Mark of the Beast.

[gotime]

Point 1 The bible never says that 666 is the mark. 666 is one of the many identifying characteristics of the beast who gives the mark.

Rev 13:15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

Here we are told an image of the beast/kingdom power would be set up and would force people to worship it or die.
sound familiar?



Dan 3:1 Nebuchadnezzar the king made an image of gold, whose height was threescore cubits, and the breadth thereof six cubits: he set it up in the plain of Dura, in the province of Babylon.

Nebuchadnezzar makes an image with dimensions involving the number 6 interesting. Threescore=60 a score is 20.

anyway read the story He makes a law that everyone should worship the image or die. but three refuse because its against Gods law. have a read God saves them for standing up for his law over mans law.

Why does God give John imagery from Daniel? because the same thing is going to happen in the end. a nation will make a law which goes against Gods law and anyone who obeys this man made law over Gods will take the mark.

where does the mark go?

Rev 14:9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
Rev 14:10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:


hand and forehead, in Hebrew mind setting this refers to the actions/hand and the belief/mind notice its "or" it does not have to be both. you can believe the truth yet act the lie or do the truth yet believe the lie either or receives the mark.

what then would be Gods mark?

well if in Daniel the mark was Idolatry from the king, then to not receive the mark would be not to commit adultery or keep Gods law.

Notice this text from the book of the law concerning the 10 commandments in the chapter prior.

Deu 6:8 And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thine hand, and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes.

wow same places, hand and forehead. this lines up with Daniel. the commandments of God are to be in our mind and our actions.



Dan 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.


I have not explained everything nor filled in the gaps Ill leave that to you.

 

[overcomer2]

I agree 666 is not how we will know the anti-christ ( I believe he will be revealed) however, I believe this identifying mark is a witness once he is revealed.

 

[Gjolll]

A person has the mark of the beast when they recognize that the supreme law is the law of antichrist, or secular law. I agree with your reference to Deu 6:8. The parallel is also to be found in the Old Testament, where the Israelites were given instructions to be a sign on "your hand and a reminder on your forehead that this law of the LORD is to be on your lips" (Ex 13;9).

666 - there are many theories but the one I like best is that is represents the numbers of all the gods in the Babylonian idol system. Each of the 36 gods had a number 1 to 36. When added together they come to 666. 666 denotes the multiplicity of the idols of antichrist. The "number of his name" thus denotes the name of an idol that is antithetical to Christ. In other words, the beast does not bear the name of Christ but that of pagan idols.

 

[iamsoandso]

[h=1]Against Heresies (Book V, Chapter 29)[/h] All things have been created for the service of man. The deceits, wickedness, and apostate power of Antichrist. This was prefigured at the deluge, as afterwards by the persecution of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego. 1. In the previous books I have set forth the causes for which God permitted these things to be made, and have pointed out that all such have been created for the benefit of that human nature which is saved, ripening for immortality that which is [possessed] of its own free will and its own power, and preparing and rendering it more adapted for eternal subjection to God. And therefore the creation is suited to [the wants of] man; for man was not made for its sake, but creation for the sake of man. Those nations however, who did not of themselves raise up their eyes unto heaven, nor returned thanks to their Maker, nor wished to behold the light of truth, but who were like blind mice concealed in the depths of ignorance, the word justly reckons as waste water from a sink, and as the turning-weight of a balance— in fact, as nothing; Isaiah 40:15 so far useful and serviceable to the just, as stubble conduces towards the growth of the wheat, and its straw, by means of combustion, serves for working gold. And therefore, when in the end the Church shall be suddenly caught up from this, it is said, There shall be tribulation such as has not been since the beginning, neither shall be. Matthew 24:21 For this is the last contest of the righteous, in which, when they overcome they are crowned with incorruption.
2. And there is therefore in this beast, when he comes, a recapitulation made of all sorts of iniquity and of every deceit, in order that all apostate power, flowing into and being shut up in him, may be sent into the furnace of fire. Fittingly, therefore, shall his name possess the number six hundred and sixty-six, since he sums up in his own person all the commixture of wickedness which took place previous to the deluge, due to the apostasy of the angels. For Noah was six hundred years old when the deluge came upon the earth, sweeping away the rebellious world, for the sake of that most infamous generation which lived in the times of Noah. And [Antichrist] also sums up every error of devised idols since the flood, together with the slaying of the prophets and the cutting off of the just. For that image which was set up by Nebuchadnezzar had indeed a height of sixty cubits, while the breadth was six cubits; on account of which Ananias, Azarias, and Misaël, when they did not worship it, were cast into a furnace of fire, pointing out prophetically, by what happened to them, the wrath against the righteous which shall arise towards the [time of the] end. For that image, taken as a whole, was a prefiguring of this man's coming, decreeing that he should undoubtedly himself alone be worshipped by all men. Thus, then, the six hundred years of Noah, in whose time the deluge occurred because of the apostasy, and the number of the cubits of the image for which these just men were sent into the fiery furnace, do indicate the number of the name of that man in whom is concentrated the whole apostasy of six thousand years, and unrighteousness, and wickedness, and false prophecy, and deception; for which things' sake a cataclysm of fire shall also come [upon the earth].

