WW111 ANYDAY NOW?? NUKES TO BE USED IN THE HOLYLAND!

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zone

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well please explain it to me then.
i'm serious.

is he saying "when you see jerusalem surrounded by armies" is going down right now in the Middle East?

others appeared to understand it, clicked like and said things like "any hour now".

so i wondered what is any hour now? i need to be prepared.

"when you see jerusalem surrounded by armies" ?

should i call my friend in Judea? tell him not to take his coat with him?

or is the ancient prophecy of Edom's destruction is coming around again?
i mean, it's possible to have a literal to the letter dual fulfillment i guess.
by using exactly the same prophecies.

i'm just asking to see it.
it's hard to see it when 5 short pieces from 5 books spanning 3000 years are stitched together.
 
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i mean, it's possible to have a literal to the letter dual fulfillment i guess.
by using exactly the same prophecies.

i'm just asking to see it.
it's hard to see it when 5 short pieces from 5 books spanning 3000 years are stitched together.

See post 71 to 80 i know what i understand but only he can explain what he meant by that to you i will not explain someone else post blessss
 
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When you pray for the holy spirit of our father in heaven to be with you as you read the Bible then you understand more
There is a prayer in Psalms that helps:
Open my eyes that I may see wondrous things out of the law (Torah - al that the prophets have spoken)
and
"Please father in heaven, give me understanding in reading your word."

Since the Bible is written by one spirit and one author (God)
you can stitch it under inspiration and it is wonderful and explains itself

You see, there is only one history of events that happened no matter what they try and rewrite and there is only one future, no matter how you try to explain it and the Bible show the beginning from the end, so you take the books that apply to the area you are studying...

Amos zephaniah and habakkuk are going to occur right now...

read the book of DANIEL and then write down all the codes, and then read Revelation and everything is clear

This is how Jesus wants us to Bible study:
Isa 28:9 Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.
Isa 28:10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:
Isa 28:11 For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people.
Isa 28:12 To whom he said, This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear.
Isa 28:13 But the word of the LORD was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little;
 
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YES!!! THE PEOPLE IN NOAH'S TIME WERE LAUGHING ,SCOFFING UNTIL THE RAIN STARTED THEN THE LAUGHING STOPPED!!! SAD HUH?? SOME MUST LEARN THE HARD WAY!
I to believe WWIII could start soon, actually I've been meditating on what my preacher said this week. That we possibly could be in WWIII now. We are looking for WWIII to look like WWI and WWII but this one will be different. Remember the mockers and scoffers are in the Book. Most that mock I believe are those that believe in Pre-trib rapture. I think they are more scared to admit their own time is running out. Yes, in my eyes its shocking what is going on with Iran. My God we are so close. But guess what, we Americans can get gas cheaper (whew).
 
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I to believe WWIII could start soon, actually I've been meditating on what my preacher said this week. That we possibly could be in WWIII now. We are looking for WWIII to look like WWI and WWII but this one will be different. Remember the mockers and scoffers are in the Book. Most that mock I believe are those that believe in Pre-trib rapture. I think they are more scared to admit their own time is running out. Yes, in my eyes its shocking what is going on with Iran. My God we are so close. But guess what, we Americans can get gas cheaper (whew).
cheaper gas..lol I agree, and the signs, famine, wars, earthquakes..those alone should give anyone pause. Knowledge increased, people running here and there, and some say that now is just like it's always been, and that every generation before us had people thinking they were living in end times too. Well things are not as they have always been. That statement is ludicrous. I think pre-trib is a wishful fantasy. doesn't the Bible say at the last trump? I think it does.
 
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i mean, it's possible to have a literal to the letter dual fulfillment i guess.
by using exactly the same prophecies.

i'm just asking to see it.
it's hard to see it when 5 short pieces from 5 books spanning 3000 years are stitched together.
I'm sure you're studied this in detail as you have a lot of things, so I'm not sure I can show it to you or not.

