Judging people (Matthew 7:1) VERSUS Warning people of their sins (Ezekial 3:18)

[DavidLOVESsnow]

So I am currently at a stale-mate on figuring out this problem. Here is the problem plain and simple:

How do we warn people of their sins (Ezekial 3:18) without judging people (Matthew 7:1)?

First off, when we tell people that what they are doing is sinful, aren't we at first judging their actions? Also, are we then also holding ourselves to a higher standard than our own (Matthew 7:1)? So my question is, in what way should we warn people of their sins, while not judging them (because we all have sinned and still sin by accident at times).

Basically, I just judged someone by trying to warn them of their sins (my mother) but I know I have problem with the same sins. Isn't it hypocritical of me to do so, and isnt it me judging her?

 

[oldernotwiser]

i'm not sure about warning people about their sins. when i do that i find that i'm at great risk of breaking the walls of my glass house. i think we might better show people the love of christ in our lives and in our dealings with them. when someone has fallen down it may be better to help them up, rather than standing by and telling them how careless they were to fall. then we might be a bit more believable when we talk of god and his love.

 

[DavidLOVESsnow]

i'm not sure about warning people about their sins. when i do that i find that i'm at great risk of breaking the walls of my glass house. i think we might better show people the love of christ in our lives and in our dealings with them. when someone has fallen down it may be better to help them up, rather than standing by and telling them how careless they were to fall. then we might be a bit more believable when we talk of god and his love.

Well heres the thing, let me quote Ezekial 3:18 for ya:
"When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand."

So basically, if you dont warn them it is indeed your own fault. Therefore if I see someone being a homosexual I need to tell them its wrong, or else if they end up in the everlasting fire their blood is on my hands for not atleast trying to warn them of their ways.

 

[reject-tech]

Ezekiel 3:18 is about warning people about blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, not every random sin.
And as the book specifies, it is a closed book to anyone who does not pre-qualify as a "Son of man", so the casual believer is not commissioned in Ezekiel to do this, or anything else in Ezekiel.
Only a "Son of man"

Same way that only a "servant of Jesus Christ" is addressed in the Revelation of Jesus Christ, not the casual believer, not the casual modern prophecy fanatic or end-time addict.

These pre-qualifications are met when a person actually follows Christ via His detailed instructions, rather than just believing various things preached in churches such as "altar calls", "sinner's prayers"m "rapture tickets" and "accepting Jesus" and so on.

You gotta lose your life while you are still alive to further the tangible and current easement and salvation of others, at cost of self, out of genuine brotherly love rather than fearful obedience. Like giving your last dollar (that you "need for bills") to a hungry stranger on the street, even repeatedly.
Christ can save a man from hunger or freezing to death, or even greater troubles, right now, not later, through His bride.

Turn away from antichrist and manifest love to the downtrodden.

The bride, in doing these things, is qualified to ask -

"Who is worthy?!"

Lorde - Team (Lyric Video) - YouTube

 

[DavidLOVESsnow]

Ezekiel 3:18 is about warning people about blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, not every random sin.
And as the book specifies, it is a closed book to anyone who does not pre-qualify as a "Son of man", so the casual believer is not commissioned in Ezekiel to do this, or anything else in Ezekiel.
Only a "Son of man"

Same way that only a "servant of Jesus Christ" is addressed in the Revelation of Jesus Christ, not the casual believer, not the casual modern prophecy fanatic or end-time addict.

These pre-qualifications are met when a person actually follows Christ via His detailed instructions, rather than just believing various things preached in churches such as "altar calls", "sinner's prayers"m "rapture tickets" and "accepting Jesus" and so on.

You gotta lose your life while you are still alive to further the tangible and current easement and salvation of others, at cost of self, out of genuine brotherly love rather than fearful obedience. Like giving your last dollar (that you "need for bills") to a hungry stranger on the street, even repeatedly.
Christ can save a man from hunger or freezing to death, or even greater troubles, right now, not later, through His bride.

Turn away from antichrist and manifest love to the downtrodden.

The bride, in doing these things, is qualified to ask -

"Who is worthy?!"

Lorde - Team (Lyric Video) - YouTube

Thank you for adding that here. Someone said something similar (I think it was thechristiantutor or thecreationtutor I forget his name) who brought up the same thing. I didnt read Ezekial I just saw that quote and was just curious about what it meant. Thank you though for the information God bless you and thanks again and God bless everyone who responded

 

[JesusLives]

Well heres the thing, let me quote Ezekial 3:18 for ya:
"When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand."

So basically, if you dont warn them it is indeed your own fault. Therefore if I see someone being a homosexual I need to tell them its wrong, or else if they end up in the everlasting fire their blood is on my hands for not atleast trying to warn them of their ways.

Most people already know what is right and wrong. I go about it more of introducing them to accept Jesus as their personal savior. We can invite people to come to Jesus and it is the Holy Spirits job to convict or convince of sin and truth. We come to Jesus just as we are and God helps us work out areas we need to change.

We need to work on the beam in our own eye and then we can help others with the splinter in their eye - but when we lead them to Jesus - He will work on their heart to make the changes needed.

Now if you help lead them to Jesus and they say no to His gift of salvation then that is their choice and you are not judging them, but they in essence have been warned.

