Rebuilding the ruins

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Hashe

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I recently saw the movie monument men. It was about saving important cultural icons so that after the war culture could be saved or rebuilt. The theory being that when Hitler knew he had lost he wanted to destroy culture.

In the movie some show an initial distrust of the motives of these men. The men need a show of power to take back these cultural icons. However when allies start ‘liberating’ the icons and giving them back to the original owners, where possible, there is a great thankfulness for what these monument men are doing. The truly liberated people don’t need to see the force, they serve willingly.

The story of Babel is about God creating many cultures from one people. The reason God created these cultures is because of sin. The people wanted to work together against God’s plan for them to fill the world. Sin is a part of all cultures. However the flip side is that culture was a tool God used to get people to do his will. Therefore there is good in all cultures.

When we move from the kingdom of this world, to the kingdom of God, a battle is won. However we bring our culture. Some of it is good and can be celebrated. Some of it needs redeeming. We need to rebuild a redeemed culture in the ruins of sin.

People rebuilding within the kingdom of God shouldn’t need more and more demonstrations of God’s power. We know God is real. We know that the future fullness of the kingdom is good.

It makes me wonder if I am willing to serve despite living in a world that is affected by sin. Am I expecting the ruins to be magically restored? Do I need the ruins completely restored in order to continue serving?
 
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followjja

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The story of Babel, was about creating different "LANGUAGES" not cultures.
 
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Tintin

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followjja said:
The story of Babel, was about creating different "LANGUAGES" not cultures.
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True, but different cultures began to arise from the languages assigned to each 'family' group eg. the Babylonians, the Egyptians, the Greeks.
 
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Vernon

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With modern technology and English as the universal language of business and commerce, I see a parallel between today and the time of the Tower of Babel.
Space exploration today is our Tower of Babel, trying to reach up to God with our physical ability not realizing or accepting that God has reached us with his spiritual ability.
I believe God divided humanity by language to dumb us down so that we would not believe we could become gods by our own abilities and would then recognize the one and only true God. Today with the advancement of technology many believe we can become our own gods once again. President Nixon said in a speech in 1969, that it was the greatest day since the day of creation (mankind walking on the moon).

Satan is no dummy and he realizes human potential is greater than his own, because humans are created in the image of God. And if humanity would become one in their spiritual nature they could destroy all his works. That is why satan has divided the church keeping it weak and of little effect spiritually. Can you image the world with a united church all one with Christ? well satan can imagine it and that is why he works to keep the church divided and weak.

Just a thought.
 
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Tintin

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God confused the languages of the people, not to dumb them down, so much as to humble mankind. Otherwise, a very good post. :)
 
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Vernon

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true about the dumb down part, was thinking of myself and how God had to humble me and make me realize I was dumber than a stump in comparison to him.
 
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The message of the cross is our motive and it trandscends all culture except the Fall and Calvary.
 
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Hashe

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crossnote said:
The message of the cross is our motive and it trandscends all culture except the Fall and Calvary.
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I honestly don't know what this means.
What culture is the fall? What culture is Calvary? Is it Jewish? Roman?
What does the cross as our motive have to do with the OP? Do you see that in any way against the OP?
 
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