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didymos

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Here's a video with ALL the names of the 66 Bible books in hebrew. If you like to call our Lord 'Yahweh,' and want to quote scripture using the 'original' hebrew names of Bible books, this video might be interesting to watch. So if you like to say, for instance, 'Mattithyahu' instead of 'Matthew,' there's to need to refer to 'Revelation' anymore... just say 'Chizzayown!'

I mean, if you HAVE to use those 'original' hebrew names, then please be consistent about it. ;)

[video=youtube;oF9MaI7s8Og]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oF9MaI7s8Og[/video]
 
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I have no idea who this thread could be aimed at! :p
 

Hizikyah

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Psalm 22:22, "I will declare Your Name to My brothers! In the midst of the congregation I will give You praise!"

Psalm 44:20-21, "If we have forgotten Your Name, Yahweh, or if we stretched out our hands to hinder gods, Would You not search this out, Yahweh? For You know the secrets; hidden things, of the heart."

Our Heavenly Father has many titles, but only 1 Name.

Yeremyah 23:26-27, "How long will this be in the heart of the prophets who prophesy lies? Yes, they are prophets of the deceit of their own minds plan and scheme, to cause My people to eforget My Name through their dreams, which they tell every man to his neighbor, just as their fathers have forgotten My Name for Baal."

BAAL (DEITY) [Hebrew - baal] . Canaanite storm and fertility god. The name, which means “lord, ” is an epithet of the god Hadad (lit. “thunderer” ). Well-known from the OT, he is now extremely well-attested in the Ugaritic texts, in addition to being mentioned in other ancient texts.
Freedman, David Noel: The Anchor Bible Dictionary. New York : Doubleday, 1996, c1992, S. 1:546

BA´AL (ba'al; Heb. ba?al, “lord, possessor”).
1. A common name for god among the Phoenicians; also the name of their chief male god. See Gods, False.
Unger, Merrill Frederick ; Harrison, R. K. ; Vos, Howard Frederic ; Barber, Cyril J. ; Unger, Merrill Frederick: The New Unger's Bible Dictionary. Rev. and updated ed. Chicago : Moody Press, 1988


Baal (Heb. ba?al) DEITY
The Canaanite storm- and fertility-god. As an epithet for various West Semitic deities, especially Hadad, the name means “lord,” designating a legal state of ownership or social superiority. With the obvious exception of Yahweh, Baal is the most significant deity in the OT.
Freedman, David Noel ; Myers, Allen C. ; Beck, Astrid B.: Eerdmans Dictionary of the Bible. Grand Rapids, Mich. : W.B. Eerdmans, 2000


BAAL [BAY uhl] (lord, master) — the name of one or more false gods, a place, and two people in the Old Testament:
1. A fertility and nature god of the Canaanites and Phoenicians. Also see Gods, Pagan.
Youngblood, Ronald F. ; Bruce, F. F. ; Harrison, R. K. ; Thomas Nelson Publishers: Nelson's New Illustrated Bible Dictionary. Nashville : T. Nelson, 1995

Yeremyah 12:14-17, "This is what Yahweh says against all My evil neighbors who touch the inheritance which I have caused My people Israyl to inherit: Behold, I will pluck them up from off their land, and I will pluck up the house of Yahdah from among them. And it will come to pass, after I have plucked them out, that I will return and have compassion on them, and bring them back; everyone to his aheritage and everyone to his land. And it will come to pass, if they will diligently learn the ways of My people, to vow by My Name, saying; As surely as Yahweh lives--as they once taught My people to vow by Baal; Lord--then they will be established in the midst of My people. But if they do not obey, I will utterly pluck up and destroy that nation, says Yahweh."

Yeremyah 16:19-21, "O Yahweh, my strength and my fortress, my refuge in athe day of affliction, the Gentiles will come to You from the ends of the earth, and will say: Surely our fathers have inherited nothing but lies and vanity; worthless, powerless gods, of no use at all! Do men bmake gods for themselves? Yes, but they are powerless! Therefore behold, I will make them to know--this time I will teach them My power and might; and they will know that My Name is Yahweh!"

