The prophecy about Paul/Wolf in OT, The Murderer-Pharisee-False Apostle, his success.

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Have you read/researched about doctrines/writings/life of apostle Paul and noticed why there many contradictions in it and many unbelievable stories(specially his conversion)? Have you ever wondered why there are many Christian denominations today? I'll tell you why Paul is a murderer, a pharisee, a liar, a false apostle, a divider of the church(with his dangerous doctrine). Note: Sorry if I offended some of you.

First let's read about the prophecy of the tribe of Benjamin / ravenous wolves in Genesis/Matthew.

[SUP]Genesis 49 27 [/SUP]“Benjamin is a ravenous wolf;
in the morning he devours the prey,
in the evening he divides the plunder.

[SUP]Matthew 7 15-20 [/SUP]“Watch out for false prophets(or false teachers). They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious(or ravenous) wolves. By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.

So why was "ravenous wolf" term used here by both.

First read this --> Why Dogs Can Be Tamed But Wolves Cannot. In short, a wolf cannot be tamed. What he was in the beginning is what he will be in the end(still ravenous).

Now who is from the tribe of Benjamin? Who is the ravenous wolf - who will at first(in the morning) devours the prey, next(in the evening) divides the plunder?

Rom 11:1
I say then, Elohiym has not cast away His people. Because I am also an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, OF THE TRIBE OF BENJAMIN.

Philippians 3: 5
Circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, an Hebrew of the Hebrews; as touching the law, a Pharisee;

Now we already know for sure that Paul was of the tribe of Benjamin. We also know that Paul was persecutor of the saints/apostles then after that a miraculous change happened after seeing light from heaven
who claims to be Jesus.

Now let's see if this fits:
In the morning devours the prey, in the evening divides the plunder. [In the morning] = [Before or First], [In the evening] = [After or Last], [devours the prey] = [a killer or a murderer or a persecutor], [divide the spoil] = [divide the loot/church/people].

No doubt this verse talks about Paul. He was a persecutor of the saints at before, and after he divided the people.(see how many Christian denominations today ex. Paulinian messianic Jew/ Anti-Paul messianic Jew, Roman Catholic, Protestant, many more...). He never changed his ways but only changed his image(remember wolf in sheep's clothing..awoooo!).


Now on Paul's Conversion:

Acts of the Apostles 9
Suddenly, while he was traveling to Damascus and just before he reached the city, there came a light from heaven all around him. He fell to the ground, and then he heard a voice saying, "Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting me?" "Who are you, Lord?" he asked, and the voice answered, "I am Jesus, and you are persecuting me. Get up now and go into the city, and you will be told what you have to do." The men traveling with Saul stood there speechless, for though they had heard the voice they could see no one. Saul got up from the ground, but even with his eyes wide open he could see nothing at all, and they had to lead him into Damascus by the hand. For three days he was without his sight, and took neither food nor drink.

His conversion is unique. But what did the timothy say/warn about Paul while he was with him.

2 Corinthians 11 13-15
For such people are false apostles, deceitful workers, masquerading as apostles of Christ.
And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. It is not surprising, then, if his servants also masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.

Some laugh and say that this was written by Paul. But it's not true, you can determine Paul's writings -hard to understand, boastful and there are techniques used to determine(ex. tone).

Paul the apostle and "Timothy our brother" wrote this epistle to "the church of God which is at Corinth, with all the saints which are in all Achaia.
source -> Second Epistle to the Corinthians - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

People wonder why did they let Paul get along with them if they knew he was an enemy and why Peter acknowledged Paul?

Remember Jesus commandment to his true Disciple/Apostles/Follower? Let's read Matthew again.

Matthew 5: 43 -45
Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

Pro-Paul common stance/ usual reply:
Look at this verse: Romans: blahx2... Philippians: blahx3.... They agree with each other's doctrine with Matthew blahx2.. and Peter blahx2..

Please don't use a teaching of Paul that makes sense to solve another doctrine of his that is a lie. Remember what Paul was? -> a Pharisee -> if he was alive today, a lawyer(what do lawyers do?). Do you know how good liars lie? If not read this -> Half-truth - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Picking out truths does not answer/solve/correct/fix the lies in the scriptures as he is using half-truth technique. Paul's doctrine is very dangerous - there are plenty of victims already.

This verse is just an example of the dangerous doctrine of Paul(Personally I have seen many people/denomination mislead by this line/verse alone). There are also many other contradictions and false doctrines,you can research/google them.

Paul:
Romans 10:9
that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved;

Jesus:
Matthew 7:21
"Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter.

Best Solution: Avoid Paul's dangerous doctrines and follow only Jesus.

Psalm 19:7
The law of the LORD is perfect, restoring the soul; The testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.

Next Topic: Why the Book of Revelation is a false prophesy.
 
Feb 23, 2013
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i think what you are doing is not the work of God and will ultimately fail. and you might want to be careful of calling a book in the word of God false because it will not end well. plus lots of the book of revelations is happening now and has happened so both your doctrine of paul and revelations kinda falls on itself
 

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Paul was a murderer and a liar and a Pharisee but then he got born again.
 
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His first post, ladies and gents.
 

breno785au

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Good thing I'm not waved about with every wind of doctrine :cool:
 
Feb 15, 2014
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i think what you are doing is not the work of God and will ultimately fail. and you might want to be careful of calling a book in the word of God false because it will not end well. plus lots of the book of revelations is happening now and has happened so both your doctrine of paul and revelations kinda falls on itself
Book of revelation happening now? how? what? Easy to say that I fail without backing up facts/info. Common replies of hurt people reading the truth. Truth hurts.
 

Pres19

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How is it false doctrine when Paul said "Confess with your mouth Jesus is Lord"?
If we confess that then we are saved.

I was always told the reason behind Jesus saying " not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. " was to help us better understand we must do Gods will.

Now I could be wrong.. but I have always believed that to be "saved" was just to have your eyes be opened to who Jesus is and why he died for us. But just being "saved" isn't going to give you a free ride into heaven doing the will of God will get you there.
 
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Never knew there were haters of Paul like this today?

Could it be he preached on homosexuality, and fornication?
Could it be he preached on order in the church?
Could it be he preached on biblical gender roles?
Could it be he preached about salvation as Jesus Christ alone, grace alone, faith alone?
Could it be he preached on sanctification, and living a life pleasing to God?
Could it be he preached against works based living of the Law?

nothing like a mid 20's guy single guy coming on the posts, and acting like he knows everything, that everything we have believed is wrong, and he's the answer

this is foolishness
 
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"As for a person who stirs up division, after warning him once and then twice, have nothing more to do with him, knowing that such a person is warped and sinful; he is self -condemned." Titus 3:10-11

of course this person does not listen to Paul so this quote is for the faithful, not him.
 
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You didn't offend me, but rather proved your ignorance of scripture!....now if I offended you because my use of (ignorance)...all I can say is the word just simply means that you don't know what you are talking about so don't be offended.
 
Feb 23, 2013
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Never knew there were haters of Paul like this today?

Could it be he preached on homosexuality, and fornication?
Could it be he preached on order in the church?
Could it be he preached on biblical gender roles?
Could it be he preached about salvation as Jesus Christ alone, grace alone, faith alone?
Could it be he preached on sanctification, and living a life pleasing to God?
Could it be he preached against works based living of the Law?

nothing like a mid 20's guy single guy coming on the posts, and acting like he knows everything, that everything we have believed is wrong, and he's the answer

this is foolishness
actually yes believe it or not there are many like this. the belief of paul being a false apostle is a new and growing thing, no doubt the devils work to lead ppl astray