The Origin of the Wedding Ring. Some of you ain't gonna like dis...

[Isdaniel]

hmmm it looks like u have to be wearing Jewelry to be to be rapture because in heaven they wearing the best of the best .lol[h=3]Revelation 4[/h]King James Version (KJV)

4 After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]And he that sat was to look upon like a jasper and a sardine stone: and there was a rainbow round about the throne, in sight like unto an emerald.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]And round about the throne were four and twenty seats: and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting, clothed in white raiment; and they had on their heads crowns of gold.

[SUP]10 [/SUP]The four and twenty elders fall down before him that sat on the throne, and worship him that liveth for ever and ever, and cast their crowns before the throne, saying,

[SUP]11 [/SUP]Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.

 

[Elizabeth619]

Elizabeth jewelry can be considered as an idol on ones body so yes if one decides to throw it off and discontinue wearing it I believe it can bring them close to God so long as they are doing it from the heart.
I am sure there are women who look holy on the outside but are still unconverted on the inside and they have tried to be converted from the outside in which is of course the wrong way to do it,
However I assume I am talking with converted born again holy ghost filled christians who do not want any idols weather it be on their person or not coming in between their relationship with God.
This goes for men too.
I used to wear a ring and a neckless but it never lasted very long because it just felt so weird.
I was doing it so I could be like the world and there was pride behind it so I took them off.
There was also a sense of competition behind this too where I have seen former friends of mine do this to see who can get the shiniest most expensive jewelry to attract more women.
The new testament instructions show us that there is nothing Godly about wearing jewelry and we are to separate ourselves from the world and things of the world which include the pride of life,lust of the eyes and the lust of the flesh.
We are also called to be living epistles read of all people, declaring to the world God’s holy nature and His abiding presence.(II Corinthians 3:3).
Our outward appearance is one way in which we are unspoken witness of the transforming power of Christ.
I want people to be able to distinguish between me and a worldly person by the way im dressed AND the way I act and treat them not because I am better than them but because I want them to know God can change us BOTH inside and outside.
Imagine if I come out of my house with sagging pants,an earing in both ears and a tattoo on my bicep and I try to be a witness for Christ.
I will be showing people that God can only convert their heart and does not care about their outward appearance which would be a false representation of the transforming power of God.

I actually know many who have brought others to Christ dressed that way. OThers were able to relate to them better than someone in a suit.


Paying that much attention to others wardrobe is not good from any angle.

 

[zone]

Beth it's nice that you're getting the jump on the anti-Christmas posts

even before Halloween...and don't forget Thanksgiving

haha.

prolly not home for the holidays this year - sooooo....it'll be a quick trip to the Dollar Store (which is actually the 2 dollar store up here). ahem.

 

[Isdaniel]

I wonder if God would have given Solomon riches if he had ask hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[h=3]1 Kings 3[/h]King James Version (KJV)

[SUP]5 [/SUP]In Gibeon the Lord appeared to Solomon in a dream by night: and God said, Ask what I shall give thee.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]And God said unto him, Because thou hast asked this thing, and hast not asked for thyself long life; neither hast asked riches for thyself, nor hast asked the life of thine enemies; but hast asked for thyself understanding to discern judgment;

[SUP]12 [/SUP]Behold, I have done according to thy words: lo, I have given thee a wise and an understanding heart; so that there was none like thee before thee, neither after thee shall any arise like unto thee.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]And I have also given thee that which thou hast not asked, both riches, and honour: so that there shall not be any among the kings like unto thee all thy days.

 

[Elizabeth619]

Beth it's nice that you're getting the jump on the anti-Christmas posts

even before Halloween...and don't forget Thanksgiving

haha.

prolly not home for the holidays this year - sooooo....it'll be a quick trip to the Dollar Store (which is actually the 2 dollar store up here). ahem.

Yeah, I wonder what the Pharisees have to say about Thanksgiving.


