Romans Chapter 10 verse 13

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MySavior

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for, “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.
 
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This is a good quote, but it needs other scripture to complete it.

In Mathews it explains that we must forgive others so Christ can forgive us. How could we be saved unless God forgives us?

We need to love God, and Christ said that if you love me you will keep my commandments.

In the book of Isaiah it is explained that if we decide to cheat our neighbor, the blood sacrifice (that was the symbol of Christ) will not save you, it takes repentance.

It is good to know the word, but it takes the entirety of the word to truly know the truth of God.
 
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MySavior

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This is a good quote, but it needs other scripture to complete it.

In Mathews it explains that we must forgive others so Christ can forgive us. How could we be saved unless God forgives us?

We need to love God, and Christ said that if you love me you will keep my commandment

In the book of Isaiah it is explained that if we decide to cheat our neighbor, the blood sacrifice (that was the symbol of Christ) will not save you, it takes repentance.

It is good to know the word, but it takes the entirety of the word to truly know the truth of God.
Amen......
 

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Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.
PERIOD!
Once saved they ought to forgive others having been forgiven such a great debt.
We don't forgive in order to be forgiven...rather we forgive because we have already received forgiveness and His Spirit.
 
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Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.
PERIOD!
Once saved they ought to forgive others having been forgiven such a great debt.
We don't forgive in order to be forgiven...rather we forgive because we have already received forgiveness and His Spirit.
That is the way I would like God to do it. But I don't think scripture says that is what happens, and you and I can't dictate to God. Scripture doesn't say you "ought" to forgive. I says that if you don't, God "can't" forgive you. It doesn't even give us a way to reason ourselves into doing this, it just plain gives us the way the facts of our spiritual world is.
 

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That is the way I would like God to do it. But I don't think scripture says that is what happens, and you and I can't dictate to God. Scripture doesn't say you "ought" to forgive. I says that if you don't, God "can't" forgive you. It doesn't even give us a way to reason ourselves into doing this, it just plain gives us the way the facts of our spiritual world is.
Ok we forgive because He FIRST forgave us, just as 1John says...

We love him, because he first loved us.
(1Jn 4:19)
Same...we forgive the brethren because He first forgave us, otherwise you put the cart before the horse.

Besides this thread is on 'Calling on the name of the Lord'.
 

Hizikyah

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Romans 10:13 is a great verse! It is actually a quote of Yahyl (Joel)

Romans 10:13, "For Whoever calls with the Name of Yahweh will be saved."

Yahyl 2:32, "And whoever will call with the Name of Yahweh will be delivered..."

KJV Romans 10:13, "For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved."

KJV Joel 2:32, "And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered..."

3068. Yhvh
Yhvh: the proper name of the God of Israel
Original Word: יְהֹוָה
Part of Speech: Proper Name
Transliteration: Yhvh
Phonetic Spelling: (yeh-ho-vaw')
Short Definition: LORD


1961. hayah

hayah: to fall out, come to pass, become, be
Original Word: הָיָה
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: hayah
Phonetic Spelling: (haw-yaw)
Short Definition: come
 
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2Thewaters

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Romans 10:13, "For Whoever calls with the Name of Yahweh will be saved."

If you read Romans chapter 8 to 14 with prayer it becomes clear

It says we need to keep the commandments by the power of Gods holy spirit not by our own efforts

very clear

The Jews tried to be good by effort instead of pleading by prayer and faith in Gods holy spirit to change us inside to keep the holy just and good ten commandments

taking things out of context confuse things.
 
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2Thewaters

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Whoever calls on Jesus name to help him overcome a sin will be saved from doing that sin.
 
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2Thewaters

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Whoever calls on Jesus name to help him overcome a sin will be saved from doing that sin.

