The "blood moon"

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oldhermit

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If anyone has read John Hagee's book entitled
"Four Blood Moons: Something is About to Change"

What was your opinion of Hagee and this particular work?
 

KohenMatt

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What are your thoughts?
I saw it early this morning, although it was more of a faded pink color. I didn't stick around to watch it more though. It was very cold, and I was very tired.

I don't know what it necessarily means. I've always been a natural skeptic when it comes to prophecies and signs, but it will be interesting to see what plays out over the next year or so.
 

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I saw it early this morning, although it was more of a faded pink color. I didn't stick around to watch it more though. It was very cold, and I was very tired.

I don't know what it necessarily means. I've always been a natural skeptic when it comes to prophecies and signs, but it will be interesting to see what plays out over the next year or so.
I did not stay up to see much of the eclipse. I think the first "blood moon" is supposed to occur tonight is it not? I was just curious to see what prophesy enthusiasts would have to say about these events.
 
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If anyone has read John Hagee's book entitled
"Four Blood Moons: Something is About to Change"

What was your opinion of Hagee and this particular work?
typically ignorant and politically motivated.


Hagee, who sees the tetrad as particularly meaningful for Israel, says previous tetrads, in 1492, 1948 and 1967, coincided with such events as the expulsion of Jews from Spain at the end of the Inquisition, statehood for Israel, and the Six-Day War.
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[h=2]Lunar Eclipse Tetrads[/h]The lunar eclipses of 2014 are the first of four consecutive total lunar eclipses - a series known as a tetrad. During the 5000-year period from -1999 to +3000, there are 4378 penumbral eclipses (36.3%), 4207 partial lunar eclipses (34.9%) and 3479 total lunar eclipses (28.8%). Approximately 16.3% (568) of all total eclipses belong to one of the 142 tetrads occurring over this period (Espenak and Meeus, 2009). The mechanism causing tetrads involves the eccentricity of Earth's orbit in conjunction with the timing of eclipse seasons (Meeus, 2004). During the present millennium, the first eclipse of every tetrad occurs sometime from February to July. In later millennia, the first eclipse date gradually falls later in the year because of precession.


Italian astronomer Giovanni Schiaparelli first pointed out that the frequency of tetrads is variable over time. He noticed that tetrads were relatively plentiful during one 300-year interval, while none occurred during the next 300 years. For example, there are no tetrads from 1582 to 1908, but 17 tetrads occur during the following 2 and 1/2 centuries from 1909 to 2156. The ~565-year period of the tetrad "seasons" is tied to the slowly decreasing eccentricity of Earth's orbit. Consequently, the tetrad period is gradually decreasing (Meeus, 2004). In the distant future when Earth's eccentricity is 0, tetrads will no longer be possible.


The umbral magnitudes of the total eclipses making up a tetrad are all relatively small. For the 300-year period 1901 to 2200, the largest umbral magnitude of a tetrad eclipse is 1.4251 on 1949 Apr 13. For comparison, some other total eclipses during this period are much deeper. Two examples are the total eclipses of 2000 Jul 16 and 2029 Jun 26 with umbral magnitudes of 1.7684 and 1.8436, respectively.
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1949?
john hagee is teaching omens. for profit.
 

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typically ignorant and politically motivated.


Hagee, who sees the tetrad as particularly meaningful for Israel, says previous tetrads, in 1492, 1948 and 1967, coincided with such events as the expulsion of Jews from Spain at the end of the Inquisition, statehood for Israel, and the Six-Day War.
usatoday

Lunar Eclipse Tetrads

The lunar eclipses of 2014 are the first of four consecutive total lunar eclipses - a series known as a tetrad. During the 5000-year period from -1999 to +3000, there are 4378 penumbral eclipses (36.3%), 4207 partial lunar eclipses (34.9%) and 3479 total lunar eclipses (28.8%). Approximately 16.3% (568) of all total eclipses belong to one of the 142 tetrads occurring over this period (Espenak and Meeus, 2009). The mechanism causing tetrads involves the eccentricity of Earth's orbit in conjunction with the timing of eclipse seasons (Meeus, 2004). During the present millennium, the first eclipse of every tetrad occurs sometime from February to July. In later millennia, the first eclipse date gradually falls later in the year because of precession.


