Who is Antichrist

[KJV1611]

2Jn 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

Most people that would be considered and antichrist (i.e. the pope) believe that Jesus Christ came in the flesh.
So which flesh is being talked about in 2 John?
Did you know that the bible teaches that Christ came in two types of flesh?

Mat 1:16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.
Psa 69:11 I made sackcloth also my garment; and I became a proverb to them.

Let me explain. Before Jesus came into the world, he was manifest to the world as the Word of God.
When he came into the world, he manifest himself as human flesh.
When he died he put on a sackcloth garment (the garment of death and mourning) and became a proverb (a short pithy saying in general use, stating a general truth or piece of advice.)
Jesus now manifests himself to the world in his sackcloth body - The Word of God... The holy bible.

Joh 6:51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.

We must eat His flesh (the word of God) to live.

Psa 16:10 For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

Do you believe Jesus Christ came in a sackcloth garment?
Do you believe His sackcloth garment saw no corruption?
Do you believe the inerrant Word of God exists today?

 

[Hizikyah]

If any disagree I would appreciate a counter perposal insted of a "thats not right" yet no evidence of the "correct" view.

1 Yahchanan (John) 2:18, "Little children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the Anti- Messiah will come, even now there are many Anti-Messiahs; by this we know that this is the last hour."

Revelation 13:18, "Here is wisdom: Let him who has understanding count the number of the beast; for it is the number of a man. And his number is 666."

Daniyl 8:11-13, "Yes, he magnified himself as high as the Prince of the host; and by him the daily sacrifices were taken away, and the place of the sanctuary was cast down. And a host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practiced, and succeeded. Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said to the one that spoke: How long will be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, the setting up of The Abomination of Desolation (Lord of Heaven), and the surrender of the sanctuary, and the host to be trampled underfoot?

as high as the Prince of the host that means as high as Yahshua this man calles himself. = Vicarius Filii Del

See the cheribims? he thinks he sitting on the mecry seat, that is the Most High's seat
2 Thessalonians 2:4, "Who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called gods or that is worshiped; so that he, as the Almighty, sits in the temple of Yahweh, showing himself that he is the Mighty One"

Revelation 17:4-5, "And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet color, and decked with gold, and precious stones, and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication. And upon her head was a name written: MYSTERY BABYLON THE GREAT THE MOTHER OF THE HARLOTS hAND OF THE iABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH."

Revelation 17:9, "And here is the mind which has wisdom: The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits."

Revelation 13:6, "And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against Yahweh, to blaspheme His Name, and His House, and those who dwell in heaven."

"No 'Yahweh' in songs, prayers at Catholic Masses, Vatican rules"
catholicnews.com

Daniyl 7:25, "And he will speak great words against Yahweh, and will wear out; mentally attack to cause to fall away,
the saints of Yahweh, and think to change times and Laws"

"The Pope is of great authority and power that he can modify, explain, or interpret even divine laws... The Pope can modify divine law, since his power is not of man, but of God, and he acts as vicegerent of God upon earth." -Lucius Ferraris, Prompta Ribliotheca, "Papa," art. 2, translated.

“Sunday is our mark or authority...the church is above the Bible, and this transference of Sabbath observance is proof of that fact.” Catholic Record of London, Ontario, September 1, 1923.

 

[Hizikyah]

Certianly there are many anti-Messiahs

BUT

THE SUN died on THEIR cross

They worship idols and have Mary as a mediator, this in itself denies Yahshua's power

1 Timothy 2:5, "For One is Yahweh; and One Mediator between Yahweh and men: the Man, Yahshua Messiah,"

not "Mary"

Jesus is pused aside in their religion, but more importantly, one can say Jesus all they want, if they teach a false version of the Savior, they are AGAINST THE MESSIAH.

 

[Hizikyah]

THE SUN

Also is it not anti-Messiah to teach people to pray to through Mary and not THE MESSIAH?

 

[KJV1611]

I would respectfully disagree Hizikyah.Assigning numbers to letters is not "counting" the number.
There is only one way to count a number.

