Will the Saints "Rule Over Cities" in the Millennium??

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I can't recall where, but I read that we will rule over cities here on earth during Jesus' 1,000 year Reign on Earth. If that's the case, how will we rule over cities?
 

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Jesus has been reigning since His resurrection and ascension and will do so until His second coming...
Acts 2:29-33
29 Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day.
30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;
31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.
32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.
33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.

Hebrews 1:3-8
3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;
4 Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.
5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?
6 And again, when he bringeth in the first begotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.
7 And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.
8 But unto the Son he saith,
Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

...and Christians, who have been redeemed by His blood, are reigning with Him as kings and priests unto God... :)


Romans 5:17 For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)

Ephesians 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:

Ephesians 2:5-6 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved) And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:

Revelation 5:9-10 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

 
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Here in Revelations 21:22-27 there is mention of the Holy City:
22 I did not see a temple in it, for Jehovah God the Almighty is its temple, also the Lamb is. 23 And the city has no need of the sun nor of the moon to shine on it, for the glory of God illuminated it, and its lamp was the Lamb. 24 And the nations will walk by means of its light, and the kings of the earth will bring their glory into it. 25 Its gates will not be closed at all by day, for night will not exist there. 26 And they will bring the glory and the honor of the nations into it. 27 But anything defiled and anyone who does what is disgusting and deceitful will in no way enter into it; only those written in the Lamb’s scroll of life will enter.(Revelations 21:22_27) Is this the city you are inquiring about?
 
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Revelation 5:10 May be the scripture you are thinking of.

"and hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth."

As I understand it, Jesus Christ will reign for 1,000 years after the great tribulation. Christ will return and cleanse and purify the earth and he will rule the earth from Jerusalem for 1,000 years. Those he chooses will reign with him (be his ambassadors) and each will have their jurisdiction to rule with him, none will act on their own but will do as The Lord instructs them. There will be no death during these years, and all who dwell on the earth will know that Jesus is Lord.
What I find most interesting about this is after the 1,000 years of the Lord's reign satan will be set free and will return to deceive those on the earth and even after being in a paradise earth with Christ as King many will follow satan into rebellion and try to defeat Jesus Christ once again.
This will show to all who say if God was real he would not allow evil to exist, but would reveal himself and end evil. Because even after revealing himself and ruling the earth in person many will still turn away from him and desire the darkness rather than the light. God will certainly show that humanity has no excuse to reject him, but by their own will chose to not be with him.

May we all be found worthy to be with our Lord, and serve Him all the days of our lives.
 

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It is a faithful saying:

For if we be dead with him, we shall also live with him:
if we suffer, we shall also reign with him:
if we deny him, he also will deny us:
if we believe not, yet he abideth faithful:
he cannot deny himself.

(2 Timothy 2:11-13)
 

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[h=3]John 18:36[/h]New King James Version (NKJV)

36 Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so that I should not be delivered to the Jews; but now My kingdom is not from here.”


[h=3]2 Corinthians 5:20[/h]New King James Version (NKJV)

20 Now then, we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God were pleading through us: we implore you on Christ’s behalf, be reconciled to God.



The millennium you speak of is an on going time period from the flaming Rock of Christ, being cut out of a mountain by the hand of God, crushing and grinding the 4 ungodly governmental eras in Daniels dream. By our actions, the love of Christ, sound biblical preaching, evangelism, all good works through the HOLY SPIRIT we are judging the Nations in the same way the law and prophets judged and witnessed against ancient Jerusalem. When Christ comes again, those who are/were enemies against God will be without excuse and their final sentence Christ will proclaim!
 

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I can't recall where, but I read that we will rule over cities here on earth during Jesus' 1,000 year Reign on Earth. If that's the case, how will we rule over cities?
You are thinking of Luke 19v12-27 (esp 19v17)...

We do NOT reign as kings until the Millennium, in this present age of Grace we are priests (of Melchizedek priesthood), the Lord Jesus being our Great High Priest after the Order of Melchezedek. 1Peter 2v1-10, Heb 5v6,10, Rev 20v4...

