Neat discovery about 12,000

[RedTent]

May I suggest that you look at what the words say and mean, and not waste time looking for hidden meaning in the numbers. That plus looking for hidden symbolic numerical clues to date the Second Coming, has led many a False Prophet to come crashing down. The latest of which was Harold Camping.

Numerology, The Secret Behind Numbers, Numbers Our Pathway To Truth, Musical Numerology, Christian Numerology used by almost all False Prophets, Karma Numerology, 777 Revival Movement, etc., etc. THOSE ARE KNOWN CULTS, why would you ever want to put on the appearance of evil, by copy-catting what the CULTS do?

HERE is GOD's example of how we are to Study the Bible.

LOSE the Cult Characteristic of chasing after secret meanings in numbers. PLEASE!

We look at numbers as a link between the physical and spiritual because that is often the way God communicates His spiritual principles to our human minds. That is not saying we look at numbers as having spiritual power in themselves, only God has power.

I don't think it is right for you to tell God He may not communicate with us in that way!! You are to obey God, it doesn't go the other way around.

 

[VCO]

Thomas Nelson publishing is owned by Zondervan who also publishes porn.

Before 1979 when the NKJV came out, Led Zepplin was using this occult symbol on their pagan records:

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It's an old occult symbol like the heart you use


Don't be a hypocrite: Abstain from all appearance of evil

Besides you should know this:
Act_17:29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.

[h=2]Christian Symbols Illustrated Glossary[/h]By Mary Fairchild

The Triquetra symbol represents the trinity.
[h=4][/h]

Trinity (Triquetra)
Images © Sue Chastain

There are many symbols of the trinity in Christianity. The Triquetra is a three-part interlocking fish symbol that symbolizes the Christian trinity. The word "trinity" comes from the Latin noun "trinitas" meaning "three are one." The trinity represents the belief that God is one Being made up of three distinct Persons who exist in co-equal, co-eternal communion as the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. The following verses express the concept of the trinity: Matthew 3:16-17; Matthew 28:19; John 14:16-17; 2 Corinthians 13:14; Acts 2:32-33; John 10:30; John 17:11&21.

ALSO SEE:

Rudolf Koch: Christian Symbols

Christian Symbols - ReligionFacts

Christian Symbols and their Meaning | Eslkevin's Blog


You believe whatever you want, and I will believe what the USER means by them.

 

[VCO]

We look at numbers as a link between the physical and spiritual because that is often the way God communicates His spiritual principles to our human minds. That is not saying we look at numbers as having spiritual power in themselves, only God has power.

I don't think it is right for you to tell God He may not communicate with us in that way!! You are to obey God, it doesn't go the other way around.

Would PLEASE look at your opening statement!

THEN do a Google search for: numerology a link between the physical and spiritual

AND see what kind of sites it pulls up.

IF that doesn't scare you out of thinking that Numerology can be applied to the BIBLE, nothing probably will.

What is even scarier is how did your opening statement that I changed to bold print and underlined, come to MATCH IDENTICALLY to what the CULTS publish on their webpages.

 

[KJV1611]

miktre, you and I maybe 2 or 3 more people on this forum understand symbolism. Come to think of it, it's only the ones that read the KJV lol.

Excellent post on the NKJV! I will reiterate for all those that think the triquetra symbolizes the Godhead.

Act_17:29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.

Satan is a beast... and just like every earthly beast marks his territory, Satan does too. The triquetra is Satan's mark on the NKJV.

 

[KJV1611]

Maybe this will help VCO.

 

[RedTent]

Would PLEASE look at your opening statement!

THEN do a Google search for: numerology a link between the physical and spiritual

AND see what kind of sites it pulls up.

IF that doesn't scare you out of thinking that Numerology can be applied to the BIBLE, nothing probably will.

What is even scarier is how did your opening statement that I changed to bold print and underlined, come to MATCH IDENTICALLY to what the CULTS publish on their webpages.