Italian astronomer Giovanni Schiaparelli first pointed out that the frequency of tetrads is variable over time. He noticed that tetrads were relatively plentiful during one 300-year interval, while none occurred during the next 300 years. For example, there are no tetrads from 1582 to 1908, but 17 tetrads occur during the following 2 and 1/2 centuries from 1909 to 2156. The ~565-year period of the tetrad "seasons" is tied to the slowly decreasing eccentricity of Earth's orbit. Consequently, the tetrad period is gradually decreasing (Meeus, 2004). In the distant future when Earth's eccentricity is 0, tetrads will no longer be possible.


The umbral magnitudes of the total eclipses making up a tetrad are all relatively small. For the 300-year period 1901 to 2200, the largest umbral magnitude of a tetrad eclipse is 1.4251 on 1949 Apr 13. For comparison, some other total eclipses during this period are much deeper. Two examples are the total eclipses of 2000 Jul 16 and 2029 Jun 26 with umbral magnitudes of 1.7684 and 1.8436, respectively.
nasa

1949?
john hagee is teaching omens. for profit.
Thank you. That is interesting information, and you are right about John Hagee.
 
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Thank you. That is interesting information, and you are right about John Hagee.
In 2008, Hagee was criticized for suggesting that Hurricane Katrina was a result of God's wrath toward the city of New Orleans for planning a rally for gays and lesbians.


He later apologized for his remarks and expressed sympathy for those who suffered, saying "ultimately neither I nor any other person can know the mind of God concerning Hurricane Katrina. I should not have suggested otherwise."
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The_highwayman

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I know we disagree on lots old hermit, but on this one we agree. Hagee violates the Peace of God, and seems to be sowing confusions, fear, uncertainty and doubt. He is also out of context on Joel 2. Behind all this Hagee is attempting to state the rapture is coming soon, because the complete thesis of his book rests on Joel 2.31

[SUP]31 [/SUP]The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and terrible day of the Lord come.


I have friends who bought this book and the companion study guides and are now proclaiming the rapture is now months away and they are so carried away by this false teaching they are doing everything to get rapture ready...and instilling fear into everyone.

I have a dear friend that is a Rabbi and a Messianic Jew and before that she was a Rabbinical Jew and she does see omen for Israel behind these Blood moons, but believes Hagee will proven wrong, because he is trying to tie it to the Rapture.
 

KohenMatt

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I have a dear friend that is a Rabbi and a Messianic Jew and before that she was a Rabbinical Jew and she does see omen for Israel behind these Blood moons, but believes Hagee will proven wrong, because he is trying to tie it to the Rapture.
If he's trying to tie it into rapture, then I think he's wrong, because, well, there is no rapture (;))

But I think on some level there is something to be said with significant events happening regarding Israel as a nation during preceding blood moons, but I won't make any statement for or against a more prophetic meaning.
 
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The_highwayman

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But I think on some level there is something to be said with significant events happening regarding Israel as a nation during preceding blood moons, but I won't make any statement for or against a more prophetic meaning.
This is how I feel as well and my Rabbi Friend does say that significant events are in store for Israel. I do believe we are seeing the start of the Ezekiel 38 war and other signs. I also have enough faith in the word to believe the stars and planets and all things celestial do bear signs of the times.

I think Hagee is really stretching this....and passing it off as something new.
 
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I have a dear friend that is a Rabbi and a Messianic Jew and before that she was a Rabbinical Jew and she does see omen for Israel behind these Blood moons
what are they, and why are they tied to Israel?

The Blood Moon Prophecy is an idea popularized by Christian pastors John Hagee and Mark Biltz, which states that an ongoing tetrad (a series of four consecutive total lunar eclipses, with six full moons in between, and no intervening partial lunar eclipses) which began with the April 2014 lunar eclipse is a sign of significant things to come. Biltz believes that the Second Coming will coincide with the final eclipse of the tetrad, while Hagee only believes the eclipses are a sign of coming change in the course of history for Israel.