Exodus 34:5-7, "Then Yahweh descended in the cloud, and stood with him there, and proclaimed the Name of YAHWEH. Yahweh passed in front of him, and proclaimed: YAHWEH, YAHWEH Almighty, merciful and compassionate, longsuffering, and abounding in righteousness and truth. Keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity, and transgression, and sin; but by no means leaving unpunished those who are guilty; Who visits the sin of the fathers upon the children and the children's children, to the third and fourth generation."

Yahyl 2:32, "And whoever will call with the Name of Yahweh will be delivered; for in Mount Zion in Yerusalem there will be deliverance, as Yahweh has said, among the iremnant who has escaped of those whom Yahweh calls."

Psalm 118:26, "Blessed be He Who comes in the Name of Yahweh!.."

Isayah 65:15, "And the names of your gods will remain as a trap to My chosen; for Yahweh our Father will slay you, but he will give His servants a Name that will remain forever."

Zephanyah 3:9, "Yes, at that time I will return to the peoples a pure language, so that all of them may call on the Name of Yahweh, and serve Him with one accord"

Talmud - Mas. Baba Metzia 59b

We learnt elsewhere: If he cut it into separate tiles, placing sand between each tile: R. Eliezer declared it clean, and the Sages declared it unclean; and this was the oven of ‘Aknai.1 Why [the oven of] ‘Aknai? — Said Rab Judah in Samuel's name: [It means] that they encompassed it with arguments2 as a snake, and proved it unclean. It has been taught: On that day R. Eliezer brought forward every imaginable argument ,3 but they did not accept them. Said he to them: ‘If the halachah agrees with me, let this carob-tree prove it!’ Thereupon the carob-tree was torn a hundred cubits out of its place — others affirm, four hundred cubits. ‘No proof can be brought from a carob-tree,’ they retorted. Again he said to them: ‘If the halachah agrees with me, let the stream of water prove it!’ Whereupon the stream of water flowed backwards — ‘No proof
can be brought from a stream of water,’ they rejoined. Again he urged: ‘If the halachah agrees with me, let the walls of the schoolhouse prove it,’ whereupon the walls inclined to fall. But R. Joshua rebuked them, saying: ‘When scholars are engaged in a halachic dispute, what have ye to interfere?’ Hence they did not fall, in honour of R. Joshua, nor did they resume the upright, in honour of R. Eliezer; and they are still standing thus inclined. Again he said to them: ‘If the halachah agrees with me, let it be proved from Heaven!’ Whereupon a Heavenly Voice cried out: ‘Why do ye dispute with R. Eliezer, seeing that in all matters the halachah agrees with him!’ But R. Joshua arose and exclaimed: ‘It is not in heaven.’4 What did he mean by this? — Said R. Jeremiah: That the Torah had already been given at Mount Sinai; we pay no attention to a Heavenly Voice, because Thou hast long since written in the Torah at Mount Sinai, After the majority must one incline.5R. Nathan met Elijah6 and asked him: What did the Holy One, Blessed be He, do in that hour? — He laughed [with joy], he replied, saying, ‘My sons have defeated Me, My sons have defeated Me.’ It was said: On that day all objects which R. Eliezer had declared clean were brought and burnt in fire.7 Then they took a vote and excommunicated him.

Later we will factually see where the thought pattern behind words in red originated.

This next reading is the origin of the ban on the Name of the Most High: Yahweh

Talmud - Mas. Sotah 38a
Another [Baraitha] taught: ‘On this wise ye shall bless the children of Israel’ — with the use of
the Shem Hameforash.15 You say that it means with the Tetragrammaton; but perhaps that is not so and a substituted name was used!16 There is a text to say: So shall they put My name17 — My name which is unique to Me. It is possible to think that [the Shem Hameforash was also used] in places outside the Temple; but it is stated here, ‘So shall they put My name’ and elsewhere it is stated: To put His name there18 — as in this latter passage it denotes in the Temple so also in the former passage it denotes in the Temple. R. Joshiah says: [This deduction] is unnecessary; behold it states: In every place where I cause My name to be remembered I will come unto thee.19 Can it enter your mind that every place is intended?20 But the text must be transposed thus: In every place where I will come unto thee and bless thee will I cause My name to be remembered; and where will I come unto thee and bless thee? In the Temple; there, in the Temple, will I cause My name to be remembered. Another [Baraitha] teaches: ‘On this wise ye shall bless the children of Israel’ — I have here only the children of Israel; whence is it that proselytes, women and enfranchised slaves [are included]? There is a text to state, Ye shall say unto them21 — i.e., to all of them.