666 = 666 ones
666 = 6 hundreds + 6 tens + 6 ones
666 = 66 tens + 6 ones

666 = 6 (man) adding to 66 (books of the bible). And yes the Catholic church does add to the word of God, but so do most other denominations and most Christians.

 

[Hizikyah]

I would respectfully disagree Hizikyah.Assigning numbers to letters is not "counting" the number.
There is only one way to count a number.

666 = 666 ones
666 = 6 hundreds + 6 tens + 6 ones
666 = 66 tens + 6 ones

666 = 6 (man) adding to 66 (books of the bible). And yes the Catholic church does add to the word of God, but so do most other denominations and most Christians.

I also respect your views, but the letters are numbers in roman numerals, so as I see it is literally counting, and the papacy fits the descriptions of mystery babylon through and through.

 

[KJV1611]

I also respect your views, but the letters are numbers in roman numerals, so as I see it is literally counting, and the papacy fits the descriptions of mystery babylon through and through.

Ok, the bible says count the number. .. so without adding to the word of God and assigning letters to the number, because the bible doesn't tell us to assign letters to the number. Count his number... you can't use letters. Just count the number.

 

[Bookends]

An anti-Christ is nothing more then a person or institution that denies the deity and works of Jesus Christ. 1 John 2:18,22, 1 John 4:3 and 2 John 1:7. KJV1611, although I may disagree with some things you say, I agree with you here, in some regard.

John in Revelations told the 1st Century believers that THEY could know who this individual beast (an anti-Christ, although never called that) is, by the number (a code, why to protect himself and others from the beast, and to confuse any unintended readers in whom the letter of Revelations fell into). Well, if this individual whom John is talking about resides in the 21st Century or our future, then John lied to the 1st century Christians for how could they know a 21st Century individual? Also, why would writing the beast's name in code have any bearing on him or Christians of His day if the beast was actually centuries beyond his time. He might have just as well written the full name as it normally appears using the alphabet. 600 and 60 and 6 is referring to nobody else buy Caesar Nero. see-->The Mark Of The Beast..

The pope does not deny Christ as the Christ (deity), thus the pope does not fully fit the description of an anti-Christ.

 

[Hizikyah]

Ok, the bible says count the number. .. so without adding to the word of God and assigning letters to the number, because the bible doesn't tell us to assign letters to the number. Count his number... you can't use letters. Just count the number.

roman numerals are numbers tho, their numbers are "V" "VII" etc, those are numbers.

 

[Bookends]

Let's stop playing the game, "Pin the tail of the anti-Christ" and learn how to rightfully divided the Word of God.

 

[Hizikyah]

An anti-Christ is nothing more then a person or institution that denies the deity and works of Jesus Christ. 1 John 2:18,22, 1 John 4:3 and 2 John 1:7. KJV1611, although I may disagree with some things you say, I agree with you here, in some regard.

John in Revelations told the 1st Century believers that THEY could know who this individual beast (an anti-Christ, although never called that) is, by the number (a code, why to protect himself and others from the beast, and to confuse any unintended readers in whom the letter of Revelations fell into). Well, if this individual whom John is talking about resides in the 21st Century or our future, then John lied to the 1st century Christians for how could they know a 21st Century individual? Also, why would writing the beast's name in code have any bearing on him or Christians of His day if the beast was actually centuries beyond his time. He might have just as well written the full name as it normally appears using the alphabet. 600 and 60 and 6 is referring to nobody else buy Caesar Nero. see-->The Mark Of The Beast..

The pope does not deny Christ as the Christ (deity), thus the pope does not fully fit the description of an anti-Christ.

Daniyl and Revelation talk about the same things:

Daniyl 12:4, "But you, O Daniyl, shut up the words, and seal the book to the time of the end; many will run to and fro, and knowledge will be increased."

Also you fulfilled 2000yrs ago doctrine was created by a jesuit priest, Rivers I think his name was...

and if all that has been fulfilled the Messiah would have returned already.