He was telling us we can keep the law
and be perfect
if we keep asking pleading with Jesus
continually
for Jesus will give grace
(holy spirit strength)
to give us inner strength
TO KEEP THE LAW

I recommend you to stop picking out small verses
this is the olnly way the free grace churches can come up with thier doctrines to nail God to the cross again
ignore them
they are trying to get you to break the law so you will perish.
Their leader is the enemy of souls

sit down
read the whole book of Romans
beginning to end
the verse you picked was on the topic of
How can the JEWS be saved?
They couldnt keep the law?
how can they keep the law NOW?
they coudlnt do it before


the answer was

By praying to Jesus
in his name
he will NOW
allow them
to keep the law
that they coudlnt keep on their own!
KEEP THE LAW
EVEN THE JEWS can keep it now


that is the key
it is amazing how the enemy
uses the BEST BOOK TO PROVE THE LAW
to try and prove the law is done away with!
by misapplying
when it is a letter CLEARLY from front to back
states
KEEP THE LAW!
and how to keep the law perfectly
by Jesus power in you

At the end of Romans
it says


GENTILES
JEWS
KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS
BY THE POWER OF GOD
THROUGH THE POWER OF THE NAME OF JESUS
HE WILL GIVE THE POWER TO YOU IF YOU PRAY

we get in trouble when we dont read the whole book
the enemy twists the scripture

So since most FREE GRACE and ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED false teachers dont read they will always pull out only a verse and misapply

just read the whole book'

by faith in the name of Jesus

Rom 16:24 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.
Rom 16:25 Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,
Rom 16:26 But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith:

OBEY THE COMMANDMENTS BY GODS POWER IN YOU IS THE HOPE OF GLORY

READ READ READ
 

Hizikyah

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Romans 10:13, "For Whoever calls with the Name of Yahweh will be saved."

If you read Romans chapter 8 to 14 with prayer it becomes clear

It says we need to keep the commandments by the power of Gods holy spirit not by our own efforts

very clear

The Jews tried to be good by effort instead of pleading by prayer and faith in Gods holy spirit to change us inside to keep the holy just and good ten commandments

taking things out of context confuse things.
What does this have to do with Romans 10:13 and what I said?

Whoever calls on Jesus name to help him overcome a sin will be saved from doing that sin.
Well the PARTICULAR text and quoted text is referring to Yahweh, also the name Jesus was never in existence until the 16th century, you see the letter "J" never existed before that...

"Jesus" REAL name Yahshua MEANS Yahweh's Salvation! a very beautiful thing! I dont know what Jesus means, His own language I know it means nothing.
 

Hizikyah

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Whoever calls on Jesus name to help him overcome a sin will be saved from doing that sin.

He was telling us we can keep the law
and be perfect
if we keep asking pleading with Jesus
continually
for Jesus will give grace
(holy spirit strength)
to give us inner strength
TO KEEP THE LAW

I recommend you to stop picking out small verses
this is the olnly way the free grace churches can come up with thier doctrines to nail God to the cross again
ignore them
they are trying to get you to break the law so you will perish.
Their leader is the enemy of souls

sit down
read the whole book of Romans
beginning to end
the verse you picked was on the topic of
How can the JEWS be saved?
They couldnt keep the law?
how can they keep the law NOW?
they coudlnt do it before


the answer was

By praying to Jesus
in his name
he will NOW
allow them
to keep the law
that they coudlnt keep on their own!
KEEP THE LAW
EVEN THE JEWS can keep it now


that is the key
it is amazing how the enemy
uses the BEST BOOK TO PROVE THE LAW
to try and prove the law is done away with!
by misapplying
when it is a letter CLEARLY from front to back
states
KEEP THE LAW!
and how to keep the law perfectly
by Jesus power in you

At the end of Romans
it says


GENTILES
JEWS
KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS
BY THE POWER OF GOD
THROUGH THE POWER OF THE NAME OF JESUS
HE WILL GIVE THE POWER TO YOU IF YOU PRAY

we get in trouble when we dont read the whole book
the enemy twists the scripture

So since most FREE GRACE and ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED false teachers dont read they will always pull out only a verse and misapply

just read the whole book'

by faith in the name of Jesus

Rom 16:24 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.
Rom 16:25 Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,
Rom 16:26 But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith:

OBEY THE COMMANDMENTS BY GODS POWER IN YOU IS THE HOPE OF GLORY

READ READ READ
so the enemy said this?:

Revelation 22:12-15, "And behold, I come quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give every man according as his work will be. I am the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End. Blessed are those who keep His Laws, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For outside are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and worshipers of gods and everyone who professes to love, yet practices falsehood."
 
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2Thewaters

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Same person though
we just have an accent
 

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It's not just future...:1John 5:24