Blood is poured out for the forgiveness of sins?

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Friends, please forgive me if i have missed out on this. Please Scripture quote from the Old Testament, from Exodus and further in the New Testament, directly GOD's Word say, blood is the offering for sins.

Thank you, and may the Good GOD the FATHER of our LORD JESUS CHRIST bless you with HIS kindness and peace.
 
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Yes in deed...without the shedding of blood there is no remission of sins......
 
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Leviticus 16:5-28, 34 NASB​

"He shall take from the congregation of the sons of Israel two male goats for a sin offering and one ram for a burnt offering. Then Aaron shall offer the bull for the sin offering which is for himself, that he may make atonement for himself and for his household. He shall take the two goats and present them before the Lord at the doorway of the tent of meeting. Aaron shall cast lots for the two goats, one lot for the Lord and the other lot for the scapegoat.

"Then Aaron shall offer the goat on which the lot for the Lord fell, and make it a sin offering. But the goat on which the lot for the scapegoat fell shall be presented alive before the Lord, to make atonement upon it, to send it into the wilderness as the scapegoat.

"Then Aaron shall offer the bull of the sin offering which is for himself and make atonement for himself and for his household, and he shall slaughter the bull of the sin offering which is for himself. He shall take a firepan full of coals of fire from upon the altar before the Lord and two handfuls of finely ground sweet incense, and bring it inside the veil. He shall put the incense on the fire before the Lord, that the cloud of incense may cover the mercy seat that is on the ark of the testimony, otherwise he will die. Moreover, he shall take some of the blood of the bull and sprinkle it with his finger on the mercy seat on the east side; also in front of the mercy seat he shall sprinkle some of the blood with his finger seven times.

"Then he shall slaughter the goat of the sin offering which is for the people, and bring its blood inside the veil and do with its blood as he did with the blood of the bull, and sprinkle it on the mercy seat and in front of the mercy seat. He shall make atonement for the holy place, because of the impurities of the sons of Israel and because of their transgressions in regard to all their sins; and thus he shall do for the tent of meeting which abides with them in the midst of their impurities.

"When he goes in to make atonement in the holy place, no one shall be in the tent of meeting until he comes out, that he may make atonement for himself and for his household and for all the assembly of Israel. Then he shall go out to the altar that is before the Lord and make atonement for it, and shall take some of the blood of the bull and of the blood of the goat and put it on the horns of the altar on all sides.

"With his finger he shall sprinkle some of the blood on it seven times and cleanse it, and from the impurities of the sons of Israel consecrate it. "When he finishes atoning for the holy place and the tent of meeting and the altar, he shall offer the live goat. Then Aaron shall lay both of his hands on the head of the live goat, and confess over it all the iniquities of the sons of Israel and all their transgressions in regard to all their sins; and he shall lay them on the head of the goat and send it away into the wilderness by the hand of a man who stands in readiness. The goat shall bear on itself all their iniquities to a solitary land; and he shall release the goat in the wilderness.

"Then Aaron shall come into the tent of meeting and take off the linen garments which he put on when he went into the holy place, and shall leave them there. He shall bathe his body with water in a holy place and put on his clothes, and come forth and offer his burnt offering and the burnt offering of the people and make atonement for himself and for the people. Then he shall offer up in smoke the fat of the sin offering on the altar.

"The one who released the goat as the scapegoat shall wash his clothes and bathe his body with water; then afterward he shall come into the camp. But the bull of the sin offering and the goat of the sin offering, whose blood was brought in to make atonement in the holy place, shall be taken outside the camp, and they shall burn their hides, their flesh, and their refuse in the fire.

"Then the one who burns them shall wash his clothes and bathe his body with water, then afterward he shall come into the camp. Now you shall have this as a permanent statute, to make atonement for the sons of Israel for all their sins once every year." And just as the Lord had commanded Moses, so he did.

Hebrews 10:1-18 NASB​

For the Law, since it has only a shadow of the good things to come and not the very form of things, can never, by the same sacrifices which they offer continually year by year, make perfect those who draw near. Otherwise, would they not have ceased to be offered, because the worshipers, having once been cleansed, would no longer have had consciousness of sins? But in those sacrifices there is a reminder of sins year by year. For it is impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away sins.

Therefore, when He comes into the world, He says, "Sacrifice and offering You have not desired, but a body You have prepared for Me; In whole burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin You have taken no pleasure. "Then I said, 'Behold, I have come (In the scroll of the book it is written of Me) To do Your will, O God.'"

After saying above, "Sacrifices and offerings and whole burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin You have not desired, nor have You taken pleasure in them" (which are offered according to the Law), then He said, "Behold, I have come to do Your will." He takes away the first in order to establish the second. By this will we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

Every priest stands daily ministering and offering time after time the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins; but He, having offered one sacrifice for sins for all time, sat down at the right hand of God, waiting from that time onward until His enemies be made a footstool for His feet.