No, I am not about to go to websites giving numerology, saying numbers are a powerful force. I go to the bible, saying God is a powerful source. God uses numbers to tell me about Him. That is good enough for me. If you don't know that God used what happened in physical history to explain spiritual concepts, I am sorry for you. So you keep your cults, I will keep my beloved Lord. And no, I am not afraid of what God tells me.

 

[VCO]

Maybe this will help VCO.

No 666 is not a symbol, it is only a number that identifies a man, IT SAYS SO, read it again.

In other words it is similar to our Social Security numbers. Only this one will be three groups of 6 digits. Henry Kissenger invented such a EMERGENCY plan in the late 90s, in case the perceived Y2K world wide banking crash actually happened. Since it is the computer age, it probably will be a number imbedded in a very small microchip or biochip as they want to call those designed for humans. They are already testing the (RFID) Radio Frequency Identification Devices in humans in Florida. In particular, for Seniors with Alzheimer's to store the health records on. Instead of the chip that was about twice the size of a grain of rice, like the one in my dog's neck; they have now shrunk the RFID down to not a whole lot bigger than a grain of salt. I posted the following on another site a couple years ago, so the technology is even more advanced now. I only added the bottom video link.

WHAT IS THE MARK OF THE BEAST

The most likely thing the Mark of the Beast could be is a biochip implant, because of the Biblical statement that one will not be able to buy or sell anything without it. They currently have built into them up to a 15 digit ID numbering system. It will not surprise me, (if the Church is still here), when the Antichrist comes to power as the Head of State of the old Roman Empire; that he averts a world wide economic collapse by converting all of the worlds monitary systems to these biochips. AND watch him add three digits to those Biochip IDs, such as: 123456-123456-123456. Hence his number will be 666 (6 digits dash 6 digits dash 6 digits). Also of the Techs working on these super computers that they believe we are going to need in the near future, have jokingly referred to their super computers as the "beast"; but I am not laughing.

HERE IS THE RFID MICROCHIP TV ADVERT 100% PROOF IT IS HERE - YouTube

IBM RFID Commercial - The Future Market - YouTube

Hitachi Releases 2.5mm C1G2 Durable RFID Tag - YouTube

Under Your SkinThe War against Freedom – Human Biochip Implant

Microchip Implants

Bio-chip implant arrives for cashless transactions

Walmart Introduces 666 Obamacare RFID Chip Machine - YouTube

 

[KJV1611]

No 666 is not a symbol, it is only a number that identifies a man, IT SAYS SO, read it again.

In other words it is similar to our Social Security numbers. Only this one will be three groups of 6 digits. Henry Kissenger invented such a EMERGENCY plan in the late 90s, in case the perceived Y2K world wide banking crash actually happened. Since it is the computer age, it probably will be a number imbedded in a very small microchip or biochip as they want to call those designed for humans. They are already testing the (RFID) Radio Frequency Identification Devices in humans in Florida. In particular, for Seniors with Alzheimer's to store the health records on. Instead of the chip that was about twice the size of a grain of rice, like the one in my dog's neck; they have now shrunk the RFID down to not a whole lot bigger than a grain of salt. I posted the following on another site a couple years ago, so the technology is even more advanced now. I only added the bottom video link.

WHAT IS THE MARK OF THE BEAST

The most likely thing the Mark of the Beast could be is a biochip implant, because of the Biblical statement that one will not be able to buy or sell anything without it. They currently have built into them up to a 15 digit ID numbering system. It will not surprise me, (if the Church is still here), when the Antichrist comes to power as the Head of State of the old Roman Empire; that he averts a world wide economic collapse by converting all of the worlds monitary systems to these biochips. AND watch him add three digits to those Biochip IDs, such as: 123456-123456-123456. Hence his number will be 666 (6 digits dash 6 digits dash 6 digits). Also of the Techs working on these super computers that they believe we are going to need in the near future, have jokingly referred to their super computers as the "beast"; but I am not laughing.

