Premarital Sex
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Because Paul came from a culture where to have sex with someone was effectively the same as marrying them or committing to do so--except in cases of prostitution, incest, bestiality, slavery, etc. The verse is saying that love and marriage is godly, and that defiling that order with perversion is ungodly.
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Let's take a good look at what premarital sex has does to children born out of wedlock and what it has done to society. I know firsthand. I have a 9 year old son and his emotional well being has been greatly affected by what his mom and I did. I have been there for him as much as possible and still it
is not enough because his biological parents don't live together with him. When I am not able to see him because of illness, he yearns for me to see him.
is not enough because his biological parents don't live together with him. When I am not able to see him because of illness, he yearns for me to see him.
I agree with what you said about sexual immorality, however, i don't think it is anyone's place to judge the heart of another.
If the person is a Christian and you make that presumption.. its offensive and going to sow discord.
If the person isn't a Christian and you make that presumption.. thats not showing him Christ's love and I doubt he'll want to convert after that.
So its a lose-lose.
If the person is a Christian and you make that presumption.. its offensive and going to sow discord.
If the person isn't a Christian and you make that presumption.. thats not showing him Christ's love and I doubt he'll want to convert after that.
So its a lose-lose.
Ezekiel 33
8 When I say unto the wicked, O wicked man, thou shalt surely die; if thou dost not speak to warn the wicked from his way, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.
9 Nevertheless, if thou warn the wicked of his way to turn from it; if he do not turn from his way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul.
You may think it is politically or religiously correct to sit quietly and not tell anyone whether or not they are truly saved or not, but I will not have this man's blood on my hands. The Bible has given us guide line to which we can know who is in need of repentance and who may not be, and backenzee is in need of repentance.
Brackenzee,
1. Paul did not write Hebrews
1. Paul did not write Hebrews
2. The culture in question was ancient Israel... the book is to the HEBREWS
3. The statement is clear.... it is marriage alone that the bed is undefiled... all else is fornication or adultery which will be judged.
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You may think it is politically or religiously correct to sit quietly and not tell anyone whether or not they are truly saved or not, but I will not have this man's blood on my hands. The Bible has given us guide line to which we can know who is in need of repentance and who may not be, and backenzee is in need of repentance.
No, God alone knows the status of a man's soul. The only thing we can judge is a person's actions.
Ezekiel 33
8 When I say unto the wicked, O wicked man, thou shalt surely die; if thou dost not speak to warn the wicked from his way, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.
9 Nevertheless, if thou warn the wicked of his way to turn from it; if he do not turn from his way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul.
M
Maybe i should repost what God Himself says on the subject.
Ezekiel 33
8 When I say unto the wicked, O wicked man, thou shalt surely die; if thou dost not speak to warn the wicked from his way, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.
9 Nevertheless, if thou warn the wicked of his way to turn from it; if he do not turn from his way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul.
Ezekiel 33
8 When I say unto the wicked, O wicked man, thou shalt surely die; if thou dost not speak to warn the wicked from his way, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.
9 Nevertheless, if thou warn the wicked of his way to turn from it; if he do not turn from his way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul.
So based on that, you're telling me that you know for sure which individuals are going to hell?
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No, I do not know everyone who is going to Hell and who is not, but I can see when there is someone who is in need of repentance. If someone is an unrepentant murderer, and claims to be a christian, it is not judging them to realize they are (not saved, and) in need of repentance..
M
So you are saying an unrepentant murder is saved, and on their way to Heaven even if they never repent?
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it's not premarital sex that causes problems. It's bad choices about marriage partners that causes problems. People are breaking the laws that Christ stated and are divorcing for all sorts of reasons, when the ONLY reason someone is to divorce is for fornication. So this "marriage" you are talking about wouldn't solve anything. it's the covenant btwn the man and the woman that God looks at. Matthew 19:1-12
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Jesus, I believe, taught us to remain sexually abstinent until we marry, evidenced by two Scriptures I’ll add at the end of this post. However, many of our churches seem to be promoting premarital sex—especially homosexual intercourse. Why?
1 John 4:1
Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.
Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.
2 Peter 2:1
But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves.
But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves.
Why do I call it false teaching? Because scripture learns us the very importance of marriage, from the first Book of Genesis, but further explained in the New Testament.
Genesis 2:24
For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and they will become one flesh.
For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and they will become one flesh.
1 Corinthians 6:16
Do you not know that he who unites himself with a prostitute is one with her in body? For it is said, "The two will become one flesh."
Do you not know that he who unites himself with a prostitute is one with her in body? For it is said, "The two will become one flesh."
1 John 2:16
For everything in the world—the cravings of sinful man, the lust of his eyes and the boasting of what he has and does—comes not from the Father but from the world.
For everything in the world—the cravings of sinful man, the lust of his eyes and the boasting of what he has and does—comes not from the Father but from the world.
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