Noah's Ark

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Hello people, I've decided to make a new post because I feel that it's good to have a discussion.

I'm sure that you are all aware of the bible story of Noah and the Ark that God commanded him to make and herd 2 of each animal onto the Ark, for God was to cleanse the world of sinners. But what's stricken me recently is when, Noah had to huddle on 2 of each species onto the ark so that when the waters cease, Noah can release the animals into the wild so that they can repopulate the plains. We all know that the Ark was ( after 40 days and 40 nights ) resting on the mountains of Ararat, but, was the flood global? if it was, then how do we explain the animals that are on Australia? such as the marsupials, the birds in the amazon , the polar bears in the cold climates of the world and many more.

If Noah did indeed rest the ark in Turkey, then how do you explain the animals on the other continents if Noah released the animals to the 1 continent. This never ever made sense to me, but I would appreciate some thought taken into this. :)

Thanks guys! Have a blessed day! )0(
 
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Yep he also took 7 of each right?
 
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There were 2 different floods right? It's been a while and I'm too lazy to check right now.
 
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He took seven pair of every clean animal and two pair of every unclean.
Why do feel you have to explain the current presence of the animals in Australia or any other part of the world. Does your lack of an explanation somehow render the biblical account of a global flood suspect?
 
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hey, I just got through reading Genesis chapters 1-11 and I also had the same question until I got to a part of the genealogy. Now, I believe that the earth (as in ground, not the planet) Broke up into it various continents.

Chapter 10 verse 25

25 And unto Eber were born two sons: the name of one was Peleg; for in his days was the earth divided; and his brother's name was Joktan.
 
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Gen 7:1 And the LORD said unto Noah, Come thou and all thy house into the ark; for thee have I seen righteous before me in this generation.
Gen 7:2 Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female.

Why did Noah have to preserve the animals if it was not a global flood?
 
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shrimp said:
hey, I just got through reading Genesis chapters 1-11 and I also had the same question until I got to a part of the genealogy. Now, I believe that the earth (as in ground, not the planet) Broke up into it various continents.

Chapter 10 verse 25

25 And unto Eber were born two sons: the name of one was Peleg; for in his days was the earth divided; and his brother's name was Joktan.
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The context in Gen 10 is talking about the division of languages. This may not be referring to tectonic division.
 
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Yeah it does make you wonder how the polar bears and penguins got to and from the ark. How fresh water and salt water fish were able to survive. How the animals were looked after and fed and what did they eat when they hit land? The amounts of disease that would have to taken on board so the parasites and bacteria could survive. Then there's the issue that light obviously didn't somehow refract before the ark so there wouldn't have been any Rainbows. Plus you have to ask the point in it all because people are just as horrible now as they were before the flood anyway.

We also have to consider that other civilisations don't acknowledge a flood ever happened at that time (Such as the Egyptians who had already started to keep records)

I know some guy is attempting to rebuild the ark and he's blown millions of dollars, had a full crew of workers in and they still get the job done. But a 500 year old man can get it done?

It's a very tall tale and I cant imagine how difficult it must be for a believer to accept the story and try to rationalise it.
 
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Yeah it does make you wonder how the polar bears and penguins got to and from the ark. How fresh water and salt water fish were able to survive. How the animals were looked after and fed and what did they eat when they hit land? The amounts of disease that would have to taken on board so the parasites and bacteria could survive. Then there's the issue that light obviously didn't somehow refract before the ark so there wouldn't have been any Rainbows. Plus you have to ask the point in it all because people are just as horrible now as they were before the flood anyway.

We also have to consider that other civilisations don't acknowledge a flood ever happened at that time (Such as the Egyptians who had already started to keep records)

I know some guy is attempting to rebuild the ark and he's blown millions of dollars, had a full crew of workers in and they still get the job done. But a 500 year old man can get it done?

It's a very tall tale and I cant imagine how difficult it must be for a believer to accept the story and try to rationalise it.
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You hit the nail square on the head there! exactly what I wanted to hear!
 