HERE IS THE RFID MICROCHIP TV ADVERT 100% PROOF IT IS HERE - YouTube

IBM RFID Commercial - The Future Market - YouTube

Hitachi Releases 2.5mm C1G2 Durable RFID Tag - YouTube

Under Your SkinThe War against Freedom – Human Biochip Implant

Microchip Implants

Bio-chip implant arrives for cashless transactions

Walmart Introduces 666 Obamacare RFID Chip Machine - YouTube

So you're comfortable with reading a bible that has 666 stamped on the cover... hmmm.

 

[VCO]

Christian Symbols Illustrated Glossary

By Mary Fairchild

The Triquetra symbol represents the trinity.

Trinity (Triquetra)
Images © Sue Chastain

There are many symbols of the trinity in Christianity. The Triquetra is a three-part interlocking fish symbol that symbolizes the Christian trinity. The word "trinity" comes from the Latin noun "trinitas" meaning "three are one." The trinity represents the belief that God is one Being made up of three distinct Persons who exist in co-equal, co-eternal communion as the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. The following verses express the concept of the trinity: Matthew 3:16-17; Matthew 28:19; John 14:16-17; 2 Corinthians 13:14; Acts 2:32-33; John 10:30; John 17:11&21.

ALSO SEE:

Rudolf Koch: Christian Symbols

Christian Symbols - ReligionFacts

Christian Symbols and their Meaning | Eslkevin's Blog


You believe whatever you want, and I will believe what the USER means by them.

Since you do not like my GOD and Country Avatar, HOW about picking one of these:

 

[VCO]

So you're comfortable with reading a bible that has 666 stamped on the cover... hmmm.

No I am comfortable reading it BECAUSE I know your theories are full of mud. Plus you are blinded by KJV ONLY bigotry that has be taught to you and is as unbiblical as it can get. Sorry, but that is definitely the way I see it. By the way, my NKJV that I bought a couple years ago and carry to Church, does not have that symbol on it, even though it was made by NELSON Publishing. I was actually disappointed that the CHRISTIAN Triquetra was not there, because my first KJV did have it on the binding, not the front cover. You had better read my posts on what the 666 really is in reality, instead of continually spreading falsehoods invented by KJV ONLY bigots. Since you did not answer my question, I will assume you really do believe the KJV is inspired by GOD. And surely you know NONE OF THE BIBLE WRITERS that GOD chose could read and write in English. Better read your Churches doctrinal statement of faith again. I would be very surprised if it does not say something like:

We believe that the Bible was all inspired by GOD in it's original manuscripts.


The KJV is NOT an original manuscript, IT IS A TRANSLATION from manuscripts that were not the originals, just copies of copies, JUST LIKE every Bible on the Planet. WHY? NONE of the original manuscripts exist anymore, or AT LEAST NONE OF THOSE HAND WRITTEN MANUSCRIPTS HAVE EVER BEEN FOUND. So WHY the new translations? Because the English in the King James was outdated and they had found older manuscripts than were used for the King James.

NOW those are the real facts.

 

[VCO]

Thomas Nelson publishing is owned by Zondervan who also publishes porn.
. . .

Caught you in another made up KJV ONLY falsehood: Zondervan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Zondervan is one of our Evangelical Publishing Houses.

So is it common practice for KJV ONLY Zelots to make up lies to discredit other Translations of the Bible?

If so, you know who is the father of all lies.

 

[VCO]

. . . since you use the heart symbol in your avatar . . .

Now don't get your hopes up, the change in my Avatar had nothing to do with your post. I have been using that heart and cross Avatar for nearly 4 years now, and I have been planning a change for over two weeks, but had not found just the right one. I found this one today today and liked it. Notice the celtic designs on the cover If you do not like this one, I found several more with hearts on them that symbolize love for GOD and Country. Am I a GOD Fearing, Flag waving American Patriot? You bet I am. And I am proud of my four years of service to my Country during the Vietnam Era. I even made SSgt. before I got out of the Air Force. Am I proud of what is happening in American Politics these days, not in the least. Why do I still fly the flag 24/7 - 365 days a year. For our Troops that Serve.

 

[miktre]

Thanks for the reply VCO . The comment was about the heart and the occult symbol on the avatar and NKJV, you kind of took it from there with the patriotism.