Yahweh Shalom...
 

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You are thinking of Luke 19v12-27 (esp 19v17)...

We do NOT reign as kings until the Millennium, in this present age of Grace we are priests (of Melchizedek priesthood), the Lord Jesus being our Great High Priest after the Order of Melchezedek. 1Peter 2v1-10, Heb 5v6,10, Rev 20v4...

Yahweh Shalom...
[h=3]Revelation 1:6[/h]Young's Literal Translation (YLT)

6 and did make us kings and priests to his God and Father, to him [is] the glory and the power to the ages of the ages! Amen.


[h=3]Revelation 1:6[/h]New King James Version (NKJV)

6 and has made us kings and priests to His God and Father, to Him be glory and dominion forever and ever. Amen.



Sounds like it's a done deal to me, we are both Kings and priests in this present age.
 
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I can't recall where, but I read that we will rule over cities here on earth during Jesus' 1,000 year Reign on Earth. If that's the case, how will we rule over cities?
What you refer to as "Jesus' 1000 year reign on earth" is the kingdom, of God, of heaven. It, obviously, is that which the dead in Christ, and those alive in the same will inherit "at his coming" (1 Cor. 15:23), when "the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a shout" (1 Thess. 4:16). Yes, when this happens these resurrected saints will rule over cities, cities and nations ("we shall reign on the earth...over the nations" [Rev. 2:26; 5:10). Jesus also promised this when saying "the meek shall inherit the earth" (Matt. 5:5).
The city ("cities") subject you refer to is in the parable of the ten pounds (Luke 19:12-27). Jesus, in this parable, is describing the role "have thou authority over ten cities" (v. 17) that resurrected saints will play when he descends from heaven the second and last time. Interestingly, and ignored by organized religion is how Jesus ends this parable.

But those mine enemies, which would not that I should rule over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. Luke 19:27

His enemies, those who persecuted and killed him, were the Judean Pharisees and their loyalists. Those of this mindset are alive and well today, but will not be "at his coming" (1 Cor. 15:23). It is then that their chosen people masquerade will be over. It is then that "...the synagogue of Satan" (Rev. 2:9; 3:9), that these counterfeit Jews will be dealt with:

"...when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord..." 2 Thess. 1:7-9

So yes, to rule and reign with Jesus over cities and nations in the kingdom of God on earth will be the role of resurrected saints. Do not then be deceived with the go-to-heaven idea, that which is taught by organized religion, it is opposed to "the gospel of the kingdom" (Matt. 4:23) the message taught by Jesus and the NT writers.

 
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I can't recall where, but I read that we will rule over cities here on earth during Jesus' 1,000 year Reign on Earth. If that's the case, how will we rule over cities?

Yes Radius, if we suffer, we will also reign with Jesus Christ on the Earth during the 1,000 year Messianic Kingdom (2 Tim. 2:12).

Now the question you asked in the thread topic is a very good one. And I believe the answer is yes.

Now what determines how many cities one will rule over during the Millennial Kingdom most likely will depend on how faithful the Christian was to his service to the Lord while on this Earth. And of course; if the Christian suffered a lot for the cause of Jesus Christ, then the more number of cities and territories he will be given to rule over:


Matthew 24:42-47 KJV
Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. [43] But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up. [44] Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh. [45] Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season? [46] Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing. [47] Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods.


