Where's this so called "holy land" and if it's holy what man has a right to claim it?

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Mosus

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Where's this so called "holy land" and if it's holy what man has a right to claim it?

I love this so called holy land myth and the chosen few deemed worthy enough to be given it on the blood of women children and an entire people in the name of the lord. Nobody else here sees the evil done in God's holy name for this dusty dessert we all will return to in the end? Was that one s or two? Spelling's not my strong suit and spell checks to hard. lol. The jews returning to their holy home, which was initially claimed on the blood of women and children at the request of their loving God, did so the same way that got them kicked out of it in the first place. How ironic they should return "home" the same way the Nazi's did unto them, by brute force and murderous treachery, terrorism. If any of you or they think their souls will or should be saved by there location on this God forsaken planet, go to Israel and reap your rewards. For he comes in his name as we come in his name. Any soul that ties itself to any ground here shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven. It's not the ground that is holy it's supposed to be the souls that are holy, not bloody in the name of the lord. shalom
 
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Mosus

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nobody will defend the holy land? I don't blame you. I wouldn't either seeing how it was claimed.
 
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Isa.60
[18] Violence shall no more be heard in your (spiritual) land,
nor wasting nor destruction within your borders;
but you (Apostles and converts) shall call your (protective) walls Salvation (in Christ),
and call your gates Praise >> (to GOD and Christ)
[19] The sun (Jewish false teachers) shall no longer be your light (illuminator) by day
neither for brightness shall the moon (Jewish false teachers) give light to you
but the LORD (Jesus) shall be an everlasting light to you,
and your God (Jesus, shall be) your glory.
[20] Your sun (Jesus) shall no longer go down;
neither shall your moon (Jesus) withdraw itself (himself):
for the LORD (Jesus) shall be your everlasting light, (illuminator)
and the days of your mourning (for righteousness) shall be ended.
[21] Also all of your, (the Apostles') people shall all righteous.
They shall inherit the land for ever,
the branch of my planting, the work of my hands (the Apostles),
so that I (the Father) may be glorified >> (gleefully praised and liberally thanked.).
[22] A little one (12 Apostles) shall become a thousand, and a small one (Apostles) a strong nation:
I the LORD will hasten (the Father will add converts to) it (the Apostles)
during the Aposltes' time.

Jesus and the joint-owners of the land will be back in great fanfare >> :)

GOD ensured that the good guys prevailed. We wll LOVE them... :)
 
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Mosus

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thanks for that reply.
 
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To Mosus , You must live in a make believe world, you certainly don't accept this real world of blood and guts that God has made. The things that are ,are the things of Gods making, like it or not, it is a dog eat dog world,you must defend yourself or the evil prople will eat you up and spit you out as trash. You are out of touch with reality. OK, I too, hate the reality I see, If I were God for aday, I would do, or have done things, differently. I would never have made Evil, only good. BUT, so much for the dream world. We live in the world of God's own making; I suggest you accept the evil God does and also receive the good God has showered upon us, physically and spiritually. The Bible is God's book, you need to read it as your ownly hope. Love is found in Jesus, Hoffco
 
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Isn't the Holy Land in a spiritual world, in the realm of God? And what right does man to "claim" it? None, and even when gifted it wouldn't be given to any individual who should "claim" it, but to those who receive the privilege of being able to live in it would live in harmony, freely together with no ownership as such because there would be no need for possessions.
 
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This is so mixed up, most of the thinking done here is mixing reasons for events so badly, it needs taking history from the day of creation to get it in line with truth.

The world was dark in the sense of ignorant, misery, false until God created light, in the sense of peace, goodness, etc. This light was what the garden of Eden was about, then man decided to know evil. God still wanted "light" for us, and most of the bible is instructions on how we can live in this light and not have evil.

Man doesn't listen to God very much. The earth was such a violent miserable place to live that God started over with the flood. It was getting that way again, with governments so wicked they killed babies and said it was for some statues they made. God then created a race of people with Abraham the father, sent them to Egypt where the food was good so they would multiply. Then God gave them a land of their own to live in. It is called the Holy Land, not because the dirt of the ground is holy, but because it is the place God gave them to live. God does not want evil for us, God directs us toward good.

Now, you have to read the Old Testament from Moses on to see what happened and how this special race developed. If you go into history and read the constitutions of the gentile race and compare it to the way bible says God wanted this people to live, you will see the difference.

Something you need to keep in mind during all this study I am suggesting is that to be alive spiritually means that you have eternal life, it isn't just the time spent here on earth. Many people on earth are spiritually dead and there is no hope they can learn enough of God to become alive. That was true of the people who lived in the land given to the Jews. You can check me out on this by going into history for how they lived at the time and what their government was like that they lived under.
 
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