Christians & Muslims serve same God says Hillsong's Brian Houston

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I've always been a little leary of receiving my theology from a musician (unless of course his name is King David).
I hope he gets some letters and makes a public correction.
 
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Uh...I'm not a big fan of the theology of Hillsong but I remember glancing at an article that said he recanted. Given, that article came out recently (sometime this week I believe).
 
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I've always been a little leary of receiving my theology from a musician (unless of course his name is King David).
I hope he gets some letters and makes a public correction.
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The only Christian artist I have found with good theology is Keith Green. I'm still on the hunt. Maybe I should just stick to hymns. Finding modern Christian singers who are sold out for Christ is tough.
 
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I find it hard to believe this was a "slight" slip up. Regardless of the recant, he must have believed it somewhere underneath to have had it pop out when he was preaching.

Our God is a God of holiness and love. He is transcendent and above all, but also immanent, and comes close to us through the incarnation of Jesus Christ.

Allah is only transcendent. He is above all, he has never come to earth to save humanity, and is capricious in whom he choses. The Muslim religion is one of works. And never knowing if those works are enough.

Perhaps that is why it is so essential that we stand against people who come into this forum, claiming a works-righteousness gospel. Because then we are no different than any other religion in the world, and Christ died in vain! Not a sacrifice, once for all.

Big mistake on Brian Houston's part! Bad theology, and a man who obviously has no understanding of the Bible or history. I have never liked Hillsong much, I guess I will continue to not listen to their music.
 
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I find it hard to believe this was a "slight" slip up. Regardless of the recant, he must have believed it somewhere underneath to have had it pop out when he was preaching.

Our God is a God of holiness and love. He is transcendent and above all, but also immanent, and comes close to us through the incarnation of Jesus Christ.

Allah is only transcendent. He is above all, he has never come to earth to save humanity, and is capricious in whom he choses. The Muslim religion is one of works. And never knowing if those works are enough.

Perhaps that is why it is so essential that we stand against people who come into this forum, claiming a works-righteousness gospel. Because then we are no different than any other religion in the world, and Christ died in vain! Not a sacrifice, once for all.

Big mistake on Brian Houston's part! Bad theology, and a man who obviously has no understanding of the Bible or history. I have never liked Hillsong much, I guess I will continue to not listen to their music.
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May I ask who you listen to?

And yeah you're probably right. I don't know much about Hillsong but I do remember hearing excruciatingly bad things about their theology. But on a purely unbiased scale, maybe the guy is/was just ignorant. It's not a good thing for a pastor to be, but it does happen sometimes. On a larger note, there are plenty of folks teaching in the pulpit who should be learning in the pews.
 
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Angela53510 said:
I find it hard to believe this was a "slight" slip up. Regardless of the recant, he must have believed it somewhere underneath to have had it pop out when he was preaching.

Our God is a God of holiness and love. He is transcendent and above all, but also immanent, and comes close to us through the incarnation of Jesus Christ.

Allah is only transcendent. He is above all, he has never come to earth to save humanity, and is capricious in whom he choses. The Muslim religion is one of works. And never knowing if those works are enough.

Perhaps that is why it is so essential that we stand against people who come into this forum, claiming a works-righteousness gospel. Because then we are no different than any other religion in the world, and Christ died in vain! Not a sacrifice, once for all.

Big mistake on Brian Houston's part! Bad theology, and a man who obviously has no understanding of the Bible or history. I have never liked Hillsong much, I guess I will continue to not listen to their music.
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How do people like this get such "successful" ministries?

There are people I disagree with on this forum whom have better theology than this guy. Those I disagree with would never even come close to saying something as blasphemous as saying the Christian God is the same as the Muslim god. Yet this guy has a HUGE ministry!
 
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Ecclesiastik said:
Uh...I'm not a big fan of the theology of Hillsong but I remember glancing at an article that said he recanted. Given, that article came out recently (sometime this week I believe).
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I couldn't find any such 'recant' article on the web. Can you give us any leads?
 
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They do. It is only one God, and He is demonstrated always by how one person treats another.
 
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They do. It is only one God, and He is demonstrated always by how one person treats another.
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They do? If it is the same God, how can He have a Son and not have a Son at the same time?
 
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They do? If it is the same God, how can He have a Son and not have a Son at the same time?
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I'm not talking about how it is expressed according to knowledge, but love. Through knowledge you should be more mature in having an understanding of what "son" means to God, even if the Muslim is not knowledgeable about it. Most Muslims I hear and see speak good of Jesus no matter how they see Him.

And besides, Jesus told you some would see Him as just a prophet among other things, but only by the Spirit of God revealing this can one see Him as a son.
 
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They do. It is only one God, and He is demonstrated always by how one person treats another.
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But...we don't worship the same God. Just because both believe there is one god doesn't mean they are the same. They do not believe in the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Neither do they believe the gospel of Jesus Christ the Son of God.
 
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But...we don't worship the same God. Just because both believe there is one god doesn't mean they are the same. They do not believe in the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Neither do they believe the gospel of Jesus Christ the Son of God.
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How many Gods are out there? If it is only one, then we know who we worship, even if they do not. Its only one.
 
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How many Gods are out there? If it is only one, then we know who we worship, even if they do not. Its only one.
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Jesus said if they don't know the Son, then they don't know the Father.
 
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He also said Father forgive them, for they know not what they do.
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That was while He was on the cross, when the Jews delivered Him over to the Gentiles to put Him to death.
 
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It is true that Christians & Muslims serve The same GOD known by different names in the middle eastern languages.
If we study historically we can find many topics are interconnected between The Bible & The Koran, especially in the Old Testament. The only difference is that, Muslims don't believe Jesus as son of God. But still Muslims used to worship "Isa" (Jesus) as a prophet of "Allah" (The God in the Bible "Jehova").
But I believe that our Muslim brothers & sisters will soon recognize Jesus as the son of almighty GOD, & will be saved.
AMEN.....!!!
 
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Did they know Him? You either do or you don't' and He asked for those who do not know Him to be forgiven.
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But, you must believe in who He is and what He has done to be forgiven. Otherwise you aren't forgiven at all. Jesus may have died for all, but few actually accept His atonement thus being forgiven and saved. Not everyone is saved.
 
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The Bible does not support this.
 
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