Unicorns mentioned in the bible, did they actually exist?

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Hey guys I know this sounds like a dumb question, but could it be that unicorns existed?
In the bible it mentions unicorns in Job 39:9-10(King James Version): 9 Will the unicorn be willing to serve thee, or abide by thy crib? 10 Canst thou bind the unicorn with his band in the furrow? or will he harrow the valleys after thee?
I'm pretty sure unicorn means something else, :p
But is it possible that unicorns did exist? xD

 

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uh, oh, guess I should add............

Matthew 19:26) But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.
 
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Webster's 1828 Dictionary

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U'NICORN, n. [L. unicornis; unus, one, and cornu, horn.]
1. an animal with one horn; the monoceros. this name is often applied to the rhinoceros.
2. The sea unicorn is a fish of the whale kind, called narwal, remarkable for a horn growing out at his nose.
3. A fowl.fossil unicorn, or fossil unicorn's horn, a substance used in medicine, a terrene crustaceous spar.[/TD]
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The scientific name for the rhinoceros is "Rhinoceros unicornis."
 
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Hey guys I know this sounds like a dumb question, but could it be that unicorns existed?
In the bible it mentions unicorns in Job 39:9-10(King James Version): 9 Will the unicorn be willing to serve thee, or abide by thy crib? 10 Canst thou bind the unicorn with his band in the furrow? or will he harrow the valleys after thee?
I'm pretty sure unicorn means something else, :p
But is it possible that unicorns did exist? xD

It was an Rhino. Just imagine if you were living in the times of the Exodus, in Egypt where there were Rhinos that roam everywhere, and then you move to a region where they doesn't exist. And you tell the people about what you have experience and saw and tried to draw it also, during the times that you were in Egypt about Rhinos. The listeners is going to compare it to something like a horse or something else that they are familiar with.


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Hey guys I know this sounds like a dumb question, but could it be that unicorns existed?
In the bible it mentions unicorns in Job 39:9-10(King James Version): 9 Will the unicorn be willing to serve thee, or abide by thy crib? 10 Canst thou bind the unicorn with his band in the furrow? or will he harrow the valleys after thee?
I'm pretty sure unicorn means something else, :p
But is it possible that unicorns did exist? xD


No ,they don't exist . It's a mistranslation from the manuscripts. What it actually says is, Wild ox. You can use a Strong's Concordance to help you. I'll see if I can post it here. One moment.


רם רים ראים ראם

re'êm re'êym rêym rêm

{reh-ame'} {reh-ame'} {rame} rame

From H7213 ; a wild bull (from its conspicuousness ): - unicorn.

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ראם

râ'am

raw-am'

A primitive root; to rise: - be lifted up.


Lifted up, probably because of how a Ox lifts up its head before impact. If you look more into it, you'll find there is more evidence that it is a Wild Ox. Because of the subject its used in.
 
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This video is an awesome explanation...

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Too bad I can't click Like, my own post : )
 
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I would say like dragons and unicorns as we understand them today are from tall tales made in an oral culture to make their stories entertaining - especially as generations fell aside and there were less and less actual points of references - dinosaurs - possibly a horse with a small horn in the center of his head etc
 

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Job 39:5) Who hath sent out the wild ass free? or who hath loosed the bands of the wild ass?
6 .) Whose house I have made the wilderness, and the barren land his dwellings.
7 .) He scorneth the multitude of the city, neither regardeth he the crying of the driver.
8 .) The range of the mountains is his pasture, and he searcheth after every green thing.
9 .) Will the unicorn be willing to serve thee, or abide by thy crib?
10 .) Canst thou bind the unicorn with his band in the furrow? or will he harrow the valleys after thee?
11 .) Wilt thou trust him, because his strength is great? or wilt thou leave thy labour to him?
12 .) Wilt thou believe him, that he will bring home thy seed, and gather it into thy barn?

Job 40:15) Behold now behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass as an ox.

Lessee............we got wild ass, unicorn, and ox mentioned in these, and there is also mentioned wild goat in 39:1) Knowest thou the time when the wild goats of the rock bring forth? or canst thou mark when the hinds do calve?

So, take your pick? :)

Oh, yeah, there's rino's too............but I don't want to be political.......
 

p_rehbein

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Hey, and then there is............

Psalms 29:6) He maketh them also to skip like a calf; Lebanon and Sirion like a young unicorn.

Psalms 92:10) But my horn shalt thou exalt like the horn of an unicorn: I shall be anointed with fresh oil.

Deuteronomy 33:17 “His glory is like the firstling of his bullock, and his horns are like the horns of unicorns: with them he shall push the people together to the ends of the earth: and they are the ten thousands of Ephraim, and they are the thousands of Manasseh.”

Psalms 22:21 “Save me from the lion’s mouth: for thou hast heard me from the horns of the unicorns.”

Isaiah 34:7
“And the unicorns shall come down with them, and the bullocks with the bulls; and their land shall be soaked with blood, and their dust made fat with fatness.”


Numbers 23:22 “God brought them out of Egypt; he hath as it were the strength of an unicorn.”

Numbers 24:8
“God brought him forth out of Egypt; he hath as it were the strength of an unicorn: he shall eat up the nations his enemies, and shall break their bones, and pierce them through with his arrows.”