I don't think the preterist/amilennialist view takes into account all of revelation so to me dual fuifillment makes a lot of sense. Thats what I personally see hapening. It's not as crazy as it sounds if they rebuild a third temple. Even the bible itself seems to support it as one could argue that Isaiah and Daniel were written for the Jewish people, whereas Revelation was written for the early church. Paul had made it abundantly clear the early church was not Judaism.

I mean when did the trumpets and the seals of revelation happen. And when did Christ return? And, if the church age is the millenial reign, the milennial reign well - sucks.

But, dual fulfillment would reuire a third temple. Israel came close to doing it during the six day war. The hard liners wanted to blow up the dome of the rock, cooler heads prevailed and it didn't happen. Cooler heads prevailed and they also didn't use the nuclear weapons they probably had at the time (which they most definitely do have now).

Is the part of dual fulfillment that gives you trouble the part where Israel seems to escape unscathed? Or the part where people revel in all the destruction thinking that whatever crazy decisions they make won't matter because they just get raptured out?
 
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ServantStrike

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I to believe WWIII could start soon, actually I've been meditating on what my preacher said this week. That we possibly could be in WWIII now. We are looking for WWIII to look like WWI and WWII but this one will be different. Remember the mockers and scoffers are in the Book. Most that mock I believe are those that believe in Pre-trib rapture. I think they are more scared to admit their own time is running out. Yes, in my eyes its shocking what is going on with Iran. My God we are so close. But guess what, we Americans can get gas cheaper (whew).
War in the middle east has nothing to do with oil.

The US, Russia, and now Australia are sitting on some truly massive oil reserves. Enough to outstrip middle east production.
 

zone

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I'm sure you're studied this in detail as you have a lot of things, so I'm not sure I can show it to you or not.

I don't think the preterist/amilennialist view takes into account all of revelation so to me dual fuifillment makes a lot of sense. Thats what I personally see hapening. It's not as crazy as it sounds if they rebuild a third temple. Even the bible itself seems to support it as one could argue that Isaiah and Daniel were written for the Jewish people, whereas Revelation was written for the early church. Paul had made it abundantly clear the early church was not Judaism.

I mean when did the trumpets and the seals of revelation happen. And when did Christ return? And, if the church age is the millenial reign, the milennial reign well - sucks.
well, the Millennialists golden age sounds horrible.
blood sacrifices and half glorified ppl with flesh ppl and war and rebellion and stuff anyways.
so what's the diff?

But, dual fulfillment would reuire a third temple. Israel came close to doing it during the six day war. The hard liners wanted to blow up the dome of the rock, cooler heads prevailed and it didn't happen. Cooler heads prevailed and they also didn't use the nuclear weapons they probably had at the time (which they most definitely do have now).

Is the part of dual fulfillment that gives you trouble the part where Israel seems to escape unscathed? Or the part where people revel in all the destruction thinking that whatever crazy decisions they make won't matter because they just get raptured out?
no, because the dual fulfillment is using exactly the same predictions of 70AD that Jesus made.

i tried that for awhile - it doesn't work..
 

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just a curious question,,,"ww3 and Armageddon,,does everyone agree that these are the same event?",,
 
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ww3, please discuss in moderation. side affects may include lose of sanity, boredom, panic, annoyed slap on the forehead, paranoia, the increasing urge to plug your ears and yell LA LA LA i'm not listining and other possible side effects that may or may not be relevant such as the famous homer simpson DOH!
 
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ww3, please discuss in moderation. side affects may include lose of sanity, boredom, panic, annoyed slap on the forehead, paranoia, the increasing urge to plug your ears and yell LA LA LA i'm not listining and other possible side effects that may or may not be relevant such as the famous homer simpson DOH!

Very funny hahaha haha
 

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When you pray for the holy spirit of our father in heaven to be with you as you read the Bible then you understand more
There is a prayer in Psalms that helps:
Open my eyes that I may see wondrous things out of the law (Torah - al that the prophets have spoken)
and
"Please father in heaven, give me understanding in reading your word."

Since the Bible is written by one spirit and one author (God)
you can stitch it under inspiration and it is wonderful and explains itself
I take it that you think you're the only Christian who asks the Lord for understanding!
 
