Do you condone the celebration of Christmas and Easter?

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Do you condone the celebration of Christmas and Easter?

  • Yes.

    Votes: 12 75.0%
  • No.

    Votes: 3 18.8%
  • Confused/Undecided.

    Votes: 1 6.3%

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oopsies

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Hello,

I need some verses, point-of-views, and poll results for a possible biblical discussion topic. It's similar to the Halloween threads. Do you condone the celebration of Christmas or Easter?

Oh, before you answer, please keep part of your answer in the following framework. The goal is this: to encourage young adults who have fallen away to return through love, obedience, and example-setting. Like all churches, ours have "history" but for us, the history targeted the then-youth who are now grown up. We are trying to bring them back with solid theology and scriptural reading - and it's hard enough to get them to come to a "Bible Study." No bashing over the head with Bibles. Our church has tried that and all it did was push them away further and faster than bunnies can breed.

The idea is to follow a 3-step process: remember, repent, and return. So the topics generally move in that direction. The first few cover "remembrance." The next ones are "repentance" and "return."

We've covered the following topics:

Week 1: The need and importance of scriptural study and how it equips and prepares us to do what God calls us to do.

Week 2: The importance of putting time aside just for God no matter what life is currently throwing at you.

Week 3: The seven letters to the seven churches in Asia found in Revelation with emphasis that we are in the age of the seventh church (the lukewarm church - the church that compromises between hot and cold).

Week 4 & 5 (will be this week and the following week) - No topic set yet.

Week 6 & 7 (Christmas and baptism week) - Possible topics:
- The real Christianity that the media doesn't tell you.
- Did you know that more Christians have died and continue to die from persecution than anything we've done in the past? Find out on Tuesday.
- The easiest salvation that no other religion can offer - no good works pre-requisite!

Possible topics:
- Uprooting your comforts: Christmas, Easter, and Halloween.
- Simply Christian 10-week course (I haven't previewed it yet).
- How to increase/grow your faith.
- What does the Bible say about self-esteem?
- Gifts of the Holy Spirit.
- Cooking with salt. (Salt of the church)
- Non-believers, you won't go to Hell at the Second Coming - only a BBQ at the Lake of Fire.

Thanks, will appreciate the help!
 
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greatkraw

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It is really good to celebrate that Christ was born.

It is really good to celebrate that Christ died.

It is really good to celebrate that Christ rose again.
 
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suaso

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I love Christmas and Easter. One celebrates the Incarnation, which sanctified our nature and reunited it to God. The other celebrates our redemption through Christ's obedience to the Father by his willing to die for our sins on the cross and the victory over sin and death through the resurrection.
 
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The churches I have always gone to have “celebrated” Christmas and Easter. That is, we have Christmas Eve services and the topic on Easter Sunday is always about Jesus arising from the dead.

I have never heard anybody question Easter, until now.

As for celebrating Christmas, I have no problem with it as long as we are truly celebrating the birth of Jesus.
 
Apr 23, 2009
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It is really good to celebrate that Christ was born.

It is really good to celebrate that Christ died.

It is really good to celebrate that Christ rose again.
I totally agree, but should we celebrate it the way the pagans do?
 
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happynGod

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It is really good to celebrate that Christ was born.

It is really good to celebrate that Christ died.

It is really good to celebrate that Christ rose again.
One the first day of the week I celebrate all of the above.

Acts 20:7 And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples come together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.

1 Corinthians 10:16 The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not the communion of the blood of Christ? The bread which we break, is it not the communion of the body of Christ?
 
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giantone

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The Jesus at Christmas is a baby in a manger, The Jesus we have is not a baby And the Jesus that will come back to Earth will not come back in peace or gentleness.

The true Jesus Christians worship is not hanging on a cross or dead in a cave.

Both holidays have there roots in paganism and they tack a Christian name on it and it makes it Christian. I celebrate them because it is the right thing to do for my family and some things are all right to partake in as long as we are in the world and not of it.
 
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The Jesus at Christmas is a baby in a manger, The Jesus we have is not a baby And the Jesus that will come back to Earth will not come back in peace or gentleness.

The true Jesus Christians worship is not hanging on a cross or dead in a cave.

He's not a baby in the manger anymore.
He's not a broken man on the cross.
He didn't stay in the grave.
And He is not staying in Heaven for ever.


PEOPLE GET READY JESUS IS COMING!!!!!!!!!!
 
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shad

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Yes, Christ is risen, He has ascended and is sitting at the right hand of God. He came to earth at the right time, was born in the right place and through the right woman, Mary, a virgin who was chosen among women. In doing it this way He fulfilled the prophesy of the scripture of His coming. We should all thank God that he came. If He was not born as a babe and came any other way, He would not have been tempted in all points as we are, He would not have had like passions and He would not have come and been made in the likeness of sinful flesh either.

If he had come any other way His sacrifice would not have been accepted as a perfect and spotless sacrifice for sin. His blood, which was the life of His flesh, had to go through all that it did for (33) years and be subject to all that the flesh is subject to in His humanity so that he could be touched with the feelings of our infirmities. He needed His humanity to be able to suffer in the flesh in the garden as all the way to the cross. Without His humanity the chastisement of our peace would not be upon Him, He would not been able to take our sins upon His body and He would have never been able to shed His blood and taste death for every man.