 

[Mark51]

In his inspired Word, God provides the needed clues with regard to the number 666, the name, or mark, of the wild beast of Revelation, Chapter 13.

Consider the following four main lines of reasoning-vital clues-that will reveal the meaning of the mark of the beast: (1) how Bible names are sometimes chosen, (2) the identity of the wild beast, (3) what is meant by 666 being “a man’s number,” and (4) the significance of the number 6 and why it is written in triple digits, namely, 600 plus 60 plus 6, or 666.-Revelation 13:18.

Bible names often have special significance, particularly when given by God. For example, because Abram would become the father of nations, God changed the patriarch’s name to Abraham, meaning “Father of a Multitude.” (Genesis 17:5) God told Joseph and Mary to call Mary’s future child Jesus, which means “Jehovah Is Salvation.”-Matthew 1:21; Luke 1:31.

The Bible book of Daniel sheds much light on the meaning of symbolic beasts. Chapter 7 contains a vivid tableau of “four huge beasts”-a lion, a bear, a leopard, and a fearsome beast with big teeth of iron. (Daniel 7:2-7) Daniel tells us that these beasts represent “kings,” or political kingdoms, that rule in succession over vast empires.-Daniel 7:17, 23.

Accordingly, the God-given number-name 666 must symbolize what God sees as defining attributes of the beast. Naturally, to understand those traits, one needs to identify the beast itself and learn about its activities.

Regarding the beast of Revelation 13:1, 2, The Interpreter’s Dictionary of the Bible points out that it “combines in itself the joint characteristics of the four beasts of Daniel’s vision…. Accordingly, this first beast [of Revelation] represents the combined forces of all political rule opposed to God in the world.” This observation is affirmed by Revelation 13:7, which says of the beast: “Authority was given it over every tribe and people and tongue and nation.”

The Bible use beasts as symbols of human rulership for at least two reasons. First, because of the beastly record of bloodshed that governments have accrued over the centuries. (Ecclesiastes 8:9) The second reason is that “the dragon [Satan] gave to the beast its power and its throne and great authority.” (Revelation 12:9; 13:2) Accordingly, human rulership is a product of the Devil, thus reflecting his beastly, dragonlike disposition.-John 8:44; Ephesians 6:12.

A third clue to the meaning of 666 lies in its being “a man’s number,” or as “a human number.” This expression could not refer to an individual human, for Satan-not any man-has authority over the beast. (Luke 4:5, 6; 1 John 5:19; Revelation 13:2, 18) Rather, the beast’s having “a human number,” or mark, suggests that it is a human entity, not spirit or demon, and that it therefore manifests certain human traits. (Romans 3:23) The beast’s having “a human number,” therefore, indicates that governments reflect the fallen human condition, the mark of sin and imperfection.

In the Scriptures, certain numbers have symbolic significance. The number seven, for example, is often used to symbolize that which is complete, or perfect, in God’s eyes. For instance, God’s creative week comprises seven ‘days,’ or extended time periods, during which God completely accomplishes his creative purpose regarding the earth. (Genesis 1:3-2:3) God’s “sayings” are like silver that has been “clarified seven times,” thus perfectly refined. (Psalm 12:6; Proverbs 30:5, 6) The leper Naaman was told to bathe seven times in the Jordan River, after which he was completely healed.-2 Kings 5:10, 14.

Six is one short of seven. It is a fitting symbol of something imperfect, or defective, in God’s eyes. (1 Chronicles 20:6, 7) Moreover, six repeated three times, as 666, powerfully stresses that imperfection. That this is the correct view is supported by the fact that 666 is “a human number,” as we have considered. Thus, the beast’s record, its “human number,” and the number 666 itself all point to one unmistakable conclusion-gross shortcoming and failure in the eyes of Jehovah.