 

[Bookends]

Daniyl and Revelation talk about the same things:

Daniyl 12:4, "But you, O Daniyl, shut up the words, and seal the book to the time of the end; many will run to and fro, and knowledge will be increased."

Also you fulfilled 2000yrs ago doctrine was created by a jesuit priest, Rivers I think his name was...

and if all that has been fulfilled the Messiah would have returned already.

"and seal the book to the time of the end" , the end of what? the world? Sorry, it doesn't say that, you make it say that.

 

[Gjolll]

Did you know that the bible teaches that Christ came in two types of flesh?

No it does not teach this. Sometimes "flesh" is used symbolically, as in "eat my flesh."

There is only one flesh of Jesus Christ, the human flesh. The spirit of anti-christ lives in those who deny Christ was a man.

Everything about Roman Catholicism is epitomized by its refusal to accept that Jesus was a mere man. The errors of Roman Catholicism are also found in other denominations. Babylon epitomizes the beast engaged in idolatry. Human's are elevated into gods, and in this, humanity is itself denigrated, leading to persecution and prostitution.

666 denotes the multiplicity of the idols of Babylon, as opposed to 1, which denotes the unity of God.

See 666man.Net - Origin and History of the Number 666

 

[Hizikyah]

"and seal the book to the time of the end" , the end of what? the world? Sorry, it doesn't say that, you make it say that.

Daniyl and Revelation both end with Yahshua's return.

aka the end of the age.

 

[Bookends]

Daniyl and Revelation both end with Yahshua's return.

aka the end of the age.

The end of the age I agree with, but not the end of the world. Although Revelation touches briefly on the end of the world, but deals mostly with the end of the age, Jewish culture and temple sacrifice and worship.

 

[Hizikyah]

Daniyl and Revelation talk about the same things:

Daniyl 12:4, "But you, O Daniyl, shut up the words, and seal the book to the time of the end; many will run to and fro, and knowledge will be increased."

Also you fulfilled 2000yrs ago doctrine was created by a jesuit priest, Rivers I think his name was...

and if all that has been fulfilled the Messiah would have returned already.

correction Rivera

"and seal the book to the time of the end" , the end of what? the world? Sorry, it doesn't say that, you make it say that.

Daniyl and Revelation both end with Yahshua's return.

aka the end of the age.

The end of the age I agree with, but not the end of the world. Although Revelation touches briefly on the end of the world, but deals mostly with the end of the age, Jewish culture and temple sacrifice and worship.

right on, and just so you know I never did say the end of the world, I just quoted that Scripture.

 

[p_rehbein]

ANYONE WHO ISN'T FOR CHRIST, IS BY DEFINITION ANTI-CHRIST............geesshhhh, it ain't all that hard ya know......

 

[Hizikyah]

1 Yahchanan 2:18 Little children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the Anti-Messiah will come, even now there are many Anti-Messiahs; by this we know that this is the last hour.

there are many anti-Messiahs, but there a be THE end time anti-Messiah.

2 Thessalonians 2:7-8, "For the mystery of iniquity is already working, but the One restraining him will continue to restrain him, until he is made to appear in the midst. And then that lawless one will be revealed, whom Yahshua will remove with the breath of His mouth, and make powerless with the appearance of His coming."

 

[nathan3]

The Bible say this is non other then Satan himself in person in all his deceiving fake salesmen glory . ( The entire Bible warns about this. How this simple fact is overlooked is troubling ) .

 

[nathan3]

Satan himself. ( no one else, not in the form of some one, not possessing some one, not an old wrinkly man. No one But himself. ).

Satan himself in person on this earth in front of everyone.

It really dose not get any more simple in how the true Savior put this. For example ( Revelation 12:9 ).


If you have been taught to explain it away, and Not take Christ words for it as its presented there word for word. Then that's trouble right there..

Just like there were the wise virgins and the foolish ones.

Would they have gotten the response of " I know you not " from the bridegroom; had they still been virgins? No.

They were found with child, What dose that mean? What dose it mean when the bridegroom has been gone for a couple of thousand years ; and He returns expecting a virgin bride , yet she is pregnant ? ( spiritually speaking )