TONGUES!!!!

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1 Corinthians 14

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Prophecy and Tongues

14 Pursue love, and desire spiritual gifts, but especially that you may prophesy. 2 For he who speaks in a tongue does not speak to men but to God, for no one understands him; however, in the spirit he speaks mysteries. 3 But he who prophesies speaks edification and exhortation and comfort to men. 4 He who speaks in a tongue edifies himself, but he who prophesies edifies the church. 5 I wish you all spoke with tongues, but even more that you prophesied; for[a] he who prophesies is greater than he who speaks with tongues, unless indeed he interprets, that the church may receive edification.
Tongues Must Be Interpreted

6 But now, brethren, if I come to you speaking with tongues, what shall I profit you unless I speak to you either by revelation, by knowledge, by prophesying, or by teaching? 7 Even things without life, whether flute or harp, when they make a sound, unless they make a distinction in the sounds, how will it be known what is piped or played? 8 For if the trumpet makes an uncertain sound, who will prepare for battle? 9 So likewise you, unless you utter by the tongue words easy to understand, how will it be known what is spoken? For you will be speaking into the air. 10 There are, it may be, so many kinds of languages in the world, and none of them is without significance. 11 Therefore, if I do not know the meaning of the language, I shall be a foreigner to him who speaks, and he who speaks will be a foreigner to me.12 Even so you, since you are zealous for spiritual gifts, let it be for the edification of the church that you seek to excel.
13 Therefore let him who speaks in a tongue pray that he may interpret. 14 For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays, but my understanding is unfruitful. 15 What is the conclusion then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will also pray with the understanding. I will sing with the spirit, and I will also sing with the understanding. 16 Otherwise, if you bless with the spirit, how will he who occupies the place of the uninformed say “Amen” at your giving of thanks, since he does not understand what you say? 17 For you indeed give thanks well, but the other is not edified.
18 I thank my God I speak with tongues more than you all; 19 yet in the church I would rather speak five words with my understanding, that I may teach others also, than ten thousand words in a tongue.
Tongues a Sign to Unbelievers

20 Brethren, do not be children in understanding; however, in malice be babes, but in understanding be mature.
21 In the law it is written:
“With men of other tongues and other lips
I will speak to this people;
And yet, for all that, they will not hear Me,”[b]

says the Lord.
22 Therefore tongues are for a sign, not to those who believe but to unbelievers; but prophesying is not for unbelievers but for those who believe. 23 Therefore if the whole church comes together in one place, and all speak with tongues, and there come in those who are uninformed or unbelievers, will they not say that you are out of your mind? 24 But if all prophesy, and an unbeliever or an uninformed person comes in, he is convinced by all, he is convicted by all. 25 And thus[c] the secrets of his heart are revealed; and so, falling down on his face, he will worship God and report that God is truly among you.
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26 How is it then, brethren? Whenever you come together, each of you has a psalm, has a teaching, has a tongue, has a revelation, has an interpretation. Let all things be done for edification. 27 If anyone speaks in a tongue, let there betwo or at the most three, each in turn, and let one interpret. 28 But if there is no interpreter, let him keep silent in church, and let him speak to himself and to God. 29 Let two or three prophets speak, and let the others judge. 30 But ifanything is revealed to another who sits by, let the first keep silent. 31 For you can all prophesy one by one, that all may learn and all may be encouraged. 32 And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets. 33 For God is notthe author of confusion but of peace, as in all the churches of the saints.
34 Let your[d] women keep silent in the churches, for they are not permitted to speak; but they are to be submissive, as the law also says. 35 And if they want to learn something, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is shameful for women to speak in church.
36 Or did the word of God come originally from you? Or was it you only that it reached? 37 If anyone thinks himself to be a prophet or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things which I write to you are the commandments of the Lord.38 But if anyone is ignorant, let him be ignorant.[e]
39 Therefore, brethren, desire earnestly to prophesy, and do not forbid to speak with tongues. 40 Let all things be done decently and in order.


Know that i have your attention I just wanted to say the Lord Yeshua Bless You and Bring to pass what He has called in your Life and sent you Forth to do and May He Bless You and the Supernatural Power of God abide in and Around u and be apart of your Life Sister/Brother

I am not here to debate but to say that I love you and Jesus Loves you more then all this debating and all this arguing and Bickering and all this religious devil talk and Wants us to love one another and edify one another and i just Bless You and ask That unity come through this form and through each individual for edification in Yeshua's name i pray amen !!!!

 

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Tongues can be interpreted, yes, but that is not the only reason or time for tongues. It is a dangerous thing to say that the only time to pray in tongues is when someone else will interpret. There are times when we do not have the words to cry out to God and that is when Holy Spirit takes over and cries out for us. There are times when an interpretation should happen, but fear silences the person who would interpret. Should tongues be limited due to this? Should Holy Spirit be reigned in and kept in a box because the study of tongues is limited to this portion of Scripture?