“The mark,” whether on the right hand or on the forehead, figuratively speaking, is a symbol that identifies its bearer as one who gives worshipful support to the beastlike political systems of the world. Those having the mark give to “Caesar” that which rightly belongs to God. (Luke 20:25; Revelation 13:4, 8; 14:1) By giving worshipful honor to the political state, its symbols, and its military might, to which they look for hope and salvation. Any worship that they render the true God is merely lip service.

In contrast, the Bible urges us: “Do not put your trust in nobles, nor in the son of earthling man, to whom no salvation belongs. His spirit goes out; he goes back to his ground; in that day his thoughts do perish.” (Psalm 146:3, 4) Those who heed that wise counsel are not disillusioned when governments fail to deliver on their promises or when charismatic leaders fall from grace.-Proverbs 1:33.
　
　

 

[2Thewaters]

The mark prevents people from buying and selling
If you take it you can buy or sell
If you dont take it you cant buy or sell.

Being spiritual or not spiritualwill not limit you from buying or selling

Also it will be implemented for one reason
to kill the people not taking it
read the whole chapter
those who worship in the HUGE religion will get the mark
the few who refuse will be targets

Does anyone know of a device that will have the ability to give you an ID to buy or sell?

simple

you forget it is not just the mark

Rev 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

There is the mark of the Beast
There is the number of the beast
there is the name of the beast
there is the image of the beast

these are four different things

I know what they are because I read it and looked up each one

lets see if you can figure it out.

 

[Jmess]

The mark prevents people from buying and selling
If you take it you can buy or sell.

If you dont take it you cant buy or sell.

Being spiritual or not spiritualwill not limit you from buying or selling

Also it will be implemented for one reason
to kill the people not taking it
read the whole chapter
those who worship in the HUGE religion will get the mark
the few who refuse will be targets

Does anyone know of a device that will have the ability to give you an ID to buy or sell?

simple

you forget it is not just the mark

Rev 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

There is the mark of the Beast
There is the number of the beast
there is the name of the beast
there is the image of the beast

these are four different things

I know what they are because I read it and looked up each one

lets see if you can figure it out.

In our studies we have concluded that it will be a widely acceped mark with great deception upon current christians. And the mark of Tamus being the Cross very well could be the mark of the beast that will appear on your hand or forhead when you worship the Beast.

 

[FireHeart]

Ya I have heard ppl say the mark is a spiritual thing not physical, but then why must it be either on our forehead or right arm? I mean I can sort of get the forehead part as it symbolizes our mind but the right arm? why not left arm or something? and how will the ppl know who has this mark if it is a spiritual mark? will ppl suddenly have eyes that can see into your heart?
Also I think that 666 is important, whether 666 is the literal mark you take or not it wouldnt be in the bible if we werent supposed to pay close attention to it. I actually have seen many ppl take the number 666 on their right arms from an occult person who claims to be the messiah saying he does greater things than Jesus did

 

[Jmess]

In our studies we have concluded that it will be a widely acceped mark with great deception upon current christians. And the mark of Tamus being the Cross very well could be the mark of the beast that will appear on your hand or forhead when you worship the Beast.

That which is now called the Christian cross was originally no Christian emblem at all, but was the mystic Tau of the Chaldeans and Egyptians--the true original form of the letter T--the initial of the name of Tammuz--which, in Hebrew, radically the same as ancient Chaldee, was found on coins, was formed as in No. 1 of the accompanying woodcut (Fig. 43); and in Etrurian and Coptic, as in Nos. 2 and 3. That mystic Tau was marked in baptism on the foreheads of those initiated in the Mysteries, * and was used in every variety of way as a most sacred symbol.

 

[FireHeart]

That which is now called the Christian cross was originally no Christian emblem at all, but was the mystic Tau of the Chaldeans and Egyptians--the true original form of the letter T--the initial of the name of Tammuz--which, in Hebrew, radically the same as ancient Chaldee, was found on coins, was formed as in No. 1 of the accompanying woodcut (Fig. 43); and in Etrurian and Coptic, as in Nos. 2 and 3. That mystic Tau was marked in baptism on the foreheads of those initiated in the Mysteries, * and was used in every variety of way as a most sacred symbol.

you do realize Jesus died on a cross right?

 

[Jmess]

The Two Babylons - The Sign of the Cross - Alexander Hislop

 

[blue_ladybug]

I sincerely believe that there are MANY anti-christ's on this earth right now. I believe (and this is jmo so NO HATING on me, lol) that Obummer is one of those anti-christ's. I believe that the pope is an anti-christ as well. As for the mark of the beast, some think it is the RFID chip. I honestly dont know what it is going to be. I wish the bible was a little more clear on that subject.