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well, the Millennialists golden age sounds horrible.
blood sacrifices and half glorified ppl with flesh ppl and war and rebellion and stuff anyways.
so what's the diff?



no, because the dual fulfillment is using exactly the same predictions of 70AD that Jesus made.

i tried that for awhile - it doesn't work..
But doesn't it kind of have to work? I mean if it doesn't, then that means Christ came back and no one knows about it.

The fleshly bodies in the millenial reign do sound like a raw deal in some regards. I have seen some pretty bad botch jobs where people claim there will be resurrected saints with their immortal bodies alongside people who do not have their heavenly bodies during that time.
 
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just a curious question,,,"ww3 and Armageddon,,does everyone agree that these are the same event?",,
It's pretty clear that the two cannot be the same event.

Read revelation 16. It's a judgment from God, not a bunch of earthly men fighting.
 

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just a curious question,,,"ww3 and Armageddon,,does everyone agree that these are the same event?",,
No.

Armageddon is the final battle which will also be a supernatural battle, that is angels and demons involved. Purpose of this battle is to wipe Israel off map and kill all Jews, but Christ comes at head of an army to put end to it.

There will be another world war, but I hope to be long gone before this happens. There are other wars against Israel first, which will not be a world war.

Bible prophecy is pretty good, it gives us a few titbits and couple of key facts and that is it. This is so when it happens people know its happening and to be precise enough so that it is difficult for sceptics to prove wrong.

It is exciting times we live in, but I stop short of WANTING to see things happen, many end timers almost seem to want to see war break out and get excited when they think an even could spark Russia attacking Israel, which is not a good attitude to have.

Just get on with living for today, yes it is all fascinating but don't let it consume you and take over your life, especially if it brings you into fear, worrying that we will all wake up to a nuclear war.
 
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No.

Armageddon is the final battle which will also be a supernatural battle, that is angels and demons involved. Purpose of this battle is to wipe Israel off map and kill all Jews, but Christ comes at head of an army to put end to it.

There will be another world war, but I hope to be long gone before this happens. There are other wars against Israel first, which will not be a world war.

Bible prophecy is pretty good, it gives us a few titbits and couple of key facts and that is it. This is so when it happens people know its happening and to be precise enough so that it is difficult for sceptics to prove wrong.

It is exciting times we live in, but I stop short of WANTING to see things happen, many end timers almost seem to want to see war break out and get excited when they think an even could spark Russia attacking Israel, which is not a good attitude to have.

Just get on with living for today, yes it is all fascinating but don't let it consume you and take over your life, especially if it brings you into fear, worrying that we will all wake up to a nuclear war.