"but perhaps that is not so and a substituted name was used,"
No Scripture says anything like this at all, a Rabbi comes along and says, " "but perhaps that is not so," and after that Yahweh's Name is hidden. However it is not that FOOLISH and innocent, as it was on purpose that this was contrived:

Yeremyah 23:26-27, "How long will this be in the heart of the prophets who prophesy lies? Yes, they are prophets of the deceit of their own minds; Who devise; plan and scheme, to cause My people to eforget My Name through their dreams, which they tell every man to his neighbor, just as their fathers have forgotten My Name for Baal; (Lord.)"

The Name YHWH was removed at least 6,828 times and replaced with LORD or GOD. You can tell where it was because ALL the letters are capital where YHWH was. The Masorites added vowel points to the Hebrew manuscripts (not in the "J" writings," (Called J (Y) for it's use of YHWH), but in the next oldest, the "E" writings (for it's use of Elohim). The vowel points replaced Yahweh's Name with Adonal = Lord and Elohim = God(s).It is forbidden by Yahweh to hide His Name by the way. However as we seen in the Talmud, to the Rabbis this is of no effect: "we pay no attention to a Heavenly Voice." Then we come to modern times when this false practice is still used, I have a Bible that says, quote: "this tradition is still used".

Mattithyah 15:2-3, "Why do Your disciples transgress the traditions of the elders? For they do not wash their hands when they eat. But He answered, and said to them:
And why do you transgress the Laws of Yahweh by your traditions?"

Talmud - Mas. Yoma 39b
His brethren [that year] the priests forbore to mention the Ineffable Name in pronouncing the [priestly] blessing.4 Our Rabbis taught: During the last forty years before the destruction of the Temple the lot [‘For the Lord’] did not come up in the right hand; nor did the crimson-coloured strap become white;

Numbers 6:23-27, "Speak to Aaron and his sons, saying; This is how you are to bless the children of Israyl. Say to them; YAHWEH BLESS YOU AND KEEP YOU. YAHWEH MAKE HIS FACE SHINE UPON YOU AND BE MERCIFUL TO YOU. YAHWEH LIFT UP HIS COUNTENANCE UPON YOU, AND GIVE YOU PEACE. So they will put MY NAME on the children of Israyl, and I will bless them."

This is the Command that the "priests forbore", all supposedly because that "Rabbi" said, "but perhaps that is not so." Note "nor did the crimson-coloured strap become white," this was the sign that thier sins were forgiven. Also the Talmud RECORDS that after they killed Yahshua, from that time until the destruction Bayith Yahweh (Solomon's Temple) the crimson colored strap NEVER turned white again.
 

Hizikyah

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you are all making a joke about truth, Yahweh;s Name has been removed and many times in Scripture He is clearly mad about it, yet it is but a laughing matter to many.
 
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didymos

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you are all making a joke about truth, Yahweh;s Name has been removed and many times in Scripture He is clearly mad about it, yet it is but a laughing matter to many.
This thread isn't about 'Yahweh' at all, but about the inconsistant use of 'original' hebrew Bible book names. Your previous post is a good example. I mean, why not refer to 'Tehillim' instead of 'Psalms,' if you say 'Yeremyah' instead of 'Jeremiah.'
 

Hizikyah

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and you know why the prophets etc names were changed? because they contained the name of Yahweh

Malakyah means messenger of Yahweh

Mattithyah means gift of Yahweh

Yahchanan (John) means Yahweh is merciful

Hizikyah means Yahweh will prevail

Zecharyah means REMEMBRANCE of Yahweh

do you not see how the CHANGED and moderinzed names do not in any way shape or form construe their original meanings?


