Suicide

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TashMeyer76

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What is the bible's take on suicide? Is there concrete text or scripture that condemns those who commit suicide. If my memory serves me right - many ministers refer to "Judas' Suicide" as a sign that man taking their own lives is sinful in the eyes of God. Where does it state that those who commit suicide is excluded from the Grace of God?
 
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TashMeyer76

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Just to clarify - I'm NOT suicidal LOL
 
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GOAC4CHRIST

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The ten commandments says do not kill,committing suicide is taking away life.
 
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mellowED

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God is the only one that can truly answer this question.
My brother committed suicide when I was young, and I have been looking to answer this
question my entire life.
 
secularhermit

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Suicide is self-homicide... that is in the 10 comanndments.
 
thecreationtutor

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Isn't all sin forgiveable by the work of Jesus Christ? If we are saved, are we any more or less saved if we sin? Does this come from a belief that if we die, and we forgot to repent of sin, that we'd go to hell? I don't think this is a simple surface question - but a question meant to lead to other questions - when simply put - if you are Christian - if you are bought by the blood of the lamb - you are saved, you are being saved, and you will be saved - because your sins past, present, and future are forgiven
 
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TashMeyer76 said:
What is the bible's take on suicide? Is there concrete text or scripture that condemns those who commit suicide. If my memory serves me right - many ministers refer to "Judas' Suicide" as a sign that man taking their own lives is sinful in the eyes of God. Where does it state that those who commit suicide is excluded from the Grace of God?
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When it is time to go, that person will leave. No one can't take their own life but God. Saul has taken his own life, but it was God's will for him to leave. But if someone has died from a suicide still has to worry about if they have had enough oil before leaving.

Ecclesiastes 3:2
a time to be born and a time to die, a time to plant and a time to uproot,

John 10:18
No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father.”

Matthew 27:50
And when Jesus had cried out again in a loud voice, he gave up his spirit.

Matthew 25:10
“But while they were on their way to buy the oil, the bridegroom arrived. The virgins who were ready went in with him to the wedding banquet. And the door was shut.

Psalm 23:5
You prepare a table before me in the presence of my enemies. You anoint my head with oil; my cup overflows.


 
SpiritofElijah

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TashMeyer76 said:
Thanks Phil!
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1 cor. 3:17
If any man destroys the temple of God, God will destroy him, for the temple of God is holy, and that is what you are.

1 cor. 6:19
Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and that you are not your own?


 
RedTent

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mellowED said:
God is the only one that can truly answer this question.
My brother committed suicide when I was young, and I have been looking to answer this
question my entire life.
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When my friend emailed me a "goodbye", I, another friend, and the police arrived in time to save her. She is bipolar, and she hadn't been taking her medicine. She said that her life belonged to her, she had a right to do with it as she pleased, and what she wanted to do with it was not live with any more of the pain.

Saving her was a matter of convincing her that God gave her life in the first place, so she wasn't given permission to take that life.

It would be terrible to face, but I don't think your brother had the right to take his life. That leaves the question I have of God, if my friend had been successful it was the physical lack of a chemical in her brain that was the reason she wanted to kill herself. Would God forgive her based on the reason she had that desire?
 
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thecreationtutor said:
Isn't all sin forgiveable by the work of Jesus Christ? If we are saved, are we any more or less saved if we sin? Does this come from a belief that if we die, and we forgot to repent of sin, that we'd go to hell? I don't think this is a simple surface question - but a question meant to lead to other questions - when simply put - if you are Christian - if you are bought by the blood of the lamb - you are saved, you are being saved, and you will be saved - because your sins past, present, and future are forgiven
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That simply can not be, for everything our God tells us can be seen as how it works out in our world. We are offered salvation for any sin but one, but we have a part to play in that salvation and that part is repentance. I think you can have a spirit of repentance, that spirit would be with you always and it would be a spirit of obedience. We say it in our prayers when we say "deliver us from evil".

If what you say is correct, then a Christian could commit, for instance, murder and it would be OK. That is not so.
 
SpiritofElijah

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RedTent said:
When my friend emailed me a "goodbye", I, another friend, and the police arrived in time to save her. She is bipolar, and she hadn't been taking her medicine. She said that her life belonged to her, she had a right to do with it as she pleased, and what she wanted to do with it was not live with any more of the pain.

Saving her was a matter of convincing her that God gave her life in the first place, so she wasn't given permission to take that life.