There is the prayer language and there is the tongues for edification and interpretation and we must not crush one for the sake of the other, as both are vital, true and needful.

"For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries." 1 Corinthians 14:2 KJV (Prayer language)
 
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I was lost on the word Yeshua so i googled it and learned something new... Knowlodge of faith is the key to all scripture....


Jewish people say that our Lord Jesus' real Hebrew name is Yeshua. If it is true, then why are people worshiping him in the wrong name? The reader is not the first person to ask this question. Some religious movements have argued that we worship the wrong Savior if we do not call him by his Hebrew name, Yeshua.

Answer:

He is correct in saying Yeshua is the Hebrew name for the Lord. It means "Yahweh [the Lord] is Salvation." The English spelling of Yeshua is “Joshua.” However, when translated from Hebrew into the Greek language, the name Yeshua becomes Iēsous. The English spelling for Iēsous is “Jesus.” Basically, what this means is Joshua and Jesus are the same name. One is translated from Hebrew into English, the other from Greek into English. It is also interesting to note, the names "Joshua" and "Isaiah" are essentially the same names as Yeshua in Hebrew. They mean "Savior" and "the salvation of the Lord." These are not my word found on the internet...

God Bless You all and Your Families.....
 
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Tongues can be interpreted, yes, but that is not the only reason or time for tongues. It is a dangerous thing to say that the only time to pray in tongues is when someone else will interpret. There are times when we do not have the words to cry out to God and that is when Holy Spirit takes over and cries out for us. There are times when an interpretation should happen, but fear silences the person who would interpret. Should tongues be limited due to this? Should Holy Spirit be reigned in and kept in a box because the study of tongues is limited to this portion of Scripture?

There is the prayer language and there is the tongues for edification and interpretation and we must not crush one for the sake of the other, as both are vital, true and needful.

"For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries." 1 Corinthians 14:2 KJV (Prayer language)
Apparently you did not understand what i said i have not come to debate But to Bless you all and just continue on my walk with the Lord Jesus!! DO I SPEAK IN TONGUES PERSONALLY YES!!! IM FILLED WITH THE GREAT HOLY GHOST!!! AND JESUS IS KING OVER MY LIFE!! Now you can belive how you want to believe i don't really care i believe what the Bible says and that is not up for discussion

I Will not debate with you nor anyone else on this forum no point i pray that you have a clear revalation on Tongues and power of speaking and praying in tongues and that God would show u and make it clear in Jesus Name Amen !!!!
 

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Odd that you don't want to discuss this. Why post it in a forum then? Do you not understand that forums are made for discussion and debate? If you don't want to discuss or debate, create a blog entry and stay off the forums. It is rude to post something and then type in CAPS and get all huffy because someone comes onto a public forum and posts their thoughts and opinions and feelings.
 
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im here to bless not argue and debate with relgious devils
why did i make the post as you see it was to bless and to pray for the debating to end u say it is rude but i say it is a way to speak to people on a problem that this church has and is so fractured because there is no unity but thats a whole diffrent topic im not here to debate but to Bless Everyone needs it !!!
 
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Odd that you don't want to discuss this. Why post it in a forum then? Do you not understand that forums are made for discussion and debate? If you don't want to discuss or debate, create a blog entry and stay off the forums. It is rude to post something and then type in CAPS and get all huffy because someone comes onto a public forum and posts their thoughts and opinions and feelings.
Giant Slayers - 04/19/2012 - YouTube
 

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if one wants to avoid arguments,
one ought to overlook offenses
and speak therefore as though not offended,
and giving no one offense, but only speaking truth.
 
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im here to bless not argue and debate with relgious devils
why did i make the post as you see it was to bless and to pray for the debating to end u say it is rude but i say it is a way to speak to people on a problem that this church has and is so fractured because there is no unity but thats a whole diffrent topic im not here to debate but to Bless Everyone needs it !!!
By posting "religious devils" you have just announced to everyone that you are not of Christ. If you were, you would not call those who want to discuss the Lord and what He wants of us "religious devils". People who live to reflect Christ don't judge the people who are speaking of God's ways as they understand it.

We have several posters here who judge and fight. Most simply ignore all they say, and if it gets too bad they are banned.

I am very disappointed in you! I was so impressed with your ability to speak in tongues. My girl friend told me what a blessing it was to her. I hope you soon meet your Lord and Savior so you can join us in our discussions.
 

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Speaking of tongues, why don't we control our tongues (or our fingers) its such a simple thread and we're cutting each other up 10 posts in. It hurts man.
 