Armageddon is not the final battle
 
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WWIII IS FOUND HERE!!! ==EZEKEL CH 38==38 And the word of the Lord came unto me, saying,2 “Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal (RUSSIA) and prophesy against him3 and say, ‘Thus saith the Lord God: Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal.4 And I will turn thee back and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts of armor, even a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords;5 Persia,(IRAN) Ethiopia, and Libya with them, all of them with shield and helmet;6 Gomer and all his bands; the house of Togarmah of the north quarters and all his bands — and many people with thee.7 “‘Be thou prepared and prepare for thyself, thou and all thy company that are assembled unto thee, and be thou a guard unto them.8 After many days thou shalt be visited. In the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste; but it is brought forth out of the nations and they shall dwell safely, all of them.9 Thou shalt ascend and come like a storm. Thou shalt be like a cloud to cover the land, thou and all thy troops, and many people with thee.10 “‘Thus saith the Lord God: It shall also come to pass that at the same time shall things come into thy mind, and thou shalt think an evil thought;11 and thou shalt say, “I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, who dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls and having neither bars nor gates”—12 to take a spoil and to take a prey, to turn thine hand upon the desolate places that are now inhabited and upon the people who are gathered out of the nations, who have gotten cattle and goods, who dwell in the midst of the land.13 Sheba and Dedan and the merchants of Tarshish, with all the young lions thereof, shall say unto thee, “Art thou come to despoil us? Hast thou gathered thy company to take a prey, to carry away silver and gold, to take away cattle and goods, to take a great spoil?”’14 “Therefore, son of man, prophesy and say unto Gog, ‘Thus saith the Lord God: On that day when My people of Israel dwelleth safely, shalt thou not know it?15 And thou shalt come from thy place out of the north parts, thou and many people with thee, all of them riding upon horses, a great company and a mighty army.16 And thou shalt come up against My people of Israel as a cloud to cover the land. It shall be in the latter days; and I will bring thee against My land, that the heathen may know Me when I shall be sanctified in thee, O Gog, before their eyes.17 “‘Thus saith the Lord God: Art thou he of whom I have spoken in old times by My servants the prophets of Israel who prophesied in those days many years that I would bring thee against them?18 And it shall come to pass at the same time when Gog shall come against the land of Israel, saith the Lord God, that My fury shall come upon My face.19 For in My jealousy and in the fire of My wrath have I spoken: Surely on that day there shall be a great shaking in the land of Israel,20 so that the fishes of the sea, and the fowls of the heaven, and the beasts of the field, and all creeping things that creep upon the earth, and all the men that are upon the face of the earth, shall shake at My presence; and the mountains shall be thrown down and the steep places shall fall, and every wall shall fall to the ground.21 And I will call for a sword against him throughout all My mountains, saith the Lord God. Every man’s sword shall be against his brother.22 And I will plead against him with pestilence and with blood; and I will rain upon him and upon his troops and upon the many people that are with him an overflowing rain, and great hailstones, fire, and brimstone.23 Thus will I magnify Myself and sanctify Myself, and I will be known in the eyes of many nations; and they shall know that I am the Lord.’
ezekiel!!!

REVELATION 9:18=A third of mankind was killed by these three plagues, by the fire and the smoke and the brimstone =NUKES!!!
u dont need to be a "rocket scientist" 2 figure that 1 out... (get it)
not actually funny but anyway

THE CAUSE FOR WW111==PSALM 83==Psalm 83:1-583 Keep Thou not silence, O God; hold not Thy peace, and be not still, O God.2 For lo, Thine enemies make a tumult, and they that hate Thee have lifted up the head.3 They have taken crafty counsel against Thy people, and consulted against Thy hidden ones.4 They have said, “Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation, that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance.”5 For they have consulted together with one accord; they are confederate against Thee:
either way God still wins lol
 
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wait what? how exactly is ww3 going to happen any day now? and why? i have not heard of this was there something in the news that lead to this thread?
woow....... dude...... just wow.
iran is allowed 2 build nukes? o_O
thats lyk um... big news....
ehe....
shivers

WHY POST SUCH IGNORANCE!!! SOON I/3 OF MANKIND THAT IS OVER 3BILLION WILL DIE IN WW111
sad

World War 3 is NOT prophesied anywhere in the Bible. Please put down Van Impe and Hagee for a while and breathe a breath of fresh air.
Haha, good luck trying to prove that. The Bible is 3 4ths prophesy, but I'm sure you knew that BI chica (pats ur back ... walks off, takes a bite out of the bible... mmm delicious...)

GOD'S WORD OF PROPHECY IS TRUTH NOT PARANOIA. GOD WANTS HIS PEOPLE TO KNOW AND BE WARNED OF FUTURE EVENTS. KEEP LOOKING UP JESUS IS ABOUT TO RETURN!!! BE READY!
Amen!!!


Don't get wrapped up in the paranoia. It's not worth it. Revelation is meant to give people hope--not put them in despair!
Nah......
Hope is meant for God's children
Not for satanists...... and rebellious back-slidden ppl
ppl must repent
turn or burn or hellfire
aint not pretty way of saying it
how many ppl r going 2 have time to wear make-up in hell (ah.... none... right answer!)