For by one offering He has perfected for all time those who are sanctified. And the Holy Spirit also testifies to us; for after saying, "This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, says the Lord: I will put My laws upon their heart, and on their mind I will write them," He then says, "And their sins and their lawless deeds I will remember no more." Now where there is forgiveness of these things, there is no longer any offering for sin.

Isaiah 53:1-12 NASB​


Who has believed our message? And to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed? For He grew up before Him like a tender shoot, and like a root out of parched ground; He has no stately form or majesty that we should look upon Him, nor appearance that we should be attracted to Him.

He was despised and forsaken of men, a man of sorrows and acquainted with grief; and like one from whom men hide their face He was despised, and we did not esteem Him. Surely our griefs He Himself bore, And our sorrows He carried; Yet we ourselves esteemed Him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.

But He was pierced through for our transgressions, He was crushed for our iniquities; The chastening for our well-being fell upon Him, And by His scourging we are healed. All of us like sheep have gone astray, Each of us has turned to his own way; But the Lord has caused the iniquity of us all to fall on Him. He was oppressed and He was afflicted, yet He did not open His mouth; lole a lamb that is led to slaughter, and like a sheep that is silent before its shearers, so He did not open His mouth.

By oppression and judgment He was taken away; and as for His generation, who considered that He was cut off out of the land of the living for the transgression of my people, to whom the stroke was due? His grave was assigned with wicked men, yet He was with a rich man in His death, because He had done no violence, nor was there any deceit in His mouth. But the Lord was pleased to crush Him, putting Him to grief; If He would render Himself as a guilt offering, He will see His offspring, He will prolong His days, and the good pleasure of the Lord will prosper in His hand.

As a result of the anguish of His soul, He will see it and be satisfied; By His knowledge the Righteous One, My Servant, will justify the many, as He will bear their iniquities. Therefore, I will allot Him a portion with the great, and He will divide the booty with the strong; because He poured out Himself to death, and was numbered with the transgressors; yet He Himself bore the sin of many, and interceded for the transgressors.

Hebrews 9:6-22 NASB​


Now when these things have been so prepared, the priests are continually entering the outer tabernacle performing the divine worship, but into the second, only the high priest enters once a year, not without taking blood, which he offers for himself and for the sins of the people committed in ignorance.

The Holy Spirit is signifying this, that the way into the holy place has not yet been disclosed while the outer tabernacle is still standing, which is a symbol for the present time. Accordingly both gifts and sacrifices are offered which cannot make the worshiper perfect in conscience, since they relate only to food and drink and various washings, regulations for the body imposed until a time of reformation.

But when Christ appeared as a high priest of the good things to come, He entered through the greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this creation; and not through the blood of goats and calves, but through His own blood, He entered the holy place once for all, having obtained eternal redemption.

For if the blood of goats and bulls and the ashes of a heifer sprinkling those who have been defiled sanctify for the cleansing of the flesh, how much more will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered Himself without blemish to God, cleanse your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?

For this reason He is the mediator of a new covenant, so that, since a death has taken place for the redemption of the transgressions that were committed under the first covenant, those who have been called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance. For where a covenant is, there must of necessity be the death of the one who made it.

For a covenant is valid only when men are dead, for it is never in force while the one who made it lives. Therefore even the first covenant was not inaugurated without blood. For when every commandment had been spoken by Moses to all the people according to the Law, he took the blood of the calves and the goats, with water and scarlet wool and hyssop, and sprinkled both the book itself and all the people, saying, "This is the blood of the covenant which God commanded you."

And in the same way he sprinkled both the tabernacle and all the vessels of the ministry with the blood. And according to the Law, one may almost say, all things are cleansed with blood, and without shedding of blood there is no forgiveness.
 
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Thank you for your respect dearly beloved dcontroversal, for you have not read my tread and answer accordingly but i honor you as dearly beloved of CHRIST and CHRIST do not want you to say anymore because there is to come series of contention.

Let us wait together for more Scriptural gifted answers in the Holy Bible Scripture quotation of GOD's every Word for justification.
 
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Isaiah 53:7 NASB

He was oppressed and He was afflicted, Yet He did not open His mouth; Like a lamb that is led to slaughter, And like a sheep that is silent before its shearers, So He did not open His mouth.​

Correction on that verse, it said lole instead of like.
 

p_rehbein

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The Precious Blood of Jesus

Leviticus 17:11, 14 (cp. Deuteronomy 12:23) “For the life of the flesh
is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an
atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement
for the soul…. For it is the life of all flesh; the blood of it is for the life
thereof …”


Hebrews 9:22 “Without the shedding of blood, there is

no remission of sins.”


1 John 1:7″… the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth

us from all sin.”


Exodus 12:13 “… and when I see the blood, I will pass over

you, and the plague shall not be upon you to destroy you,
when I smite the land of Egypt.”