It would be terrible to face, but I don't think your brother had the right to take his life. That leaves the question I have of God, if my friend had been successful it was the physical lack of a chemical in her brain that was the reason she wanted to kill herself. Would God forgive her based on the reason she had that desire?
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I belive He would and Let me tell you why because that Scripture i posed said if any man would commit destroy his temple
so let me speak this to you Yes because the disease is just a demon a disorder and can be rebuked and she can be healed in the Name of JESUS but if she was to commit suicide it would be because the demon oppressing her so much and if not saved possessing her so much she would take her life under the control of that demon this is what we call a stronghold
but if she is not saved then she would still face condemnation but if she has Jesus and she did this under the opression of a stronghold that she could not control then i believe she would be forgiven
 
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TashMeyer76

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Well brother that's quite nifty! Thanks for sharing :)
SpiritofElijah said:
1 cor. 3:17
If any man destroys the temple of God, God will destroy him, for the temple of God is holy, and that is what you are.

1 cor. 6:19
Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and that you are not your own?
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peacefulbeliever

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mellowED said:
God is the only one that can truly answer this question.
My brother committed suicide when I was young, and I have been looking to answer this
question my entire life.
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God bless you mellowED my brother also committed suicide - I don't think that he believed in God or Christ - (although I can't say for certain only God knows) but if he hadn't accepted Christ then he dies in condemnation. I believe that if he had faith in Christ then he will be raised to eternal life - as I said only God can know his heart condition.
 
RedTent

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SpiritofElijah said:
I belive He would and Let me tell you why because that Scripture i posed said if any man would commit destroy his temple
so let me speak this to you Yes because the disease is just a demon a disorder and can be rebuked and she can be healed in the Name of JESUS but if she was to commit suicide it would be because the demon oppressing her so much and if not saved possessing her so much she would take her life under the control of that demon this is what we call a stronghold
but if she is not saved then she would still face condemnation but if she has Jesus and she did this under the opression of a stronghold that she could not control then i believe she would be forgiven
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The production of the chemicals our brain uses is a matter of demons? Is that true of cancer, or babies born with such as a malformed heart? I don't think so. God does not want these things for us, but to say it is demons we can pray away is not reasonable. Paul said he had something wrong that he had to put up with, and Paul didn't say it was demons.
 
SpiritofElijah

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RedTent said:
The production of the chemicals our brain uses is a matter of demons? Is that true of cancer, or babies born with such as a malformed heart? I don't think so. God does not want these things for us, but to say it is demons we can pray away is not reasonable. Paul said he had something wrong that he had to put up with, and Paul didn't say it was demons.
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oK WELL LET ME EXPLAIN
When we are born we are in our fallen state and sin what does it lead too death so yes when your born with a disease its not of God why look at what the bible says by Jesus Stripes you are Healed or thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven?? is there any disease in heaven?? no so therefore we do not have to tolerate disease disease is a curse just a devil with a name that man has placed on it. it is a curse in operation the moment that one believes in Jesus Messiah can be freed from that sickness!
ok pauls thorn if you look in chronological order right after he talked about the thorns and my grace is sufficent is when paul started learning about spiritual warfare and wrote about it. And we can take authority over any disease some require fasting and praying but we have authority to heal the sick raise the dead cast out devils speak in new tongues ect.
 
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reject-tech

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I think most people overlook something about suicide.
When someone we love commits suicide, we go through a certain kind of heartbreak.
God does too.
Difference is, we are not able to make it all better and bring that person back. God is.
Both are willing.
 
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twotwo

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TashMeyer76 said:
What is the bible's take on suicide? Is there concrete text or scripture that condemns those who commit suicide. If my memory serves me right - many ministers refer to "Judas' Suicide" as a sign that man taking their own lives is sinful in the eyes of God. Where does it state that those who commit suicide is excluded from the Grace of God?
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Those who commit suicide leave behind them a lot of suffering. They are destroying the heart of their family. Hurting them forever in the deepest part of their soul.

You can be certain that nobody will inherit the Kingdom of God because they kill themselves. Indeed, Jesus clearly said that those who commit evil would not inherit eternal Life.
 
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BeanieD

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I don't know right off avout a verse, but God created all of us for a reason, and so who are we to take away what God has created. It is His decision when it is our time, not us. I think the verses about the potter and clay are an example, but I don't know where they are right now.

Blessings
 
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