What are the scripture to support the practise of worshipping the Holy Spirit with the Father & the Son? I know the Holy Spirit is of the Triune God, but I cannot find any scripture in the NT that states that this is the will of the Father for us to do when we can only honour the Father by honouring the Son in fellowship, prayer, & worship.
There are the verses from which singles out the Father's will.
John 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son: 23 That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.
John 13:31 Therefore, when he was gone out, Jesus said, Now is the Son of man glorified, and God is glorified in him. 32 If God be glorified in him, God shall also glorify him in himself, and shall straightway glorify him.
1 Corinthians 1:9 God is faithful, by whom ye were called unto the fellowship of his Son Jesus Christ our Lord.
1 Corinthians 2:1And I, brethren, when I came to you, came not with excellency of speech or of wisdom, declaring unto you the testimony of God. 2 For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.
Philippians 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: 8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. 9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: 10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
The role of the Holy Spirit as God, will not speak of Himself ( John 16:13 ) but testify of the Son ( John 15:26 ) to seek to glorify the Son ( John 16:14 ) as a true witness will do ( John 7:18 ) as those led by the Spirit will be doing the same thing ( John 15:27 ) so that as a combined singular witness with the indwelling Holy Spirit's, our witness may be true ( John 8:17 )
Scripture reproves the practise of the Holy Spirit to be worshipped with the Father & the Son because those led by the Spirit would not speak of the Holy Spirit in seeking the glory of the Holy Spirit.
This was what I have learned from the Lord in the scripture, and the verses that websites places for validating the Nicene creed does not support it. It just testify that the Holy Spirit is God, but it does not signify the will of the Father in how we are to come to Him in worship when scripture has singled out the Son as the only way.
What's the point of contention? Why did the "holy laughter" movement went across the denomenations in 1994 as reported by the 700 Club as happening in Catholic & Protestant churches when it used to be a streamlined Pentecostal/Charismatic event? Why after that initial encounter, the focus was on the "Holy Spirit" to come and do that again? And they do call on the Person of the Holy Spirit directly for that to occur again & it has.... and yet many believers would say that it is not of God because it is of confusion.
Are the promises of God yea & nay? Will those that call on Jesus Christ will have the devil answer them? No. So what happened?
The commandment of His invitation was to come to the Son for He is the only way to the Father: not by way of the "Spirit". By broadening the way in the worship place ( Matthew 7:13-14) by including the worship of the Holy Spirit with the Father & the Son, churches have suffered a thief to break thru and many houses have fallen because of it as Jesus warned for not heeding His words & doing them ( Matthew 7:24-27 )
Proverbs 25:26 A righteous man falling down before the wicked is as a troubled fountain, and a corrupt spring. 27 It is not good to eat much honey: so for men to search their own glory is not glory. 28 He that hath no rule over his own spirit is like a city that is broken down, and without walls.
To avoid that above: is why Jesus said this to saved believers below.
Luke 13:24 Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.
John 10:1Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. 7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him....13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.
As the chaste bride is to be to the Bridegroom, believers as well as churches need to recognize the role of the Holy Spirit & the will of the Father in heeding the commandment of the Son's invitation in living this reconciled relationship with God thru the Son.Jesus Christ
There are the verses from which singles out the Father's will.
John 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son: 23 That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.
John 13:31 Therefore, when he was gone out, Jesus said, Now is the Son of man glorified, and God is glorified in him. 32 If God be glorified in him, God shall also glorify him in himself, and shall straightway glorify him.
1 Corinthians 1:9 God is faithful, by whom ye were called unto the fellowship of his Son Jesus Christ our Lord.
1 Corinthians 2:1And I, brethren, when I came to you, came not with excellency of speech or of wisdom, declaring unto you the testimony of God. 2 For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.
Philippians 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: 8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. 9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: 10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
The role of the Holy Spirit as God, will not speak of Himself ( John 16:13 ) but testify of the Son ( John 15:26 ) to seek to glorify the Son ( John 16:14 ) as a true witness will do ( John 7:18 ) as those led by the Spirit will be doing the same thing ( John 15:27 ) so that as a combined singular witness with the indwelling Holy Spirit's, our witness may be true ( John 8:17 )
Scripture reproves the practise of the Holy Spirit to be worshipped with the Father & the Son because those led by the Spirit would not speak of the Holy Spirit in seeking the glory of the Holy Spirit.
This was what I have learned from the Lord in the scripture, and the verses that websites places for validating the Nicene creed does not support it. It just testify that the Holy Spirit is God, but it does not signify the will of the Father in how we are to come to Him in worship when scripture has singled out the Son as the only way.
What's the point of contention? Why did the "holy laughter" movement went across the denomenations in 1994 as reported by the 700 Club as happening in Catholic & Protestant churches when it used to be a streamlined Pentecostal/Charismatic event? Why after that initial encounter, the focus was on the "Holy Spirit" to come and do that again? And they do call on the Person of the Holy Spirit directly for that to occur again & it has.... and yet many believers would say that it is not of God because it is of confusion.
Are the promises of God yea & nay? Will those that call on Jesus Christ will have the devil answer them? No. So what happened?
The commandment of His invitation was to come to the Son for He is the only way to the Father: not by way of the "Spirit". By broadening the way in the worship place ( Matthew 7:13-14) by including the worship of the Holy Spirit with the Father & the Son, churches have suffered a thief to break thru and many houses have fallen because of it as Jesus warned for not heeding His words & doing them ( Matthew 7:24-27 )
Proverbs 25:26 A righteous man falling down before the wicked is as a troubled fountain, and a corrupt spring. 27 It is not good to eat much honey: so for men to search their own glory is not glory. 28 He that hath no rule over his own spirit is like a city that is broken down, and without walls.
To avoid that above: is why Jesus said this to saved believers below.
Luke 13:24 Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.
John 10:1Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. 7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him....13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.
As the chaste bride is to be to the Bridegroom, believers as well as churches need to recognize the role of the Holy Spirit & the will of the Father in heeding the commandment of the Son's invitation in living this reconciled relationship with God thru the Son.Jesus Christ