 

[Stephen63]

Which epistle in the NT doesn't warn christians of sin? Jesus warned his disciples about the sins of the scribes & pharisees several times, & in public, too. John the Baptist did..... Stephen did, & was stoned for it, yet only he saw the heavens open & Jesus at the right hand of God. I'd say from that, he was right.

 

[PilgrimPassingThru]

I thought this one out of Leviticus was interesting given we are to love our neighbor as ourselves (Leviticus 19:18, Mark 12:31-33)

Not hating your brother

Lev 19:17 Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart:

thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.

Whereas Jesus says concerning those he loves

Rev 3:19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

Even as it also says

Prov 27:5 Open rebuke is better than secret love.

And likewise James says,

James 5:20 Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.

Saving his soul from death

Seeing, "love worketh no ill to his neighbour"... Rom 13:10

Its looked upon as a kindness when the righteous do so

Psalm 141:5 Let the righteous smite me;it shall be a kindness: and let him reprove me; it shall be an excellent oil, which shall not break my head: for yet my prayer also shall be in their calamities.

 

[coby]

So I am currently at a stale-mate on figuring out this problem. Here is the problem plain and simple:

How do we warn people of their sins (Ezekial 3:18) without judging people (Matthew 7:1)?

First off, when we tell people that what they are doing is sinful, aren't we at first judging their actions? Also, are we then also holding ourselves to a higher standard than our own (Matthew 7:1)? So my question is, in what way should we warn people of their sins, while not judging them (because we all have sinned and still sin by accident at times).

Basically, I just judged someone by trying to warn them of their sins (my mother) but I know I have problem with the same sins. Isn't it hypocritical of me to do so, and isnt it me judging her?

It's not hypocritical because you just speak to both of you in that case. I'd say: hey I know I do this exact same thing so lets both stop it now.

You can say hey what you do is wrong. Watch out! That's warning. But wrong judging is: you are a horrible person for doing that.

 

[Chuckt]

So I am currently at a stale-mate on figuring out this problem. Here is the problem plain and simple:

How do we warn people of their sins (Ezekial 3:18) without judging people (Matthew 7:1)?

First off, when we tell people that what they are doing is sinful, aren't we at first judging their actions? Also, are we then also holding ourselves to a higher standard than our own (Matthew 7:1)? So my question is, in what way should we warn people of their sins, while not judging them (because we all have sinned and still sin by accident at times).

Basically, I just judged someone by trying to warn them of their sins (my mother) but I know I have problem with the same sins. Isn't it hypocritical of me to do so, and isnt it me judging her?

Toleration is a judgment so you are still judging.

 

[coby]

What does the Bible mean that we are not to judge others?

 

[valiant]

Ezekiel 3:18 is about warning people about blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, not every random sin.
And as the book specifies, it is a closed book to anyone who does not pre-qualify as a "Son of man", so the casual believer is not commissioned in Ezekiel to do this, or anything else in Ezekiel.
Only a "Son of man"

Same way that only a "servant of Jesus Christ" is addressed in the Revelation of Jesus Christ, not the casual believer, not the casual modern prophecy fanatic or end-time addict.

These pre-qualifications are met when a person actually follows Christ via His detailed instructions, rather than just believing various things preached in churches such as "altar calls", "sinner's prayers"m "rapture tickets" and "accepting Jesus" and so on.

You gotta lose your life while you are still alive to further the tangible and current easement and salvation of others, at cost of self, out of genuine brotherly love rather than fearful obedience. Like giving your last dollar (that you "need for bills") to a hungry stranger on the street, even repeatedly.
Christ can save a man from hunger or freezing to death, or even greater troubles, right now, not later, through His bride.

Turn away from antichrist and manifest love to the downtrodden.

The bride, in doing these things, is qualified to ask -

"Who is worthy?!"

all who are Christians are 'sons of men' and 'servants' of Jesus Christ. None are worthy.

 

[valiant]

So I am currently at a stale-mate on figuring out this problem. Here is the problem plain and simple:

How do we warn people of their sins (Ezekial 3:18) without judging people (Matthew 7:1)?

First off, when we tell people that what they are doing is sinful, aren't we at first judging their actions? Also, are we then also holding ourselves to a higher standard than our own (Matthew 7:1)? So my question is, in what way should we warn people of their sins, while not judging them (because we all have sinned and still sin by accident at times).

Basically, I just judged someone by trying to warn them of their sins (my mother) but I know I have problem with the same sins. Isn't it hypocritical of me to do so, and isnt it me judging her?

when Jesus said 'judge not lest you be judged' He was thinking of condemnatory judgment,

elsewhere He said, Judge not according to appearances, but judge righteous judgment;

it is right that we first condemn sin in ourselves, and then point out to others for their good what is generally acknowledge as sin, so that they might be forgiven. But we must not do it judgmentally,
.

 

[FreeNChrist]

So I am currently at a stale-mate on figuring out this problem. Here is the problem plain and simple:

How do we warn people of their sins (Ezekial 3:18) without judging people (Matthew 7:1)?

First off, when we tell people that what they are doing is sinful, aren't we at first judging their actions? Also, are we then also holding ourselves to a higher standard than our own (Matthew 7:1)? So my question is, in what way should we warn people of their sins, while not judging them (because we all have sinned and still sin by accident at times).

Basically, I just judged someone by trying to warn them of their sins (my mother) but I know I have problem with the same sins. Isn't it hypocritical of me to do so, and isnt it me judging her?

If you are truly concerned about others sins, point them to Jesus, not to their sins.