BTW, I have a Charlie Brown Christmas Tree. It is always my centerpeice for me kitchen table.
Walgreens 9.99

 

[Isdaniel]

The not wearing of jewelry is not biblical but making it your god is the problem . Hmmmm do any of you all have jewelry to give i am waiting lol

Job 31
[SUP]24 [/SUP]If I have made gold my hope, or have said to the fine gold, Thou art my confidence;

[SUP]25 [/SUP]If I rejoice because my wealth was great, and because mine hand had gotten much;

[SUP]26 [/SUP]If I beheld the sun when it shined, or the moon walking in brightness;
[SUP]27 [/SUP]And my heart hath been secretly enticed, or my mouth hath kissed my hand:

[SUP]28 [/SUP]This also were an iniquity to be punished by the judge: for I should have denied the God that is above.

 

[Elizabeth619]

I guess I am pretty righteous when it comes to jewelry. I break necklaces, hate bracelets, and lose rings. So I rarely rare anything. I guess this is an automatic ticket to Heaven.

 

[zone]

I guess I am pretty righteous when it comes to jewelry. I break necklaces, hate bracelets, and lose rings. So I rarely rare anything. I guess this is an automatic ticket to Heaven.

ditto. i stopped wearing a watch 25 years ago.
(hasn't slowed the aging process though)

mind you, now and then if i feel like some BLING - what's it to ya, anybody?

 

[marrion]

Elizabeth I understand what you are trying to say but no one is saying we have to witness wearing a suit.
I actually hate wearing suits and have probably only worn a suit two or three times my entire life.
I actually get suspicious when people approach me wearing a suit because I begin to wander if I am getting the realest(if that is even a word)and truest representation of that person.
We don't all have to dress the same way and we can actually show our personality by the way we dress without using things lke jewelry and makeup.
all you have to do is look at the different colors and fabrics of the different cultures we have to see that.

 

[Isdaniel]

hmmm i wonder if the poor who never had jewelry nor wore any but are wicked gets a automatic ticket to the kingdom

 

[Isdaniel]

hmmm i think people should go and witness naked lol

[h=3]Isaiah 20[/h]King James Version (KJV)

20 In the year that Tartan came unto Ashdod, (when Sargon the king of Assyria sent him,) and fought against Ashdod, and took it;

[SUP]2 [/SUP]At the same time spake the Lord by Isaiah the son of Amoz, saying, Go and loose the sackcloth from off thy loins, and put off thy shoe from thy foot. And he did so, walking naked and barefoot.

[SUP]3 [/SUP]And the Lord said, Like as my servant Isaiah hath walked naked and barefoot three years for a sign and wonder upon Egypt and upon Ethiopia;

 

[Isdaniel]

ditto. i stopped wearing a watch 25 years ago.
(hasn't slowed the aging process though)

mind you, now and then if i feel like some BLING - what's it to ya, anybody?

could you tell me the time please thank you .lol

 

[marrion]

isdaniel,are you comparing earthly jewelry to heavenly jewelry?
I don't think that is a very good comparison because a lot of the jewelry we will receive in heaven will be as a reward for how we lived our lives in obedience to Jesus and the things we did for Jesus while here on earth.
Jesus also told us to not focus on storing up treasure on earth but focus on storing up treasure in heaven which I think was a very wise saying:matthwe 16:15-2119Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal: 20But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal: 21For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.

I think being modest and not wearing jewelry could actually help you live longer in some neighborhoods because some people actually target those who wear expensive jewelry and they could end up losing their lives or being seriously hurt while being robbed.
The jewelry on earth is also worn for completely different and vain reasons when compared to the reason jewelry will be given to us to wear in heaven

 

[LT]

I will just follow the advice in the Song of Solomon when I get married. I will adorn her face... Yup, her whole face.

 

[Isdaniel]

isdaniel,are you comparing earthly jewelry to heavenly jewelry?
I don't think that is a very good comparison because a lot of the jewelry we will receive in heaven will be as a reward for how we lived our lives in obedience to Jesus and the things we did for Jesus while here on earth.
Jesus also told us to not focus on storing up treasure on earth but focus on storing up treasure in heaven which I think was a very wise saying:matthwe 16:15-2119Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal: 20But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal: 21For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.