Revelation 12:11 “And they overcame him (Satan) by the blood

of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony …”


Hebrews 9:14 “How much more shall the blood of Christ, who

through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God,
purge your conscience …


Hebrews 10:19, 22 “Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter

into the holiest by the blood of Jesus … Let us draw near with a true
heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an
evil conscience …”


Hebrews 13:12 “Wherefore Jesus also, that he might sanctify

the people with his own blood, suffered without the gate.”


Romans 3:24-25 “Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;”


Romans 5:9 “Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.”

 
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Has all of the model prayer, commonly called the Lord's Prayer been done away with?

Matt 6:12, "and forgive us our debts as we have also forgiven our debtors."

Luke 11:4, "and forgive us our sins, as we ourselves forgive everyone who is indebted to us."

Jesus didn't mention any blood was needed to have sins forgiven. He forgave sins while on earth, and didn't require an animal be killed. Neither did he cut his arm or leg to shed blood first.
 
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remember that = death and shedding of blood are used synonymously in scripture - some people at times think like the Blood of Jesus represents itself - even as far as going to say there is a special pool of Jesus' blood in heaven for our sins

Even whole ministries are based on this = and based on attacking John MacArthur, just as an example.
 

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Friends, please forgive me if i have missed out on this.
Please Scripture quote from the Old Testament, from Exodus and further in the New Testament, directly GOD's Word say,
blood is the offering for sins.

Thank you, and may the Good GOD the FATHER of our LORD JESUS CHRIST bless you with HIS kindness and peace.
Atonement was for the forgiveness of sin, by paying the penalty for sin, which is death.

The life (in the blood) of the animal was substituted for the life of the sinner in payment of the penalty.

The blood was given "to make atonement for yourselves on the altar; it is the blood that makes
atonement for one's life" (Lev 17:11), which was the penalty required for forgiveness of sin.
 
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posthuman

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Then one of the elders addressed me, saying,
“Who are these, clothed in white robes, and from where have they come?”​
I said to him,
“Sir, you know.”​
And he said to me,
“These are the ones coming out of the great tribulation. They have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb."

(Revelation 7:13-14)
 

posthuman

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Jesus didn't mention any blood was needed to have sins forgiven. He forgave sins while on earth, and didn't require an animal be killed. Neither did he cut his arm or leg to shed blood first.
did you miss the bit about Him being crucified, friend?
how He is called "the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world" ?
(Revelation 13:8)
 
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Matthew 26;28:

"for this is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins."
 
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did you miss the bit about Him being crucified, friend?
how He is called "the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world" ?
(Revelation 13:8)
Jesus didn't write Rev. Do you dispute what Jesus spoke when he gave the Lord's Prayer to his disciples?
 
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Matthew 26;28:

"for this is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins."
Read John 6:63, "It is the Spirit who gives life, the flesh is no help at all."

Some believe that Mat and Mark and Luke has a couple verses inserted in there at the Last Supper.

Jesus is against sacrifices. "Go and learn what this means, I desire mercy and NOT sacrifice." Matt 9:13, 12:7
 
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Thank you and by the Help of the Teacher the HOLY SPIRIT, i have read John 6;63, dearly beloved Brethren and truthfully they are as follows;
1. You have not completed verse 63, CHRIST also continue to say, "The words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life." ("It is the SPIRIT who gives life", and this SPIRIT is in JESUS and as JESUS spoke the SPIRIT of the FATHER spoke.and the words were spirit and life to those who listen and pay attention and believed)
2. ".............................., the flesh is no help at all." (the word 'flesh' mentioned here is not referring to the human body but meaning the human carnality and it's passions.)
3. JESUS human body was not corrupted nor contaminated to carnality and it's passions nor ever gave in to them when tempted, for HE knew not sin, even though the number of carnality lifestyles were overwhelming witnessed in HIS daily life here on earth. So HIS body was without blemish, ready for sin sacrifice, to redeem many and HE was the prophesied, " 'The passover lamb of GOD' that 'takes away the sins of this world' ".
4. 'JESUS is against sacrifice'. Yes, only to sacrifices that are centered and based on, example, 'hypocrisy religiousness' and 'contentment in following the doctrine of men and traditions.
5. And yet finally HE Himself became an offering, as a blameless living sacrifice for the sins of the world.
 
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Has all of the model prayer, commonly called the Lord's Prayer been done away with?

Matt 6:12, "and forgive us our debts as we have also forgiven our debtors."

Luke 11:4, "and forgive us our sins, as we ourselves forgive everyone who is indebted to us."



Jesus didn't mention any blood was needed to have sins forgiven. He forgave sins while on earth, and didn't require an animal be killed. Neither did he cut his arm or leg to shed blood first.
He also told Martha " I am the Resurrection" when He raised Lazarus. Yet there had been no resurrection. He forgave sins because He is God and can do whatever He wants to. Also because He knew He was going to the cross and forgiveness or atonement would be made available for every one who believed.

John 14
6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.