Is it true, Jesus tore the veil and religion sewed it back up?

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BenFTW

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I wonder how many people feel they must work to be in God's good graces and to be repentant to enter into His presence?
How many people do not come boldly before the throne of grace, and into the Holy of Hollies because of their sin? Do they not know that Jesus has torn the veil? Or, has religion with its rules and regulations tried sewing it back up closing the reconciliation that God, the Father has sought and purchased with the blood of Jesus, His Son?
 

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Perhaps they are afraid of the Light emanating from the torn veil and continue sewing their fig leaves instead.

Genesis 3:7-8 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.
And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden.

John 3:19-20 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
 

BenFTW

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Perhaps they are afraid of the Light emanating from the torn veil and continue sewing their fig leaves instead.

Genesis 3:7-8 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.
And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden.

John 3:19-20 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
That is where the gift of no condemnation comes in. "There is therefore now no condemnation for those that are in Christ." How boldly people could enter His presence knowing that He doesn't condemn them!
 
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That is where the gift of no condemnation comes in. "There is therefore now no condemnation for those that are in Christ." How boldly people could enter His presence knowing that He doesn't condemn them!
Romans 8 is such a thorough chapter doctrinally; its truth devastates fashionable religious thinking.
 
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This is what scripture is telling us when it speak of tearing the curtain: Mathew 27: 50 Jesus shouted again with a loud voice and gave up His spirit. 51 Suddenly, the curtain of the sanctuary was split in two from top to bottom; the earth quaked and the rocks were split. 52 The tombs were also opened and many bodies of the saints who had fallen asleep were raised.

If you will check all the scriptures of the OT, you will find that there is no scripture that tells of our life as being alive after our physical death. The first we hear of that was about the thief at the cross with Jesus. It often talks of the saints being asleep, etc. Now we see the superiority of the blood of Christ to the blood that only symbolized Christ, and how it affected all who had passed on before this crucifixion.

We must be precise in our thinking when we read scripture, so we do not read in what it says and we do not take away from what it says. In many other places we find that God will forgive all sin, it is part of how God operates, but this is what this particular scripture is about.
 
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How happy we can be that God has made it possible for us to overcome the law of sin and of death! Jesus said: “God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son, in order that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life.” By accepting God’s love and by exercising faith in the ransom sacrifice of Jesus Christ, we can be freed from the condemnation resulting from our inherited sin. (John 3:16-18) We may, therefore, be inclined to exclaim, as did Paul: “Thanks to God through Jesus Christ our Lord!”
 

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That is where the gift of no condemnation comes in. "There is therefore now no condemnation for those that are in Christ." How boldly people could enter His presence knowing that He doesn't condemn them!
yup, it's called free forgiveness thru the redemption found in Christ.
 

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This is what scripture is telling us when it speak of tearing the curtain: Mathew 27: 50 Jesus shouted again with a loud voice and gave up His spirit. 51 Suddenly, the curtain of the sanctuary was split in two from top to bottom; the earth quaked and the rocks were split. 52 The tombs were also opened and many bodies of the saints who had fallen asleep were raised.

If you will check all the scriptures of the OT, you will find that there is no scripture that tells of our life as being alive after our physical death. The first we hear of that was about the thief at the cross with Jesus. It often talks of the saints being asleep, etc. Now we see the superiority of the blood of Christ to the blood that only symbolized Christ, and how it affected all who had passed on before this crucifixion.

We must be precise in our thinking when we read scripture, so we do not read in what it says and we do not take away from what it says. In many other places we find that God will forgive all sin, it is part of how God operates, but this is what this particular scripture is about.
Here, this is more precise...

But as for me I know that my Redeemer lives, and at last he will stand up upon the earth. And after my skin, this [body], is destroyed, then outside my flesh I shall see God, whom I, even I, shall see on my side, and my eyes shall behold, and not as a stranger. My heart is consumed within me.
(Job 19:25-27)