I think being modest and not wearing jewelry could actually help you live longer in some neighborhoods because some people actually target those who wear expensive jewelry and they could end up losing their lives or being seriously hurt while being robbed.
The jewelry on earth is also worn for completely different and vain reasons when compared to the reason jewelry will be given to us to wear in heaven

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Hmmm Marrion i wonder if James condemmed the man for wearing fine or costly clothes and a ring

James 2:
1 My brothers, as believers in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ, don't show favoritism. 2Suppose a man comes into your meeting wearing a gold ring and fine clothes, and a poor man in shabby clothes also comes in. 3If you show special attention to the man wearing fine clothes and say, "Here's a good seat for you," but say to the poor man, "You stand there" or "Sit on the floor by my feet," 4have you not discriminated among yourselves and become judges with evil thoughts? 5Listen, my dear brothers: Has not God chosen those who are poor in the eyes of the world to be rich in faith and to inherit the kingdom he promised those who love him? 6But you have insulted the poor. Is it not the rich who are exploiting you? Are they not the ones who are dragging you into court? 7Are they not the ones who are slandering the noble name of him to whom you belong?

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[Isdaniel]

isdaniel,are you comparing earthly jewelry to heavenly jewelry?
I don't think that is a very good comparison because a lot of the jewelry we will receive in heaven will be as a reward for how we lived our lives in obedience to Jesus and the things we did for Jesus while here on earth.
Jesus also told us to not focus on storing up treasure on earth but focus on storing up treasure in heaven which I think was a very wise saying:matthwe 16:15-2119Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal: 20But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal: 21For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.

I think being modest and not wearing jewelry could actually help you live longer in some neighborhoods because some people actually target those who wear expensive jewelry and they could end up losing their lives or being seriously hurt while being robbed.
The jewelry on earth is also worn for completely different and vain reasons when compared to the reason jewelry will be given to us to wear in heaven

hmmm its look like the crown on Jesus head is not literal also

 

[marrion]

isdaniel the scriptures you are using are actually supporting my point of view concerning jewelry and how people use it on earth.
James actually criticizes the rich who who exploit the poor and drag them into court and also slander the name of Jesus.
Jesus also said that it would be easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God but what is impossible with man is possible with God.Jesus also mentioned the rich and poor in the following scriptures
luke 6:20 [SUP]20 [/SUP]And he lifted up his eyes on his disciples, and said, Blessed be ye poor: for yours is the kingdom of God.
luke 6:24 [SUP]24 [/SUP]But woe unto you that are rich! for ye have received your consolation.

 

[Isdaniel]

[h=3]1 Peter 3[/h]King James Version (KJV)

3 Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives;
[SUP]2 [/SUP]While they behold your chaste conversation coupled with fear.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel;
[SUP]4 [/SUP]But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]For after this manner in the old time the holy women also, who trusted in God, adorned themselves, being in subjection unto their own husbands:

 

[Isdaniel]

Now, when presented with a passage such as this, we have two options. The first option is to assume that the author is presenting a principle, and that the examples that he uses to illustrate the principles are just that: examples. The second option is to assume that the author is laying down a set of rules, and that he expects people to take him literally. The one thing that is not an option is to take part of the passage literally and part of it figuratively—yet that is exactly what the organizations frequently do.
For example, if Peter expects us to take him literally then we need to do just that. If he is speaking literally, and he is laying down rules, then here is what we can glean:

1. Peter is speaking only to wives. The things that he is saying do not apply to single women.
2. Wives cannot braid their hair.
3. Wives cannot wear gold jewelry (other kinds are presumably allowed).
4. Wives must not wear COSTLY APPAREL HMM M ONLY CHEAP APPAREL

 

[Isdaniel]

T
That is option one.
Option two is that Peter is using fancy hair styles, gold jewelry, and fancy clothes as examples because they help him make his point. If option two is correct then we can glean these principles:

1. Peter is speaking specifically to wives—especially those who have unsaved husbands—but the principle can apply to us all.
2. His principle is that we should not focus on our outer appearance—on our lavish hairdos, fancy clothes, and expensive jewelry—but we should instead focus on cultivating “chaste and respectful behavior.”

I will let you decide which of those two options is correct. All that I will say is that one of them has to be correct. I want to stress again that it is illogical and absurd to read this passage and pull one word out—jewelry—and teach that it is wrong while maintaining that braided hair and dresses are alright.