Would make a great book.
hat is basically it in a nutshell
our job is to get a relationship of love for God.
No one can touch you when God is in love with you
and you are his bride.
He is awesome he has everything under control
when the roundup all the Jews for the concentration camps
we are supposed to volunteer and go with them, for only the ones in the camps will survive the mess and sicial breakdown (we are protected by the wires of the camps while society comes apart
then the angels let us out
you can drink the water in the camp but do not eat the food! we will be there for ten days....
you can do it, practice eating less and fasting, ten days not so long
false gospel alert
if u not suffering persecution and tribulation then u not witnessing 2 ppl about Jesus
tribulation is a sure thing
ppl will touch u a lot.
dont let any1 deceive u
Jesus is not a tupperware party btw

The enemy will make events happen
false flag nuc attack
hundreds of cities get nuked
mister false christ comes down to stop the war HE STARTED
and says we need a world religion of peace with ME at the head
And of course, the Jews wont do it
so they pass a law to try and kill Jews again
that is typical.
The lady will say you are either for us or against us!(world religion sunday false worship)
and then if you dont take the RFID Sunday!
they will put you in a camp to TRY to kill you and the Jews (again).
but fear not
God will steps in
God gets mad
real mad this time
:)
Supervolcano!
read Amos and Zephania and Habakkuk
All nations come apart.
nothing left
should never try to kill the Jews, that is big error.
that NEVER works.
Ye, I started gettin in2 the politics history of wats going on in the east
sometimes don't have tym to check it out, but it just gets worse and worse
its always the same, they want more land, more weapons...... 2 kill the jews..... retarded...... dont they read the bible?

anyway lol....... ye

Have I ever told the story on CC, about a cousin of mine who got wrapped up in end times theories and a minister told him the world was about to end? Well, long story short when he was driving home from the meeting with this minister he ended up having a panic attack. He had a car accident and died. This was in 1988, and the world is still turning. Thanks to this false prophet my cousin brainwashed him and played on his emotions and naivety and he lost his life.
So in case anyone wonders why I am not quick to believe these predictions it is because I know first hand how dangerous and literally deadly they can be.
with all do respect to those who lost that individual, but that is an isolated event... Elizabeth...
shame on u
revelations verse 3, chapter 1 promises us a blessing 4 shedding that knowledge....
just bcus sum dude who hates ppl wu r informed about the times tells us prophecy is bad does not mean we follow him.
just bcus ppl hate God and call themselves Christian, does not mean they are worthy of being Christians

b4 u get involved
repent of ur TV worship sinner

My wiper blade broke today...that must mean something...?
ye, get urself a new wiper, and while ur at it, read ur bible, im sure there's plenty dust on there to write with ur finger "ive been bad"

SOmeone only has to break wind in the middle east in order for some end timer to declare its the prelude to war against Israel.
ye 22 states, and how many hundreds of different agendas. only God's preventing that pot from boiling over......
its just amazing how many ppl call it paranoi tho... seriously retarded.... its not paranoia...... it's flipping Thank You Jesus for holding back the battle axes and machine guns...... these ppl wanna take the Jews out man..... ppl wake up. stop being stupid....... read ur bible........ thousands of years of antisemitism...... and u think it would stop...... oh pls, read ur bible and repent b4 u start reading.....

To the OP, Christians making idols of paranoia. Nothing to see here.

Oh Lord, some ppl never learn....


I can't help but think, what if it was yesterday...

Why does only fear of death make me want to live more for God...

Why is it never love from my blessings that gives me the most fuel... But fear that fills my tank...

Unrepentance. u hav 2 repent man every day. God wont give u power. u hav 2 take God serious. this is serious stuff man.

WW111 ANYDAY NOW?? NUKES TO BE USED IN THE HOLYLAND!==12 Now this will be the plague with which the Lord will strike all the peoples who have gone to war against Jerusalem; their flesh will rot(MELT) while they stand on their feet, and their eyes will rot in their sockets, and their tongue will rot in their mouth. 13 It will come about in that day that a great panic from the Lord will fall on them; and they will seize one another’s hand, and the hand of one will be lifted against the hand of another.

Yep, when they finished with Jews and Christians, turn against each other...
thats the end result of self-worship and a bloated ego ppl
dont worship ur own words
follow the words of the Bible