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had a feeling this thread would go this way lol - just saying
 
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Tongues must have a purpose. Look in scripture , every time someone spoke in tongues there was a reason. Why would you need to speak tongues among believers that speak the same language ? Would it not be more benificial to speak the word that God has given you in a language the church understands?
 

notuptome

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The OP in this thread just posts this subject every so often to stir up the subject. There can only be strife over the modern tongues movement. There is not going to be any consensus developed as both sides on the issue are firmly set.

There is no agreement that tongues are languages among most of those who address the issue.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 

Nautilus

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Religious devils? We arent the ones supporting being slain in the support and babbling nonsense and yet still calling it of God. Perhaps take your twisted concepts of christianity elsewhere?
 

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Apparently you did not understand what i said i have not come to debate But to Bless you all and just continue on my walk with the Lord Jesus!! DO I SPEAK IN TONGUES PERSONALLY YES!!! IM FILLED WITH THE GREAT HOLY GHOST!!! AND JESUS IS KING OVER MY LIFE!! Now you can belive how you want to believe i don't really care i believe what the Bible says and that is not up for discussion

I Will not debate with you nor anyone else on this forum no point i pray that you have a clear revalation on Tongues and power of speaking and praying in tongues and that God would show u and make it clear in Jesus Name Amen !!!!

Hi there SOE, I know you do not want to discuss this issue of tongues; although you did post it in the Bible Discussion Forum, but I just need to correct what you said.

And I will correct you with the Scriptures.

If you want a clear revelation on tongues. Here it is:

Tongues are languages. IN the King James Holy Bible, the word "tongues" and "languages" are used interchangeably.


Example:


Genesis 10:5

Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

5 By these were the isles of the Gentiles divided in their lands; every one after his tongue, after their families, in their nations.



Genesis 10:20

Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

20 These are the sons of Ham, after their families, after their tongues, in their countries, and in their nations.




Genesis 10:31

Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

31 These are the sons of Shem, after their families, after their tongues, in their lands, after their nations.



Genesis 11:1

Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

11 And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech.



Genesis 11:6-9

Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

6 And the Lord said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do. 7 Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another’s speech. 8 So the Lord scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city. 9 Therefore is the name of it called Babel; because the Lord did there confound the language of all the earth: and from thence did the Lord scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth.


Tongues are simply languages.


Acts 2:1-21

Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

2 And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place. 2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting. 3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them. 4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.
5 And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven. 6 Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language. 7 And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilæans? 8 And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born? 9 Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judæa, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia, 10 Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes, 11 Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God. 12 And they were all amazed, and were in doubt, saying one to another, What meaneth this? 13 Others mocking said, These men are full of new wine.
14 But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judæa, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words: 15 for these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is but the third hour of the day. 16 But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel; 17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: 18 and on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy: 19 and I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke: 20 the sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come: 21 and it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.


And the truth of the matter is that technically, every one speaks in a tongue. I speak in the English tongue. I know people who speak in the English and Spanish tongue, etc.


Tongues are always earthly languages. And if the "tongues" that you are speaking is not an earthly language, and if it is this mystical language that you or no one else can understand or interpret. Then the "tongues" which you are speaking are not Biblical.


In Acts 2, the tongues (languages) which the Apostles were speaking on the Day of Pentecost are listed in that chapter.


Furthermore, here is more revelation on the matter of tongues. And that is this:


The Gift of speaking in other tongues is no longer active. It is not active for today.


The Sign Gift of Speaking in other tongues which only the Apostles had, ceased when the Apostolic ministry ceased.


1 Corinthians 13:8-13

Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away. 9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. 10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.
11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. 12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known. 13 And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.




1 Corinthians 1:21-24

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21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe. 22 For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom: 23 but we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness; 24 but unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.


The Jews require a sign. Not the Gentiles.




1 Corinthians 14:22

Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)


22 Wherefore tongues are for a sign, not to them that believe, but to them that believe not: but prophesying serveth not for them that believe not, but for them which believe.


Tongues are not for those that believe (born again Christians), but they are for those that believe not (the Jews).


So the Biblical Sign Gift of speaking with new tongues (Mark 16:17-18) is not active today. Just as the Sign Gift of instantaneous healing is not active today.


Today in the Church Age, God is dealing with the Gentile nations.


And the Apostolic Sign Gifts were given to Israel, and not to the Body of Christ.


After the Rapture of the Body of Christ, God will once again be dealing with the Nation of Israel. So in the time of Jacob's trouble (Daniel's 70th week), Signs and Wonders will be brought back in. Since the Jews require a Sign (1 Cor. 1:22).