I believe that His birth is very significant to our redemption, our salvation, our justification, our sanctification and finally our glorification when we put on immortality. Without His birth none of this would have been possible because it would not have been available to man. Sure, we are to know no man after the flesh, not even Christ, but though we knew Him after the flesh we know Him no more.

1Tim 3:16 'And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory'.
 
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tryingtofindhim

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I celebrate both, but I don't like Easter being called Easter. Easter was a greek god and that was a pagan holiday.
 
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suaso

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Apparently we call it Easter because the holiday tended to normally fall around April, and the name for the month of April in Anglo-Saxon (who became the English) cultures was named after the goddess Eostre or something, so Easter got its name from the month it typically occurred in, and that month was named after a pagan goddess that not many people even worshipped anymore.

I wish we English-speakers would call it by any of the derivitives of Pascha like the speakers of almost every other language out there do, but oh well.
 
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Apparently we call it Easter because the holiday tended to normally fall around April, and the name for the month of April in Anglo-Saxon (who became the English) cultures was named after the goddess Eostre or something, so Easter got its name from the month it typically occurred in, and that month was named after a pagan goddess that not many people even worshipped anymore.

I wish we English-speakers would call it by any of the derivitives of Pascha like the speakers of almost every other language out there do, but oh well.
suaso... I applaud you for the many things you know! :cool:
 
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I came to the Lord at a Christmas play at Christian Life assembly in Langly BC November 1991. If they choose to not celebrate with a beautiful play about the birth of christ (complete with an angel who came down from the rafters) Would I have received Jesus as Lord? maybe. Am I certain? Nope. This is the time to speak to the hearts of the unbeliever to get them into the churches for wonderful Holy Spirit moving services that they may know the Grace of God and redemption that is Jesus Christ!!! wahoo, I'm so thankful Christian Life assembly choose to celebrate the birth of Christ and that I was invited to that play. The most important day of my life thus far.
 
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suaso

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Thank you imoss. If you live to see a future in which I have a holiday, make sure it isn't named after a month with pagan origins.

Like January, named after the god Janus.
 
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miktre

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Ya but don't you think that the celebration of the resurrection should not be named after a pagan sex holiday? Easter gets its name from Ester the pagan goddess of fertility(sex goddess) So we celebrate the resurrection with sex holiday traditions, what must the Lord think of this? So we decorate eggs which represent fertility and hide them like the pagans. At least we dont do what the pagans did when they found them. A man and woman unmarried would got out to find the hidden eggs and when they did they would have a romp out in the bushes. Then theres that cute easter bunny. Theres a reason it was chosen, ever hear of the sayin "doin it like rabbits"? Rabbits are well known for their sexual appetite and multiplying rapidly.

As for me and my house, we won't celebrate of resurrection of Christ by calling it the sex holiday easter
 
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greatkraw

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Thank you imoss. If you live to see a future in which I have a holiday, make sure it isn't named after a month with pagan origins.

Like January, named after the god Janus.
The jewish calendar includes the month Tammuz - an early pagan deity.
 
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freeman4

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The most common justification that one will hear regarding Christmas is that people have replaced old pagan customs and intents by asserting that they are now “focusing on Christ.” They say that they are “honoring Christ” in their Christmas-keeping. The problem is that God does not say this is acceptable to Him! Actually, He plainly commands against it! Keeping Christmas dishonors Christ! He considers everything about it to be an abomination! We will soon see why.
Christ said, “But in vain they do worship Me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men” (Matt. 15:9). Christmas is not a command of God—it is a tradition of men. Christ continued, “Full well you reject the commandment of God, that you may keep your own tradition (Mark 7:9). Every year, throughout the world, on December 25th, hundreds of millions do just that!
We will see that God plainly commands, “Follow not the way of the heathen.” (Jer. Ch 10). But most people do not fear God, and He allows them to make their own decisions. Human beings are free moral agents—free to obey or disobey God! But woe to those who ignore the plain Word of God!
Was Christ Born on December 25th?

Christ was born in the fall of the year. Many have mistakenly believed He was born around the beginning of winter—December 25th! They are wrong! Notice the Adam Clarke Commentary, volume 5, page 370, New York edition: “It was custom among Jews to send out their sheep to the deserts about the Passover early spring, and bring them home at the commencement of the first rain.” The first rains began in early-to-mid fall. “During the time they were out, the shepherds watched them night and day. As…the first rain began early in the month of March-esvan, which answers to part of our October and November, we find that the sheep were kept out in the open country during the whole summer. And as these shepherds had not yet brought home their flocks, it is a presumptive argument that October had not yet commenced, and that, consequently, our Lord was not born on the 25th of December, when no flocks were out in the fields; nor could He have been born later than September, as the flocks were still in the fields by night. On this very ground, the nativity in December should be given up. The feeding of the flocks by night in the fields is a chronological fact.
Luke 2:8 explains that when Christ was born, “there were in the same country shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night.” Note that they were “abiding” in the field. This never happened in December. Both Ezra 10:9-13 and the Song of Solomon 2:11 show that winter was the rainy season and shepherds could not stay on cold, open fields at night.
Numerous encyclopedias plainly state that Christ was not born on December 25th! The Catholic Encyclopedia directly confirms this. In all likelihood, Christ was born in the fall! A lengthy technical explanation would prove this point.
 
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