Catholics deceived and hurt their own, in Baptism, for 1700 years.

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Mar 28, 2014
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Catholics deceived and hurt their own, in Baptism, for 1700 years.

The honorable Catholics gave out the information.
The others brutally fight back.
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Using the wrong Baptismal formula causes Spiritual Death and unhappiness.
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The Original Baptism is …calling on Jesus, for forgiveness and the good life,
from under the water, while still immersed.
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The Catholic Encyclopedia, II, page 263: "The baptismal formula was changed,from the name of Jesus Christto the words Father, Son, and Holy Spirit,by the Catholic Church in the second century."
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The Jerusalem Bible, a scholarly Catholic work, states: "It may be that this formula, (Triune Matthew 28:19),so far as the fullness of its expression is concerned,is a reflection of the (Man-made) liturgical usage,established later in the primitive (Catholic) communityIt will be remembered that Acts speaks of baptizing "in the name of Jesus,"..."
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The Catholic University of America in Washington, D. C. 1923,New Testament Studies Number 5: The Lord's Command To Baptize: An Historical Critical Investigation.By Bernard Henry Cuneo page 27."The passages in Acts and the Letters of St. Paul.These passages seem to point to the earliest form,as baptism in the name of the Lord."Also we find. "Is it (not) possible to reconcile these facts,with the beliefthat Christ commanded his disciples,to baptize in the trine form?Had Christ given such a command, it is urged,the Apostolic Church would have followed him,and we should have some trace of this obedience,in the New Testament.No such trace can be found.The only explanation of this silence,according to the anti-traditional view,is this the short Christological (Jesus Name) formula was (the) original,and the longer trine formula was a later development.
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Catholic Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger:He makes this (following) confession,as to the origin of the chief Trinity text of Matthew 28:19."The basic form of our (Matthew 28:19 Trinitarian) profession of faith,took shape during the course of the second and third centuries,in connection with the ceremony of baptism.So far as its place (location) of origin is concerned:the text (Matthew 28:19) came from the city of >> Rome.“The Trinity baptism and text of Matthew 28:19,therefore did not originate from the original Churchthat started in Jerusalem around AD 33.It was rather, as the evidence proves,a later invention of Roman Catholicism,>>> completely fabricated (lies) Very few know about these historical facts.
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Look after yourself. You can trust yourself.
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Time Magazine, Dec. 5, 1955: Record of a True Baptism in Rome 100 A.D.

"The deacon raised his hand,

and Publius Decius stepped through the baptistery door.
Standing waist-deep in the pool was Marcus Vasca the wood seller.
He was smiling as Publius waded into the pool beside him.
'Credis?' he asked.
Credo' responded Publius.
'I believe that my salvation comes from Jesus the Christ,
who was crucified under Pontius Pilate.
With Him I died that with Him I may have Eternal Life.'
Then he felt strong arms supporting him
as he let himself fall backward into the pool,
and heard Marcus' voice in his ear,
'I baptize you in the Name of the Lord Jesus'
as the cold water closed over (buried) him."
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The candidate MUST also PERSONALLY call on Jesus.
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The willing children of GOD,
can baptize more than once, like the spiritual Israelites do.
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Jesus, immediately, responds to the Baptism,
because it is the Word of GOD.

ALL were pleasantly surprised. :)
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CORRECT Baptism is VERY loaded and is confirmed from above.


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Mar 28, 2014
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We had to shorten:
The REST of the Post follows:
This is LIFE changer >>>
Jesus responds immediately.
Calling on the name of the LORD is customary.

Acts.22
[16] Now why do you tarry (Paul)?
Arise and be baptized and wash away your sins,
calling on the name of the LORD (Jesus Christ)

Pss.116
[13] I will take the Cup of Salvation (from Jesus)
and I will call upon the name of the LORD (Jesus, starting in baptism)

Pss.99
[6] Moses and Aaron, were among his Priests
and Samuel was among those (Judges) of Israel,
who call upon his name
They called upon the LORD (Jesus) and he answered them.
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The above Baptism conforms to the Scriptures.
The baptizer called upon/ over the BURIED candidate,
the 'name of the LORD Jesus, our Savior.'
Calling on the name of the LORD,
can be found throughout the ’Israelite Old and New Testament Scriptures.’
To call God by his name,
to get his attention and a response,
was always the sensible Israelite custom.
We Gentiles, join the Israelite GOD, his savior and his children,
and as dear children we follow his teachings.
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The candidate MUST also PERSONALLY call on Jesus,
for forgiveness and a good life,
while buried under the water.
Let the candidate decide the number of times to immerse.
He or she will feel comfortable…
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Calling on Jesus, by his Christians, as recorded,
in the Writings of our N.T. Scriptures.
Acts.2
[21] It shall come to pass,
that whosoever shall
>> (LITERALLY) call,
on the name of the LORD (Jesus in Baptism) shall be saved.

Acts.9
[14] Here Paul has authority from the Chief Priests to bind
all who (literally) call on your name.

Rom.10
[12] There is no difference between the Jew and the Greek,
for the same LORD (Jesus, the merciful God of Israel),
who is over every single person, in every single nation,
is rich to (enriches; 2 Cor.9:11; 1 Cor.1:5 below.),
everyone who >> calls upon him.
[13] because whoever,
calls on
the LORD (Yahweh/ Jesus,
starting in baptism like Peter said),
shall be saved (per Joel)

Christians baptized in (into/ calling on) Jesus,
who was the incarnated LORD and God of Israel.

