his mother, he shall be free. Thus have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition.
Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying,
This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
Denominations if not careful can fall into the same trap.
Matthew 15:6-9 And honour not his father or his mother, he shall be free. Thus have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition.
Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying,
This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
Denominations if not careful can fall into the same trap.
L
Mark 7:8 For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.
Matthew 23:25 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess.
Matthew 23:26 Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also.
Proverbs 30:8 Remove far from me vanity and lies: give me neither poverty nor riches; feed me with food convenient for me:
Proverbs 30:9 Lest I be full, and deny thee, and say, Who is the LORD? or lest I be poor, and steal, and take the name of my God in vain.
There are two commandments listed in Proverbs 30:9 that tie into taking the name of God in vain.
Timothy 2:19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.
Claiming to know the Lord and walking contrary to HIM is taking His name in vain.The Pharisees were focused on the natural laws, the outward appearances.
The Law of God focused on the inward man.
Romans 7:22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:
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As far as churches and religious leaders go. I believe that as long as the word of God is being spoken that I can't complain. Paul said, "How will they hear without a preacher." I never would have heard without preacher.
However, there comes a point where a person who truly believes in God will begin to seek HIM out for themselves, and become a disciple unto Christ, searching, seeking and asking Him questions as he or she studies the word.
Jesus said that if the blind be followers of the blind they will both fall into a ditch.
A man can't give us the eyes to see, but he can plant, another can water, but it is God who gives the increase.
Matthew 23:25 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess.
Matthew 23:26 Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also.
Proverbs 30:8 Remove far from me vanity and lies: give me neither poverty nor riches; feed me with food convenient for me:
Proverbs 30:9 Lest I be full, and deny thee, and say, Who is the LORD? or lest I be poor, and steal, and take the name of my God in vain.
There are two commandments listed in Proverbs 30:9 that tie into taking the name of God in vain.
Timothy 2:19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.
Claiming to know the Lord and walking contrary to HIM is taking His name in vain.The Pharisees were focused on the natural laws, the outward appearances.
The Law of God focused on the inward man.
Romans 7:22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:
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As far as churches and religious leaders go. I believe that as long as the word of God is being spoken that I can't complain. Paul said, "How will they hear without a preacher." I never would have heard without preacher.
However, there comes a point where a person who truly believes in God will begin to seek HIM out for themselves, and become a disciple unto Christ, searching, seeking and asking Him questions as he or she studies the word.
Jesus said that if the blind be followers of the blind they will both fall into a ditch.
A man can't give us the eyes to see, but he can plant, another can water, but it is God who gives the increase.
M
The Divinities majors of today (the type of graduate-level seminarians who stand in many church pulpits) are experts at propagating the dogma of their churches by "spinning" their respective religious party's line. This might be why they're so well-liked in Evangelical pulpits and Republican "Tea Party" podiums. Yet they're only slightly better, if at all, than a Bible reader who, one day while eating supper, apparently saw what they believed was the face of Jesus in his or her mashed potatoes, and then self-determined s/he was called to be a preacher of the Gospel according to them.
But in answer to the OP, and while the names may have been changed to protect the religious leaders of numerous scripturally or spiritually confused flocks, or both, the main players remain essentially the same in character and nature.
But in answer to the OP, and while the names may have been changed to protect the religious leaders of numerous scripturally or spiritually confused flocks, or both, the main players remain essentially the same in character and nature.
I always smile at how quickly people are willing to dump on "religious leaders/Preachers" today........seriously.
With regards to the question posed in the OP: Those who are not "of Christ" are just the same today as they were then......NOT "of Christ." And it may seem that there are more today, but, well, YEAH...........just imagine how the world's population has increased since Jesus walked this earth.......it is only reasonable that there would be more right?
Now, the sad thing is, that some people want to lump all Pastors/Preachers/Church leaders into one lump and be done with it. That is really, really broad brush painting isn't it? I see so very many Godly people who have dedicated their lives to the Ministry. So many Godly people who have dedicated their lives to shepherding a flock of believers (local church), and many, many of them do so while also having to work full time outside of the church just to support themselves and their families. I see so very many Godly people who serve as Missionaries, Evangelists and such, and do so with little reward, and little respect from the Church........seriously?
Odd thing is, I have read comments here where some members say that they are "religious leaders." Wonder how they feel about all of this? There will always be those who are not "of God," and some of them will be found in the Ministry, but in my opinion, such as these are in the minority. I just don't understand why people can not display Christian love and support and respect for those men and women who have dedicated their lives to serving God.
With regards to the question posed in the OP: Those who are not "of Christ" are just the same today as they were then......NOT "of Christ." And it may seem that there are more today, but, well, YEAH...........just imagine how the world's population has increased since Jesus walked this earth.......it is only reasonable that there would be more right?
Now, the sad thing is, that some people want to lump all Pastors/Preachers/Church leaders into one lump and be done with it. That is really, really broad brush painting isn't it? I see so very many Godly people who have dedicated their lives to the Ministry. So many Godly people who have dedicated their lives to shepherding a flock of believers (local church), and many, many of them do so while also having to work full time outside of the church just to support themselves and their families. I see so very many Godly people who serve as Missionaries, Evangelists and such, and do so with little reward, and little respect from the Church........seriously?
Odd thing is, I have read comments here where some members say that they are "religious leaders." Wonder how they feel about all of this? There will always be those who are not "of God," and some of them will be found in the Ministry, but in my opinion, such as these are in the minority. I just don't understand why people can not display Christian love and support and respect for those men and women who have dedicated their lives to serving God.
What do you think ?
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I do believe that religious leaders are better today, at least here in the United States. For one thing, religious leaders are not the actual political leaders, which means that one church doesn't have a chance to dominate with a state religion like they used to in Europe. Another reason they are better is that they can't actually tax nonbelievers directly and demand money.
Yeh, great leaders, pretty sure in reality, that this forum proves beyond ant reasonable doubt, that they are useless for anything other than confusing the masses of people.
Most all of them Suck! plain and simple.
" Woe to to those who are with child and give suck in those days.
What days? LOL seems like no one knows or even cares for that matter.
Most all of them Suck! plain and simple.
" Woe to to those who are with child and give suck in those days.
What days? LOL seems like no one knows or even cares for that matter.
religious leaders? what religious leaders?
For while there is jealousy and strife among you, are you not of the flesh and behaving only in a human way? For when one says, “I follow Paul,” and another, “I follow Apollos,” are you not being merely human?
What then is Apollos? What is Paul? Servants through whom you believed, as the Lord assigned to each. I planted, Apollos watered, but God gave the growth. So neither he who plants nor he who waters is anything, but only God who gives the growth. He who plants and he who waters are one, and each will receive his wages according to his labor. For we are God’s fellow workers. You are God’s field, God’s building.
(1 Corinthians 3:3-9)
religious leaders are for the "merely human"
For while there is jealousy and strife among you, are you not of the flesh and behaving only in a human way? For when one says, “I follow Paul,” and another, “I follow Apollos,” are you not being merely human?
What then is Apollos? What is Paul? Servants through whom you believed, as the Lord assigned to each. I planted, Apollos watered, but God gave the growth. So neither he who plants nor he who waters is anything, but only God who gives the growth. He who plants and he who waters are one, and each will receive his wages according to his labor. For we are God’s fellow workers. You are God’s field, God’s building.
(1 Corinthians 3:3-9)
religious leaders are for the "merely human"