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IntoTheVoid said:
Yeah it does make you wonder how the polar bears and penguins got to and from the ark. How fresh water and salt water fish were able to survive. How the animals were looked after and fed and what did they eat when they hit land? The amounts of disease that would have to taken on board so the parasites and bacteria could survive. Then there's the issue that light obviously didn't somehow refract before the ark so there wouldn't have been any Rainbows. Plus you have to ask the point in it all because people are just as horrible now as they were before the flood anyway.

We also have to consider that other civilisations don't acknowledge a flood ever happened at that time (Such as the Egyptians who had already started to keep records)

I know some guy is attempting to rebuild the ark and he's blown millions of dollars, had a full crew of workers in and they still get the job done. But a 500 year old man can get it done?

It's a very tall tale and I cant imagine how difficult it must be for a believer to accept the story and try to rationalise it.
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Lemme see here, the flood was not a natural occurrence but rather a supernatural intervention by Almighty God. Is it then difficult to believe that the redistribution of flora and fauna after the flood was the result of direct intervention?
 
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This could be true, unfortunately we don't have all of the details :( Certainly not salvation altering, but something to think about. If we think about who the master builder of the tower is and cross reference genealogy timetables and......gah! my brain!
 
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john832 said:
Lemme see here, the flood was not a natural occurrence but rather a supernatural intervention by Almighty God. Is it then difficult to believe that the redistribution of flora and fauna after the flood was the result of direct intervention?
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Well if you believe the flood story is true, then you obviously have to believe that god redistributed everything.

Plus if god is capable of absolutely everything, why send a flood to kill everyone? Why not Just strike down the bad people? Why did god kill innocent babies in the flood? Surely there's a much cleaner and better way to do things than this overly complicated and practically impossible 'flood'.
 
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Well if you believe the flood story is true, then you obviously have to believe that god redistributed everything.

Plus if god is capable of absolutely everything, why send a flood to kill everyone? Why not Just strike down the bad people? Why did god kill innocent babies in the flood? Surely there's a much cleaner and better way to do things than this overly complicated and practically impossible 'flood'.
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Probably because God does things decent and in order. He knew the needs of future generations. Fossil fuels and such the like.
 
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Distinct separation of God and the Lord. God commands then the Lord perches his presence upon the ark. God leads the spirit of the Lord to show it's presence to us by dividing his evil works from his good works.
 
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I request permission to retract my statement about Peleg. I really did not do much research on it and after having read a bit on it, I do agree that the "continental drift" must have happened during the time of the flood. I apologize for my ignorance.
 
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IntoTheVoid said:
Yeah it does make you wonder how the polar bears and penguins got to and from the ark. How fresh water and salt water fish were able to survive. How the animals were looked after and fed and what did they eat when they hit land? The amounts of disease that would have to taken on board so the parasites and bacteria could survive. Then there's the issue that light obviously didn't somehow refract before the ark so there wouldn't have been any Rainbows. Plus you have to ask the point in it all because people are just as horrible now as they were before the flood anyway.

We also have to consider that other civilisations don't acknowledge a flood ever happened at that time (Such as the Egyptians who had already started to keep records)
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Pretty bold statement there...

Egypt:
People have become rebellious. Atum said he will destroy all he made and return the earth to the Primordial Water which was its original state. Atum will remain, in the form of a serpent, with Osiris. [Faulkner, plate 30] (Unfortunately the version of the papyrus with the flood story is damaged and unclear. See also Budge, p. ccii.)

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You didn't expect it to be word for word from Genesis, did you?

I know some guy is attempting to rebuild the ark and he's blown millions of dollars, had a full crew of workers in and they still get the job done. But a 500 year old man can get it done?
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If you live to be 900 years old then 500 years old then that is the equivalent of 39 years old today. Don't know about you, but when I was thirty-nine, I could work 16 hours a day, 6 days a week.

It's a very tall tale and I cant imagine how difficult it must be for a believer to accept the story and try to rationalise it.
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Well perhaps you can explain why there is sedimentary rock in the Alps, Rockies etc.?
 
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Probably because God does things decent and in order. He knew the needs of future generations. Fossil fuels and such the like.
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So the only way to achieve that is by wiping everyone out. Why not just 'redistribute' fossil fuels like he did flowers and fauna?
 
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