Article found here:

Why Does The Bible Mention Unicorns? | Creation Today


Unicorns are not mentioned in any of the modern translations. Only in the King James version are they mentioned. Most of the modern translations say “wild ox.” Some translations even say “buffalo.”
However, many Christian apologists are insistent that the King James Version is the most accurate of all the English translations. So because of this, some people, especially atheists, like to scoff at the Bible and make fun of it as a book of myths and fairy tales.
However, it is important to understand that the definition of the word “unicorn” has changed over time.
If you get an old 1828 Noah Webster’s Dictionary, which is the very first edition dictionary that Webster came out with about 200 years ago, and look up the word “unicorn” it says:
Unicorn – An animal with one horn; the monoceros. this name is often applied to the rhinoceros.
(This 1828 dictionary can be accessed free online. Just go to Google.com and type in “Noah Webster 1828” and it will be one of the first links that pop up.)
Notice how this 200-year-old definition of the word “unicorn” says absolutely nothing about a horse. It says nothing about a horse-like animal, or a mythical animal, or a fictitious creature. It says absolutely nothing about mythology whatsoever. But rather, it says that this is a name that is often applied to the rhinoceros.
Now, anyone who has ever seen a rhinoceros knows that a rhino has two horns — a larger one up front, and a smaller one behind. So, how could a rhinoceros be considered a unicorn?
Well, if you look up the word “rhinoceros” in the same dictionary it says:
Rhinoceros – A genus of quadrupeds of two species, one of which, the unicorn, has a single horn growing almost erect from the nose. This animal when full grown, is said to be 12 feet in length. There is another species with two horns, the bicornis. They are natives of Asia and Africa.
According to Noah Webster, back in the early 1800’s it was understood that there were two species of the rhinoceros. The one-horned species was called “unicorn,” and the two-horned species was called “bicornis.”
Today it is understood that there are five species of the rhinoceros, three of which have two horns, and two of which have one horn.
So basically, if you get a 200-year-old Noah Webster’s dictionary and look up the word “unicorn” it says “rhinoceros,” and if you look up the word “rhinoceros” it says “unicorn.” That was just 200 years ago. The King James was translated 400 years ago in 1611. One does not have to be good at math to figure this out.
Today’s definition of the word “unicorn” says absolutely nothing about a rhinoceros, and today’s definition of “rhinoceros” says absolutely nothing about a unicorn. The definitions have changed over time.
So, if the definition of “unicorn” has changed in just the past 200 years from rhinoceros to horse, then it doesn’t make much sense to take a modern definition of the word “unicorn” and apply it to a 400-year-old translation of the Bible. That’s illogical.
As a matter of fact, even today the scientific name of the Asian One-Horned Rhinoceros is Rhinoceros unicornis. And Diceros bicornis is the scientific name of a two-horned rhinoceros called the Black Rhinoceros. Where do you think those scientific names came from?
Well, they came from the Latin. Unicornis and bicornis are Latin words. That’s interesting, because If you look up Psalm 92:10 in the Latin Bible, the Latin word that is being used here is the word “unicornis.”
Psalm 92:10 in the Latin text:
“Et exaltabitur sicut unicornis cornu meum,
et senectus mea in misericordia uberi.”
“Unicornis” is the same Latin word that is being used in the scientific name of the Asian One-Horned Rhinoceros.
If you look up Job 39:9 in the Latin Bible, the word that is being used here is the word “rinoceros”:
Job 39:9 in the Latin text:
numquid volet rinoceros servire tibi,
aut morabitur ad praesepe tuum
So, one verse says “rinoceros” and the other says “unicornis.”
 
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[h=2]Rhinoceros
Rhino Horn Use: Fact vs. Fiction[/h]
All five of the world’s diverse species of rhinoceros have been brought to the edge of extinction because of human appetite for their distinctive horns. The horns have been prized for tens of centuries for their beautiful translucent color when carved, and their supposed healing properties.
In the Middle Eastern country of Yemen, the horn continues to be coveted by Muslim men, although imports were banned in 1982. The material, whose luster increases with age, is used for the handles of curved daggers called “jambiya,” which are presented to Yemeni boys at age 12. Jambiya are considered a sign of manhood and devotion to the Muslim religion, and are used for personal defense. Rhinoceros - Rhino Horn Use: Fact vs. Fiction | Nature | PBS



A unicorn horn, also known as an alicorn,[SUP][1][/SUP] is a legendary object whose reality may have been accepted in Western Europe throughout the Middle Ages. Many healing powers and antidote's virtues were attributed to the horn of the unicorn. These properties, assumed real since the 13th century, make it one of the most expensive and most reputable remedies during the Renaissance,[SUP][2][/SUP] and justify its use in royal courts. Beliefs related to the "unicorn horn" influence alchemy through spagyric medicine; that the object was at the origin of a series of tests over its purification properties, among othres recounted in the book of Ambroise Paré, Discourse on unicorn, announcing the beginnings of the experimental method.
Seen as one of the most valuable assets that a king could possess, unicorn horns were exchanged and could be purchased at apothecaries as universal antidotes until the 18th century. Other horns were displayed in cabinets of curiosities. The horn was used to create sceptres and other sovereign objects, such as the "throne of unicorn" of Danish kings, the sceptre and the imperial crown of the Austrian Empire, as well as the scabbardand the hilt of the sword of Charles the Bold. The legendary unicorn was never captured, but its symbolism associated with its appeal to the virgins' lap made it the symbol of the incarnation of God's Word, innocence and divine power
Beliefs in the virtues of the unicorn horn and its origins persisted from the Middle Ages to the 18th century, when the discovery of the narwhal is known. This marine mammal is the true bearer of the "unicorn horn", actually a particular tooth in the mouth of males and some females.
Unicorn horn - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia