Bible readers: Could you please explain ACTS 15

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Mar 23, 2014
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Paul and Christian Pharisees had a bid argument about teaching Moses Law to Gentiles.
Could you please help to explain What ACTS 15 could teach us about:
Early Christian Life.
Jews
Gentiles.
Christian Pharisees.
Moses Law and Circumcision.
 

Angela53510

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That there were Judiasers in the early church, and this faction was calling for circumcision, and they were required new Gentile believers to be circumcised and follow the Old Covenant Mosaic laws. And these people who wanted to change the gospel were called PHARISEES.

"But some believers who belonged to the party of the Pharisees rose up and said, “It is necessary to circumcise them and to order them to keep the law of Moses.” Acts 15:5.

So, they had a great debate about it, in which only the apostles and elders were allowed talk.

They made a big decision about following the Mosaic Law, or the Old Covenant, which includes the important fact, that no one can keep the Mosaic law, and salvation comes through Jesus Christ.

"And after there had been much debate, Peter stood up and said to them, “Brothers, you know that in the early days God made a choice among you, that by my mouth the Gentiles should hear the word of the gospel and believe. [SUP]8 [/SUP]And God, who knows the heart, bore witness to them, by giving them the Holy Spirit just as he did to us, [SUP]9 [/SUP]and he made no distinction between us and them, having cleansed their hearts by faith. [SUP]10 [/SUP]Now, therefore, why are you putting God to the test by placing a yoke on the neck of the disciples that neither our fathers nor we have been able to bear?[SUP]11 [/SUP]But we believe that we will be saved through the grace of the Lord Jesus, just as they will.” Acts 15:7-11

So the law was a yoke which the Hebrews themselves could not keep, and it was putting God to the test.

The decision was that 4 things needed to be abided by:

"Therefore my judgment is that we should not trouble those of the Gentiles who turn to God, [SUP]20 [/SUP]but should write to them to abstain from the things polluted by idols, and from sexual immorality, and from what has been strangled, and from blood."
Acts 15:19-20.


Please note that probably only one is relevant to today. These were cultural norms, established to be a better witness to the world, and to prevent them from not really understanding that just because the pagan cultures were doing the 4 things, they should know it was better for the Gentile converts not to do this.

Again, the 4 things are:
1. abstain from the things polluted by idols,
2. abstain from sexual immorality
3. abstain from what has been strangled
4. abstain from blood.

All these things were done in pagan temple worship, including ritual cultic prostitution by both men and women.

The formal letter to the Gentile believers ends with:

"If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well. Farewell.” Acts 15:29

So basically, they instructed the new believers to NOT believe the Pharisees, and totally keep away from some pagan temple practices. And abstaining from blood is probably a health issue, besides being forbidden in ceremonial purity laws in Leviticus. And they were specifically told they did not have to obey the Torah and the Old Covenant laws, instructions and rituals.

Notice there was nothing about keeping a Saturday Sabbath, celebrating feast days, or keeping the law to keep their salvation.

The book of Galatians also deals with this matter, a very good read that ties directly into this chapter. I just am reading Acts, and was going to post on this subject, that even the Jerusalem Council did not require an adherence to the Mosaic or Old Covenant laws or instructions.

Really, If this is not a warning to Judasiers and the Hebrews Roots movement, I don't know what is.

As for Paul and Barnabas, that was a sad disagreement. Barnabas was the only one who supported Paul when he went to Jerusalem, and believed he had been saved. His ministry was encouragement, but after this "sharp disagreement" Paul took Silas on his missionary journey, and Barnabas took John Mark. We never hear about Barnabas again in the Bible.
 

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That there were Judiasers in the early church, and this faction was calling for circumcision, and they were required new Gentile believers to be circumcised and follow the Old Covenant Mosaic laws. And these people who wanted to change the gospel were called PHARISEES.

"But some believers who belonged to the party of the Pharisees rose up and said, “It is necessary to circumcise them and to order them to keep the law of Moses.” Acts 15:5.

So, they had a great debate about it, in which only the apostles and elders were allowed talk.

They made a big decision about following the Mosaic Law, or the Old Covenant, which includes the important fact, that no one can keep the Mosaic law, and salvation comes through Jesus Christ.

"And after there had been much debate, Peter stood up and said to them, “Brothers, you know that in the early days God made a choice among you, that by my mouth the Gentiles should hear the word of the gospel and believe. [SUP]8 [/SUP]And God, who knows the heart, bore witness to them, by giving them the Holy Spirit just as he did to us, [SUP]9 [/SUP]and he made no distinction between us and them, having cleansed their hearts by faith. [SUP]10 [/SUP]Now, therefore, why are you putting God to the test by placing a yoke on the neck of the disciples that neither our fathers nor we have been able to bear?[SUP]11 [/SUP]But we believe that we will be saved through the grace of the Lord Jesus, just as they will.” Acts 15:7-11

So the law was a yoke which the Hebrews themselves could not keep, and it was putting God to the test.

The decision was that 4 things needed to be abided by:

"Therefore my judgment is that we should not trouble those of the Gentiles who turn to God, [SUP]20 [/SUP]but should write to them to abstain from the things polluted by idols, and from sexual immorality, and from what has been strangled, and from blood."
Acts 15:19-20.


Please note that probably only one is relevant to today. These were cultural norms, established to be a better witness to the world, and to prevent them from not really understanding that just because the pagan cultures were doing the 4 things, they should know it was better for the Gentile converts not to do this.

Again, the 4 things are:
1. abstain from the things polluted by idols,
2. abstain from sexual immorality
3. abstain from what has been strangled
4. abstain from blood.

All these things were done in pagan temple worship, including ritual cultic prostitution by both men and women.

The formal letter to the Gentile believers ends with:

"If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well. Farewell.” Acts 15:29

So basically, they instructed the new believers to NOT believe the Pharisees, and totally keep away from some pagan temple practices. And abstaining from blood is probably a health issue, besides being forbidden in ceremonial purity laws in Leviticus. And they were specifically told they did not have to obey the Torah and the Old Covenant laws, instructions and rituals.

Notice there was nothing about keeping a Saturday Sabbath, celebrating feast days, or keeping the law to keep their salvation.

The book of Galatians also deals with this matter, a very good read that ties directly into this chapter. I just am reading Acts, and was going to post on this subject, that even the Jerusalem Council did not require an adherence to the Mosaic or Old Covenant laws or instructions.

Really, If this is not a warning to Judasiers and the Hebrews Roots movement, I don't know what is.

As for Paul and Barnabas, that was a sad disagreement. Barnabas was the only one who supported Paul when he went to Jerusalem, and believed he had been saved. His ministry was encouragement, but after this "sharp disagreement" Paul took Silas on his missionary journey, and Barnabas took John Mark. We never hear about Barnabas again in the Bible.
Good comment, but I avoid eating blood (raw meat), being involved with idols, and sexual immorality. I don't know if anything that I eat has been strangled.
 

Angela53510

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Good comment, but I avoid eating blood (raw meat), being involved with idols, and sexual immorality. I don't know if anything that I eat has been strangled.
I think that is your personal decision. It was directed to a certain community at a certain time. I don't eat meat, (health reasons) so I avoid that whole problems. As far as sexual immorality, I've been married to the same man for 33 years coming up, so not an issue either.

The point is, these are the ONLY things the apostles and elders of the church told the Gentile believers to do, contrary to what the Pharisees were doing - pushing their version of Judaism on the new Gentile believers.
 
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With my family we visited Pentecostal churches for few months, and after a small gap, a local Baptist church, I noticed they were asking for tithing very enthusiastically, When I requested an interview with the respective pastor to speak about ACTS 15, they will not touch the subject but just find a work around, one said is was just circumcision, the other completely ignored it. I told them that no were in the NT I found any shadow of instruction for the Gentiles to pay tithing but to donate. They became quiet upset so I stop going to those churches, this days I Just read the Bible at home and pray with the family.
We kind of loosing the hope to ever find a church like the one Jesus founded.
I also have made an interesting inference from the romans,Galats,Acts 15,21 books:
There were not one unique type of christian. they were two.
The jew/christian.
The Gentile/christian.
One was circumcised, and keep on the tradition of their parents. eventually got extint for the prosecution or for stop the practice of circumcision to their children.
The Gentiles is the branch of the church that ended flourishing and this is what we see in our days.

Books like romans were written to jew christians.
Books like Galats were written to Gentiles.

The teachings seem some times contradictory, .... but is because is for different audiences, living Christianity in different ways.