 
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People are not supposed to argue over scriptures. Christians are supposed to love one another and work together to preach the gospel to a lost generation. It hurts God's heart when he sees his children fighting and arguing. Acting like the world is not gonna bring people to Christ. Christians should be walking, talking, and acting like Jesus. To understand the heart of God look no further than the cross. Jesus was our perfect example of how we can live a life of holiness in this corrupt evil generation that we live in. The only reason why God has blessed America was we were a friend to Israel. America used to be a Godly nation, but they have rejected God. It seems like our government has given more rights to gays. People like me who believe that racism and homosexuality is wrong get harrased by the police. Wakeup my brothas and sistas. There is an attack against Christianity. Don't be afraid. Satan is on borrowed time. Jesus defeated him at Calvary. How do we defeat Satan?? It's very simple. We defeat him with the power of the Holy Ghost, the name of Jesus, and the Word of God. Preacha24-7
 
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By posting "religious devils" you have just announced to everyone that you are not of Christ. If you were, you would not call those who want to discuss the Lord and what He wants of us "religious devils". People who live to reflect Christ don't judge the people who are speaking of God's ways as they understand it.

We have several posters here who judge and fight. Most simply ignore all they say, and if it gets too bad they are banned.

I am very disappointed in you! I was so impressed with your ability to speak in tongues. My girl friend told me what a blessing it was to her. I hope you soon meet your Lord and Savior so you can join us in our discussions.
I am in the Lord Jesus and I BELIEVE IN HIM WITH ALL MY HEART! But there are relgious spirits(Devils) who speak through people and i will address them as they are cause they need that devil cast out of them but other then that lol u can state all that you want i know im in the Lord Jesus Christ and Saved born again and filled with the Holy Ghost !!!!
 
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Hi there SOE, I know you do not want to discuss this issue of tongues; although you did post it in the Bible Discussion Forum, but I just need to correct what you said.

And I will correct you with the Scriptures.

If you want a clear revelation on tongues. Here it is:

Tongues are languages. IN the King James Holy Bible, the word "tongues" and "languages" are used interchangeably.


Example:


Genesis 10:5

Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

5 By these were the isles of the Gentiles divided in their lands; every one after his tongue, after their families, in their nations.



Genesis 10:20

Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

20 These are the sons of Ham, after their families, after their tongues, in their countries, and in their nations.




Genesis 10:31

Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

31 These are the sons of Shem, after their families, after their tongues, in their lands, after their nations.



Genesis 11:1

Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

11 And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech.



Genesis 11:6-9

Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

6 And the Lord said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do. 7 Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another’s speech. 8 So the Lord scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city. 9 Therefore is the name of it called Babel; because the Lord did there confound the language of all the earth: and from thence did the Lord scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth.


Tongues are simply languages.


Acts 2:1-21

Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

2 And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place. 2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting. 3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them. 4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.
5 And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven. 6 Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language. 7 And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilæans? 8 And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born? 9 Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judæa, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia, 10 Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes, 11 Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God. 12 And they were all amazed, and were in doubt, saying one to another, What meaneth this? 13 Others mocking said, These men are full of new wine.
14 But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judæa, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words: 15 for these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is but the third hour of the day. 16 But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel; 17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: 18 and on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy: 19 and I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke: 20 the sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come: 21 and it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.


And the truth of the matter is that technically, every one speaks in a tongue. I speak in the English tongue. I know people who speak in the English and Spanish tongue, etc.


Tongues are always earthly languages. And if the "tongues" that you are speaking is not an earthly language, and if it is this mystical language that you or no one else can understand or interpret. Then the "tongues" which you are speaking are not Biblical.


In Acts 2, the tongues (languages) which the Apostles were speaking on the Day of Pentecost are listed in that chapter.


Furthermore, here is more revelation on the matter of tongues. And that is this:


The Gift of speaking in other tongues is no longer active. It is not active for today.


The Sign Gift of Speaking in other tongues which only the Apostles had, ceased when the Apostolic ministry ceased.


1 Corinthians 13:8-13

Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away. 9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. 10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.
11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. 12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known. 13 And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.




1 Corinthians 1:21-24

Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe. 22 For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom: 23 but we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness; 24 but unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.


The Jews require a sign. Not the Gentiles.




1 Corinthians 14:22

Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)


22 Wherefore tongues are for a sign, not to them that believe, but to them that believe not: but prophesying serveth not for them that believe not, but for them which believe.


Tongues are not for those that believe (born again Christians), but they are for those that believe not (the Jews).


So the Biblical Sign Gift of speaking with new tongues (Mark 16:17-18) is not active today. Just as the Sign Gift of instantaneous healing is not active today.


Today in the Church Age, God is dealing with the Gentile nations.


And the Apostolic Sign Gifts were given to Israel, and not to the Body of Christ.


After the Rapture of the Body of Christ, God will once again be dealing with the Nation of Israel. So in the time of Jacob's trouble (Daniel's 70th week), Signs and Wonders will be brought back in. Since the Jews require a Sign (1 Cor. 1:22).












No Correction u need a revelation of tongues ur stating and assuming stuff that i said that i never said please know im not here to debate would love to have a convo with u on the mic in christian chat
 
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revelation is the word

Illumination is what the holy spirit does