Yahchanan (John) means Yahweh is merciful

now we have John, what does John means? NOTING TO DO WITH YAHWEH

the Name of the Messiah is Yahshua and it means Yahweh's Salvation, what does the name Jesus mean?

but no just jokes about this and poking at those who love Yahweh's truth and wish to seek it, find it and hold fast to it because they love Yahweh.

I am so disappointed by this, this is not the first time this has happened but none the less it is messed up.
 
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Tintin

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It isn't 'aimed' at anyone.
Are you sure about that? If people do this naturally, fine. But it seems to me that many who do it come across as self-righteous, holier-than-thou types.
 

Hizikyah

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Are you sure about that? If people do this naturally, fine. But it seems to me that many who do it come across as self-righteous, holier-than-thou types.
How am I or any others "self-righteous, holier-than-thou types" because we use the name of Yahweh and the real name of the Messiah and Scripture writers?

That is a personal issue that has noting to do with these matters, not 1 bit.

Honestly tell me how this is connected to that thought, I honestly want to know, because I ahve been told more than once that because I use Yahweh and other names I am "self-righteous, holier-than-thou types."
 

Hizikyah

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can you all here tell me this, does Yahweh seem glad or mad that the world has been caused to forget His name? (names of the writers CONTAIN His name so this does apply because it is a part of the "causing to forget"

Yeremyah 23:26-27, "How long will this be in the heart of the prophets who prophesy lies? Yes, they are prophets of the deceit of their own minds plan and scheme, to cause My people to eforget My Name through their dreams, which they tell every man to his neighbor, just as their fathers have forgotten My Name for Baal."
 
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some say calling Father by His name sounds holier than thou, what about calling Him Father?
 
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and you know why the prophets etc names were changed? because they contained the name of Yahweh

Malakyah means messenger of Yahweh

Mattithyah means gift of Yahweh

Yahchanan (John) means Yahweh is merciful

Hizikyah means Yahweh will prevail

Zecharyah means REMEMBRANCE of Yahweh

do you not see how the CHANGED and moderinzed names do not in any way shape or form construe their original meanings?


Yahchanan (John) means Yahweh is merciful

now we have John, what does John means? NOTING TO DO WITH YAHWEH

the Name of the Messiah is Yahshua and it means Yahweh's Salvation, what does the name Jesus mean?

but no just jokes about this and poking at those who love Yahweh's truth and wish to seek it, find it and hold fast to it because they love Yahweh.

I am so disappointed by this, this is not the first time this has happened but none the less it is messed up.
All of these names will have their part in the lake of fire. All things will be new as He has a name now NO MAN KNOWS. He is CALLED the word of God. What that means is that appearances and names mean nothing. Obedience is found in the toungue which shows forth the treasure of every man. God is a Spirit, as such we are to test the spirits.
 
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didymos

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Are you sure about that? If people do this naturally, fine. But it seems to me that many who do it come across as self-righteous, holier-than-thou types.
Yes, I'm sure. But maybe I'm the problem:
could be I just have an OCD when it comes to Bible book names. :rolleyes:
 
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All of these names will have their part in the lake of fire. All things will be new as He has a name now NO MAN KNOWS. He is CALLED the word of God. What that means is that appearances and names mean nothing. Obedience is found in the tongue which shows forth the treasure of every man. God is a Spirit, as such we are to test the spirits.
Wow, that escalated.
 

Agricola

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We havnt forgotten Jesus or God though. I have not forgotten my old teachers from 40 years ago, I have forgotten their first names, but I still remember them but only know them by their last name.

I dont think God is going to worry over humans not using the Hebrew names.
 

JaumeJ

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Why not translate His name to your language...........YHwH is the transliteration of the gerund form of the Hebrew verb to be or to make exist, thus He would be called Self-Existing.

Why not translate Jesus and Yeshua rather than use the transliterations. His name would be Salvation.

I know if I were to translate instead of transliterate all the names and the words in the Word that have not been fully and actually translated I would be laughed to scorn. Actually many folks are laughed to scorn simply by using the Hebrew names.

This should make many ignorant people who claim they believe and love very happy. Straining at gnats instead of being concerned with the weightier matters of the cross and salvation.

Continue being more concerned with translations and accents, this should make the enemy very happy. Meanwhile His children understand.
 
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