Matthew 25:14-30 KJV
For the kingdom of heaven is as a man travelling into a far country, who called his own servants, and delivered unto them his goods. [15] And unto one he gave five talents, to another two, and to another one; to every man according to his several ability; and straightway took his journey. [16] Then he that had received the five talents went and traded with the same, and made them other five talents. [17] And likewise he that had received two, he also gained other two. [18] But he that had received one went and digged in the earth, and hid his lord's money. [19] After a long time the lord of those servants cometh, and reckoneth with them. [20] And so he that had received five talents came and brought other five talents, saying, Lord, thou deliveredst unto me five talents: behold, I have gained beside them five talents more. [21] His lord said unto him, Well done, thou good and faithful servant: thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will make thee ruler over many things: enter thou into the joy of thy lord. [22] He also that had received two talents came and said, Lord, thou deliveredst unto me two talents: behold, I have gained two other talents beside them. [23] His lord said unto him, Well done, good and faithful servant; thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will make thee ruler over many things: enter thou into the joy of thy lord. [24] Then he which had received the one talent came and said, Lord, I knew thee that thou art an hard man, reaping where thou hast not sown, and gathering where thou hast not strawed: [25] And I was afraid, and went and hid thy talent in the earth: lo, there thou hast that is thine. [26] His lord answered and said unto him, Thou wicked and slothful servant, thou knewest that I reap where I sowed not, and gather where I have not strawed: [27] Thou oughtest therefore to have put my money to the exchangers, and then at my coming I should have received mine own with usury. [28] Take therefore the talent from him, and give it unto him which hath ten talents. [29] For unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but from him that hath not shall be taken away even that which he hath. [30] And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.



Luke 12:42-44 KJV
And the Lord said, Who then is that faithful and wise steward, whom his lord shall make ruler over his household, to give them their portion of meat in due season? [43] Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing. [44] Of a truth I say unto you, that he will make him ruler over all that he hath.
 
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Revelation 1:6

Young's Literal Translation (YLT)

6 and did make us kings and priests to his God and Father, to him [is] the glory and the power to the ages of the ages! Amen.


Revelation 1:6

New King James Version (NKJV)

6 and has made us kings and priests to His God and Father, to Him be glory and dominion forever and ever. Amen.



Sounds like it's a done deal to me, we are both Kings and priests in this present age.
Square it up with Rev 20v4! :p
 
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I can't recall where, but I read that we will rule over cities here on earth during Jesus' 1,000 year Reign on Earth. If that's the case, how will we rule over cities?
It's very clear,Saints of God will rule with iron rods and with power.Rev 2:27 KJV.
Proverbs 29:15 KJV talks about rod being used with reproof to give wisdom.What's going to happen in millennium is Perfect Reign of Christ done by Sons of God[Resurrected and Transfigured Saints) with Supreme authority.Rev 2:28 KJV.
Morning Star is Jesus Himself.The Saints will be like Gods.Real Genuine authority from God flows through them.They will rule with Righteousness of God and crush rebellion to put back Peace in world.The wicked people of those generations will have to restrain themselves of their carnal nature,due to the fear of "as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers".
You are not looking at human beings,the rulers are Supernatural beings(Sons of God of the New Testament).
God Bless.
 
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CC posters should be aware that "millennium," a word not in scripture, is being used as a diversion by those who teach in seminaries and Bible colleges. They do this to assist them in avoiding the fact that "the kingdom...of God...of heaven," the location of the saints after resurrection (1 Thess. 4:13-18; 1 Cor. 15, etc.) is---on earth. It is not, as they imply with their go-to-heaven teaching, up in heaven.
Neither, as the seminaries teach, do certain non-Christians, do their idea of God's chosen people inherit this kingdom. To inherit the kingdom of God requires the spiritual body, incorruption and immortality that will not be acquired until resurrection day (see 1 Cor. 15:44, 53-54). These, obviously, will not be acquired by other than those who rise in this resurrection. This excludes, historically, non-Christian people such as today's Pharisees. The dead in Phariseeism, and those alive in the same, will not rise in the resurrection, cannot therefore inherit the kingdom with Jesus ("at his coming" [1 Cor. 15:23]), and are not therefore the Israel of God. They are not, in other words Israelites, they are not those of whom God promised would inherit the kingdom of God on earth with Jesus. This is why the seminaries and Bible colleges would have us focus on a word (millennium) not in the Bible. It's their way of diverting attention from fact that the kingdom is not in heaven, and that it cannot be inherited by the dead in Phariseeism and those alive in the same (their counterfeit Israel). We should always raise a red flag when someone insists upon interpreting scriptural subjects, by using a word not in scripture. "Millennium" is one of these.