[h=3]NOTE: The opinion of any believer who has not correctly baptized,[/h][h=3]is equivalent to the opinion of an un-baptized person,[/h][h=3]who belong to any other religion.[/h][h=3] [/h][h=3]The people of the 2[SUP]nd[/SUP] covenant[/h][h=3]are the predicted willing people of Christ and GOD.[/h][h=3]who go to Christ, our maker.[/h][h=3]Christ is, also, the previous God, of the unwilling Israelites.[/h]*
Acts.2
[38] Peter said to the other Israelites
Every one of you, (N0 EXception),
repent (turn) and be
baptized in (into/ calling on) the name of
Jesus Christ (the Savior of Israel),
for the remission of your sins
and then you shall receive, (from Jesus),
the Gift of the Spirit.
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Jesus gives the life giving and joy giving Spirit to those who will obey him.
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[h=3]Acts.8[/h][12] When they believed Philip,
who was preaching the things concerning
the (invisible) Kingdom of GOD,
and concerning the name (the FULL identity) of
Jesus Christ, both men and women were,
baptized (calling on the Mighty God)

[h=3]Acts.9[/h][18] and immediately there fell from his eyes, as it had been scales:
and he received sight forthwith
and he arose and he was baptized (calling on Jesus)

[h=3]Acts.10[/h][48] Peter commanded the Gentiles to be
>> baptized in (into/ calling on)
the name of the LORD (Jesus, the God of Israel)

[h=3]Acts.16[/h][15] When she and her household were baptized (in the name of Jesus),
she besought us (Apostles) saying..
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[33] He took the Apostles the same hour...
and he was baptized (in the name of Jesus) and all his family.

Hereunder is a lesson to the willing children of GOD,
that we can baptize more than once.
Especially if it was done wrongly the first time.
[h=3] [/h][h=3]Acts.19[/h][h=3][1]..finding certain disciples there [2] Paul asked them[/h][h=3]Have you gotten the Holy Ghost (from Jesus) since you believed?[/h][h=3]They said to him:[/h][h=3]We have not so much as heard whether there is any Holy Ghost.
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3] Paul asked them:
[/h][h=3]To (into) what (name) then were you baptized?[/h][h=3]They said: To (into) John’s baptism.
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[/h][5] When they (the willing) heard this, they were
>> baptized in (into/ calling on) the name
of the LORD Jesus, (like is customary)

[h=3]Rom.6[/h][3] Don’t you (converts) know, that so many of us (Christians)
as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
[h=3] [/h][h=3]1Cor.12[/h][13] by ONE Spirit (of GOD) we are all baptized into one Brotherhood
…and we all have been made to drink (like water) into ONE Spirit (of GOD)
[h=3] [/h][h=3]Gal.3[/h][27] As many of you as have been baptized into Christ,
have put on Christ (the beloved)
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Eph. 4
[5] ONE LORD (Jesus),
ONE Faith, (in BOTH, the Son and the Father)
>> ONE (acceptable) baptism, (calling on Jesus,
from under the water,
that is easily proven)

More research is available.
Grace is great, various and ongoing…
Everyone gets very happy and LOVES it.
Jesus still, accepts us if we PERSONALLY baptize ourselves,
calling on him for forgiveness and help.
That is the Israelite custom.

Pss.34
[8] O >> taste (through BAPTISM)
and see that the LORD (Jesus) is good.

ALL were pleasantly surprised. :)

Rediscover TRUE Christianity without paying any money.

Isa.52
[3] For thus saith the LORD (the Father)
You (Christians) have sold yourselves for naught
and you shall be redeemed
>> WITHOUT MONEY<< (only ENORMOUS thanks to GOD and Christ.)
Baptism is >> VERY loaded.
Be willing >> GO >>
 
Mar 25, 2014
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This is a must......
Jesus answered everyone who called him from under the water.
 
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MarkMulder

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Catholics deceived and hurt their own, in Baptism, for 1700 years.

The honorable Catholics gave out the information.
The others brutally fight back.
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Using the wrong Baptismal formula causes Spiritual Death and unhappiness.

The formula in itself doesn't do a thing, it's baptism not sourcery.

What DOES cause "spiritual death and unhappiness" is the catholics' conviction that infant baptism will save them, although in fact you have to be [re]born of water AND Spirit to be saved. [John 3:5-8]

I'm an ex-catholic, baptized with water as an infant, but that's of no value to me at all.
Once I've found the right church ripe I will CHOOSE to be baptized,
and then I really won't care what "formula" the pastor will use:

because It's the SPIRIT that matters, not water or mere words.
 

clarkthompson

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Baptism should come after coming to the faith and after confession, this is the only biblical requirement.
 
Mar 25, 2014
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An informed opinion will be meaningful...

We heard that negativity BUT we did it and Va Va VOOOOM!!!.

Just be sure to call while under the water..

It has worked for everyone...Heresy is going down...

Keep well,
 
Mar 25, 2014
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Jesus responded to all so far...
This the GRACE from GOD..
 
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I don't get how the Bible says this even with the provided verses.
 
Mar 25, 2014
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Gentiles just say GOD.
Israelites know his name, call him by name and he responds.

Jesus was their God BUT he had a GOD and a Father...
Just read and follow the Apostles and you will love it after baptism.
Call from under the water...or you get wet only.

GO >>> Grace is GREAT...
 
Mar 25, 2014
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This works for us...unlike what the mainliners say...

We have been there..

The best to you..
 
Mar 25, 2014
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No Christian LOVE.
Not even heathen kindmess.
People paid for this....

GOD is not dead like they think.
 
Mar 25, 2014
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This Baptism is the BREAK through into the BLESSINGS...

Jesus answers immediately if done correctly...

You will be eternally happy that you did it...

You can do it yourself like the Israelites....do