Well hope you stick around, I'm going to post some more interesting information about the wonderful numbers God gave us in His word sometime after Christmas.

Remember the next time you read about heaven and read 12,000 as the main dimension, remember it's Christ's perfect life that allowed the price to be paid in full so you get let in!

Peace unto you in Jesus Christ

 

[VCO]

Thanks for the reply VCO . The comment was about the heart and the occult symbol on the avatar and NKJV, you kind of took it from there with the patriotism.

Well hope you stick around, I'm going to post some more interesting information about the wonderful numbers God gave us in His word sometime after Christmas.

Remember the next time you read about heaven and read 12,000 as the main dimension, remember it's Christ's perfect life that allowed the price to be paid in full so you get let in!

Peace unto you in Jesus Christ

My cross with a flag in the heart behind it, ALWAYS was about Love for GOD and Patriotism. I hurts me deeply to see so little of both in the younger generations. Whenever I see them disrespecting the flag, it hurts me personally because I am a VET. That photo that went around the internet a few years ago, describes exactly how I feel. The only one standing anymore when the colors that our troops died for, come down the street in a parade, is the old man in a wheel chair.

Not interested in the numbers, because that is what Harold Camping was into, and you saw where that led him and his followers.

 

[doseofreality]

My cross with a flag in the heart behind it, ALWAYS was about Love for GOD and Patriotism. I hurts me deeply to see so little of both in the younger generations. Whenever I see them disrespecting the flag, it hurts me personally because I am a VET. That photo that went around the internet a few years ago, describes exactly how I feel. The only one standing anymore when the colors that our troops died for, come down the street in a parade, is the old man in a wheel chair.

Not interested in the numbers, because that is what Harold Camping was into, and you saw where that led him and his followers.

I was going to make the same point about Harold Camping, bible numerology can lead to pretty much any conclusion you want...sometimes numbers are just numbers , no special meaning


Sorry but 1 comment about your pic of Bible with Flag .... how do you reconcile the separation of church and state in the constitution, technically American government should be no respecter of any particular religion.

 

[miktre]

My cross with a flag in the heart behind it, ALWAYS was about Love for GOD and Patriotism. I hurts me deeply to see so little of both in the younger generations. Whenever I see them disrespecting the flag, it hurts me personally because I am a VET. That photo that went around the internet a few years ago, describes exactly how I feel. The only one standing anymore when the colors that our troops died for, come down the street in a parade, is the old man in a wheel chair.

Not interested in the numbers, because that is what Harold Camping was into, and you saw where that led him and his followers.

You jump to assumptions way too easily, do you see me date setting? No, and you won't unless God Himself tells me to and whats the odds of that happening?

 

[miktre]

I was going to make the same point about Harold Camping, bible numerology can lead to pretty much any conclusion you want...sometimes numbers are just numbers , no special meaning

You are dead wrong there sir, 12,000 has a very special meaning. Even 666 has meaning to those with wisdom and understanding.

Rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

 

[2Thewaters]

The word of God is infinite...He is very wise

if you took 64 gigabyte SD cards and stacked them up to be the same size of the
great pyramind of Gizza
which is a Yottabyte of data

and then encoded that onto DNA
it would fit in a cube smaller than your cell phone..

Evolution is insane to even think those chips could assemble and program themselves.
Whenever someone speaks of Evolution we need to say
get them behind me satan

 

[2Thewaters]

The data in an average Mouse would take 1000 yottabytes of data storage
with no errors.

 

[miktre]

Caught you in another made up KJV ONLY falsehood: Zondervan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Zondervan is one of our Evangelical Publishing Houses.

So is it common practice for KJV ONLY Zelots to make up lies to discredit other Translations of the Bible?

If so, you know who is the father of all lies.

You sure like making accusations. Let me straighten this out since you seem to be a little too lazy to do your homework. Click on your Zondervan link and you will see the parent company as Harper Collins, same goes with Thomas Nelson.
A quick internet search would of shown you that Harper Collins is a known publisher of porn before you started throwing out false accusations.