As to FireHeart's comment, "how will the ppl know who has this mark if it is a spiritual mark? Will ppl suddenly have eyes that can see into your heart"? I believe (and again this is JMO) that our eyes WILL be opened so that we will be able to tell the difference between the believers and the unbelievers. Somewhere in the bible, I dont remember where exactly, it says we "look through a mirror darkly." That means in the dark, what you see is distorted into something different, kind of like the room of mirrors that distort your features when you go to the funhouse at a theme park. But once the veil lifts from our eyes, we will be able to see clearly through that mirror and nothing will be distorted any longer.

 

[Jmess]

you do realize Jesus died on a cross right?

Yes i do. He shed his blood and died for us. He was hung on a pagan cross they used as a symbol. I worship the Lord Jesus Christ not the cross he was hung on. To me that would be as looking to the cross the same way it was worshiped as the Sun god Tamus.

 

[Jmess]

Yes i do. He shed his blood and died for us. He was hung on a pagan cross they used as a symbol. I worship the Lord Jesus Christ not the cross he was hung on. To me that would be as looking to the cross the same way it was worshiped as the Sun god Tamus.

What most people do not fully realize is that Satan has deceived this whole world (Revelation 12:9). Many of the comfortable, familiar customs and traditions of this world have, indeed, been borrowed from rank paganism and have nothing at all to do with true Christianity. God tells us to prove all things (I Thessalonians 5:21). Before we accept any practice, we should always inquire into its origins. We must assure ourselves that it does not transgress any of God's laws and that it follows the traditions and practices of the early New Testament church.

 

[Jmess]

It was not till the time of Constantine that the cross was publicly used as the symbol of the Christian religion. Till then its employment had been restricted, and private among the Christians themselves. Under Constantine it became the acknowledged symbol of Christianity. . . . Constantine's action was no doubt influenced by the vision which he believed he saw of the cross in the sky with the accompanying words en toutw nika [by this conquer], as well as by the story of the discovery of the true cross by his mother St. Helena in the year 326.

 

[Jmess]

Discernment thru Prayer and the Holy Ghost and Gods Grace will give us the strenght to see clearly when these times are before us. Thank You Jesus for being our Eternal Savior!!!!

Deuteronomy 12:30-31 KJV

Take heed to thyself that thou be not snared by following them, after that they be destroyed from before thee; and that thou enquire not after their gods, saying, How did these nations serve their gods? even so will I do likewise. Thou shalt not do so unto the Lord thy God: for every abomination to the Lord , which he hateth, have they done unto their gods; for even their sons and their daughters they have burnt in the fire to their gods.

 

[oldhermit]

I would be interested to know where in scripture you find 666 used in connection with "Antichrist.'

 

[dcontroversal]

Yes i do. He shed his blood and died for us. He was hung on a pagan cross they used as a symbol. I worship the Lord Jesus Christ not the cross he was hung on. To me that would be as looking to the cross the same way it was worshiped as the Sun god Tamus.

I get what you are saying here, but did not Paul write...that if he was going to glory that he would glory in the CROSS of CHRIST...what do you suppose he meant by that?

 

[dcontroversal]

I would be interested to know where in scripture you find 666 used in connection with "Antichrist.'

I sometimes wonder if the identification process identifies the lost as completely (earthy) as in body, mind and soul tied to the 6th day of creation when man was made...Fleshly as opposed to being born of the spirit.....as flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of God...NOT SAYING I believe this, but is an interesting concept that I have pondered.......

 

[chiefofdisciples]

Cast down the strongholds of your imaginations saints of the Most High God. The mark was about property and currency and greed. The mark of the beast is called a fleurdelis. The symbol of the Boy scouts of America n New Orleans. It had meaning biblically during the 17th century. Each country use different money France and England had this symbol on money and government property. A Merchants mark or what we call today a Trademark . Here is wisdom; the fleurdelis was the national symbol for France n those times. It was also the cadency mark of the sixth son. Sixth to become king. Here is understanding; n 1376 king Charles the wise reduced the number of fleurdelis on the French flag n coat of arms to three n honor of the Holy Trinity. Each representing six this is the 666 Apostle John saw n his vision Rev 13:18. And how this was the number of a man because Charles being a Christian name means a man or fellow by definition. But he was not the beast. During the17th century the beast used this mark as his own. For he was the government. Judgement on those that received the mark began 1618 and was fulfilled n 1692. Ask God then search it out. Peace and blessings