 
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CC posters should be aware that "millennium," a word not in scripture, is being used as a diversion by those who teach in seminaries and Bible colleges. They do this to assist them in avoiding the fact that "the kingdom...of God...of heaven," the location of the saints after resurrection (1 Thess. 4:13-18; 1 Cor. 15, etc.) is---on earth. It is not, as they imply with their go-to-heaven teaching, up in heaven.
Neither, as the seminaries teach, do certain non-Christians, do their idea of God's chosen people inherit this kingdom. To inherit the kingdom of God requires the spiritual body, incorruption and immortality that will not be acquired until resurrection day (see 1 Cor. 15:44, 53-54). These, obviously, will not be acquired by other than those who rise in this resurrection. This excludes, historically, non-Christian people such as today's Pharisees. The dead in Phariseeism, and those alive in the same, will not rise in the resurrection, cannot therefore inherit the kingdom with Jesus ("at his coming" [1 Cor. 15:23]), and are not therefore the Israel of God. They are not, in other words Israelites, they are not those of whom God promised would inherit the kingdom of God on earth with Jesus. This is why the seminaries and Bible colleges would have us focus on a word (millennium) not in the Bible. It's their way of diverting attention from fact that the kingdom is not in heaven, and that it cannot be inherited by the dead in Phariseeism and those alive in the same (their counterfeit Israel). We should always raise a red flag when someone insists upon interpreting scriptural subjects, by using a word not in scripture. "Millennium" is one of these.



ooooo...am scared,so is rapture.The term is not used.What i meant was 1000 years.
And if you look at Holy Scripture,there are no verses related to a Pre-trib Second Coming of Christ.We believe it as a mystery solved that Jesus will come in an hour that no one knows.i don't go to bible college and don't hold man's degree.i was given the passion from God to read the Holy Bible.And Saints who are going to be transfigured,and those saints who rose from the dead when the Trumpet blows during Christ's Secret Second coming are indeed the ones who are going to rule over the nations in 1000 years which is the millennium.What is so bad in that?Do you say the word sunday all the time and never noticed it was named after a pagan god?
But still i would like to get clarified if you quote verse by verse from Holy Scripture making it very clear how Resurrections are going to take place in their order.That will be a lot of help if you know something different from the already verified facts.
 

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Square it up with Rev 20v4! :p
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.

What I believe John saw was the beheaded saints prior to the fall of Jerusalem. These are the martyred Saints who are now with Christ. Once a person has authentically repented and believed in faith that Christ has become the ultimate sacrifice for the sins of world (their sins), they are placed into the family of God, his kingdom. Those who are alive on earth and who passed on, are equal members of His kingdom (but perhaps of different ranks). They were a witness for Christ just as we should be, and their witness still is event today because of the fruit God has produced through them. Thus their witness still reigns today. NOTICE that these are saints who passed on, but yet still live and reign as if alive. That's because those in Christ will never see (spiritual) death (John 11:26).

a thousand years: A thousand years is not to be taken as a literal number here. Please interpret Revelation with the rest of the 65 books of the bible. A thousand years can be used as a metaphor for an epic of time depending on the context in scripture. Strong's Greek: 5507. χίλιοι (chilioi) -- a thousand
 
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I can't recall where, but I read that we will rule over cities here on earth during Jesus' 1,000 year Reign on Earth. If that's the case, how will we rule over cities?
It is really difficult to find solid info outside of the Bible pertaining to your topic, which is an excellent one. I found a link after a long search that will provide some info about the saints roles during the millennial.