In John Hagee's book, Four Blood Moons: Something is about to change, he argues that the timing of the eclipse and subsequent eclipse in the tetrad (all coinciding with Passover and Sukkot) and the "rarity" of a tetrad is strong evidence a major change of course in history will occur. Both Hagee and Biltz[a]note that the last three tetrads to coincide with Passover and Sukkot roughly corresponded with important events in Jewish history: the 1493–94 tetrad roughly aligns with the 1492 expulsion of the Jews from Spain; the 1949–50 event roughly corresponds with the re-establishment of the state of Israel in 1948 and the ensuing 1948 Arab-Israeli War; and the 1967–68 tetrad started right before the Six Day War. The tetrad is thus seen a "sign" of things to come.[3]

Overall, there have been 62 tetrads since the first century AD, eight of which have coincided with the feasts of Passover and Sukkot.[1]


Blood Moon Prophecy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

since passover and Sukkot fall on full moons, isn't it likely eventually a few of those tetrads will occur at the same time eventually. notice the word roughly in the above article. that means forcing it all to fit.

to the best of my knowledge, that "blood" moon isn't even seen in Israel. some sign.
 
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leasamimee

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I think some of his prophecy are significant. I am not really sure if its all true but inspite of all the bad phenomenon about the blood moon (if it does really happend) we need to remember that we have Jesus to pray and trust Whom will never leaves us.
 
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I think some of his prophecy are significant. I am not really sure if its all true but inspite of all the bad phenomenon about the blood moon (if it does really happend) we need to remember that we have Jesus to pray and trust Whom will never leaves us.
what bad phenomenon?
 
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what bad phenomenon?
I dont know if its true . Someone shared this article to me. What do you think about this?



21 Events Coming
By Maurice Sklar
Posted by remnantreminder on March 26, 2014 in End Times
21 EVENTS THAT WILL HAPPEN VERY SOON:
John 16:13-14
Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and HE WILL SHEW YOU THINGS TO COME; he shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.
The LORD spoke to me today AGAIN. So much is happening so fast. As I am typing this, there is such urgency, that it is pouring out of me faster than I can write. Oh! dear LORD, help me to be accurate and faithful to your Word! AMEN.