The Saints Ruling in the Millennial Kingdom
 
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yes we will. i had a dream once where god took me to a kingdom far above the earth and i was a prince however i have no interest in ruling or reigning over anyone or anything because i am not worthy and plus i only need god to be happy
 
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ooooo...am scared,so is rapture.The term is not used.What i meant was 1000 years.
And if you look at Holy Scripture,there are no verses related to a Pre-trib Second Coming of Christ.We believe it as a mystery solved that Jesus will come in an hour that no one knows.i don't go to bible college and don't hold man's degree.i was given the passion from God to read the Holy Bible.And Saints who are going to be transfigured,and those saints who rose from the dead when the Trumpet blows during Christ's Secret Second coming are indeed the ones who are going to rule over the nations in 1000 years which is the millennium.What is so bad in that?Do you say the word sunday all the time and never noticed it was named after a pagan god?
But still i would like to get clarified if you quote verse by verse from Holy Scripture making it very clear how Resurrections are going to take place in their order.That will be a lot of help if you know something different from the already verified facts.
You asked regarding the order of resurrections: That described by Paul in 1 Thess. 4:13-18 and 1 Cor. 15 does not occur before "...the first resurrection" (Rev. 20:5). There is a second resurrection, but it does not occur until "...a thousand years"(v. 5) later. During this time, this "thousand years" those raised in the "first resurrection" rule and reign with Jesus in the promised Christian theocracy, the kingdom of God on earth. Beware of seminary and Bible college trained teachers, those who, "with much words and fair speeches," will try to convince you that the resurrection in 1 Thess. 4:13-18 and 1 Cor. 15 occurrs---before "the first" (Rev. 20:5). They do this so as to create the idea of a second chance between two resurrections seven years apart. But there is no second chance. When Jesus descends from heaven the second (and last) time it's curtains for a nation of neo-Pharisees masquerading as Israel. Do not therefore be duped with the idea that the resurrection in described in 1 Thess. 4:13-18 and 1 Cor. 15 somehow occurs---before "the first resurrection" (Rev. 20:5). It does not. There is, however, another type of second chance. Called "repentance," it is available at this very moment.

 
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It is a faithful saying:

For if we be dead with him, we shall also live with him:
if we suffer, we shall also reign with him:
if we deny him, he also will deny us:
if we believe not, yet he abideth faithful:
he cannot deny himself.

(2 Timothy 2:11-13)
Thank the God of heaven for the truths that are found in this set of verses!
 
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So far, about fourteen people have replied to this thread and all mostly agree that it is resurrected saints who will rule and reign over cities and nations with, and for, Jesus. Paul, in explaining the resurrection stated, "...flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God" (1 Cor. 15:50). We can, however, inherit the kingdom of God once resurrected, when we receive the required "spiritual body" (v. 44), "incorruption" (v. 53) and "immortality" (v. 54). Only then is one fit to inherit the kingdom of God with Jesus.
Most of us, however, are overlooking the fact that the promised resurrection, to inherit the kingdom of God, was one of the promises of God---to Israel, to literal genetic Israel. How then can Israel, correctly identified, be, predominantly, a non-Christian people? How can the dead in Phariseeism and those alive in the same be Israel when they will not rise in the resurrection and cannot therefore inherit that which was promised to God's Israel covenant people? Israel, therefore, correctly identified, has to be, historically, a predominantly Christian people. Israel, in other words, would have to be one and the same with the people who, over the centuries, have been the nucleus of the church. Picture then the great evangelists of the twentieth, the nineteenth, and eighteenth centuries, and you will see a pattern. In them you will see the same people as those who created the Protestant Reformation. And, as history proves, those of the Protestant Reformation are descended from what used to be called "Christendom." Christianity then, over the centuries, has been very Eurocentric. Only a liar, or a fool would deny this. And, only the most naïve would assume that this is pure coincidence. So, where did these people, these custodians of the Bible and the Christian religion come from? Were they always in Europe? No, they were not always in Europe, not anymore than today's Pharisees, than the people of the Talmud were always in Europe. So, which of these people, those of historic Christianity, or those of historic Phariseeism, are going to prove they are Israel by inheriting the promised kingdom of God on resurrection day? Think about it.