I must write these down for you:
1. ISRAEL IS ABOUT TO ATTACK IRAN. The whole world will become even more anti-Semitic and despise Israel. Israel will succeed in removing the nuclear threat almost completely, but there will be war. Israel will be hurt, primarily from the rocket attacks. This strike against Iran will provoke the neighboring Arab nations and they will attempt to retaliate, which will then go nuclear. War is coming!
2. THE NATIONS OF THE WORLD, ESPECIALLY THE WEST, WILL PANIC; THERE WILL BE A DRAMATIC INCREASE IN THE PRICE OF OIL. This will trigger financial disasters in Europe, America, and many nations. The dollar will further dramatically lose its’ value.
3. THE EURO WILL SUDDENLY JUST COLLAPSE. Then, THE DOLLAR WILL FOLLOW. A new global currency will immediately take their place.
4. VLADIMIR PUTIN IS PREPARING THE WAY FOR ANOTHER LEADER TO RISE IN RUSSIA. He will be the Magog of Ezekiel 38. But before this, Putin will try to take over other nations that once were Satellite nations of the former Soviet Union. He will be overthrown and deposed, but will be replaced by a ruthless man who will try to take over even the Middle East by sudden and rapid conquest. Of course, according to Ezekiel 38-39, he, along with the nations with him, his “hordes”, will be defeated when he attacks Israel from the north.
5. THE RAPTURE OF THE BRIDE WILL HAPPEN SUDDENLY. This can come at any moment now. It is not chronological with these events…but, a mystery hid in God. HE CAN COME NOW AT ANY MOMENT! Please make sure you are right with God!
6. THE WHOLE WORLD WILL COLLAPSE ECONOMICALLY AND A MIRACULOUS LEADER WILL ARISE OUT OF THE NEAR EAST. He will be Satan incarnate, but people will blindly follow him, thinking he is actually the Messiah.
7. HE WILL IMMEDIATELY ESTABLISH SOME ORDER, PARTICULARLY IN EUROPE, BUT IT WILL BE SO BAD THAT PEOPLE ALL OVER THE WORLD WILL BE IN A PANIC. They will just embrace anyone that seems to have some answers…especially the man of perdition who is possessed by Satan himself and will be anointed with more charm and charisma than any other world leader in all of history. No one will be able to resist him, unless the Holy Spirit supernaturally opposes and stops his deception on a person.
8. GOD WILL RELEASE HIS END TIME TRIBULATION PROPHETS, EVANGELISTS AND APOSTLES WHO WILL DEMONSTRATE THE AUTHORITY OF GOD IN THE EARTH. They will preach the Gospel of Jesus, proclaim judgments and calamities, and these will immediately follow. Millions of souls will be saved, because of these men who proclaim the gospel in fire and glory. Miracles will follow them. Thousands will be raised from the dead; food and water and provision will occur wherever they are preaching. Healing miracles will be manifested that will arrest the entire world as they watch on the television news, etc. The fear of the LORD will be so great that they will call fire down even upon the White House and Congress. I saw the Resolute Desk in the Oval Office hit by a lightning bolt and cleaved in two down the middle. The entire Government will fall on its’ face and cry out to God for mercy. He will answer and move in great Revival, not just in America, but around the world.
9. TERRORISTS ACTS OF TERRIBLE DESTRUCTION SHALL BEGIN TO HIT THROUGHOUT THE WORLD AFTER THE FIRST OF THE FOUR BLOOD MOONS IN A FEW WEEKS. Earthquakes and floods, fires, bombs, volcanic activity, will greatly increase, particularly in the Moslem nations and the ring of fire regions.
10. A WORD TO THE NATIONS NOW! IT IS GOING TO GET REALLY DARK. WE HAVEN’T SEEN OR EVEN IMAGINED THE TERRIBLE CALAMITIES ABOUT TO COME. The protective covering of grace will be removed and the birth pangs will greatly increase over the next 18 months. With each of these heavenly signs, greater calamities will follow.
11. WHAT DO THE BLOOD MOONS SIGNIFY IN THE HEAVENS?
a) Wars coming in Israel to destroy it before the Jubilee of Jerusalem
b) The End of the times of the Gentiles – the Age of Grace is ending.
c) The Beginning of Jacob’s Trouble…Seven Years Tribulation
d) The Signals that the Day of the LORD is beginning.
12. THERE ARE FOUR PHASES OF THE WITHDRAWAL OF PROTECTION AND GRACE FROM THE EARTH.
These four phases coincide directly with the four appearances of the blood moons. There will be judgments during and after each one as they appear…then there will be a respite of grace and a harvest of souls after each one. The first one of these is coming in a few weeks during Passover. Each of these four moons will bring worse judgments upon the earth. Israel and the nations will go into travail of the terrible darkness covering the earth.
13. THE LORD GAVE ME SEVERAL INDICATORS OF EXACTLY WHERE WE ARE AT IN HIS TIMETABLE.
a) On the statue of the Gentile nations recorded in Daniel, we are almost to the toes…Most of the feet of clay is now in place. The mixture of clay and iron signify the erosion of authority and leadership. The statue starts with Nebuchadnezzar in Babylon, who was given more absolute authority of the Gentile empires than any one. All the empires since had less power and authority from then on. But, in the last almost 120 years, there has been a collapse in leadership in all the nations…now we are well into the feet of clay, which represents the very last of the rule of the Roman Empire…it will be revived into 10 “toes”, or regions during the last seven years, led by the Antichrist. We are now at the very edge of those toes on God’s prophetic time clock.
14. b) The Horseman of Revelation chapter 5 will begin to ride – these four blood moons are a warning of their approach! I pray that they don’t come exactly with each eclipse. But, the Holy Spirit spoke to me that they are directly related and are involved in their release upon earth.
1) The revealing of the Anti-Christ bringing false peace. The White Horse: At first he will not be recognized as evil by anyone except to those filled with the Holy Spirit – the Tribulation saints. The world will adore him, worship him fanatically, and he will “conquer” at first with a bow and no arrow…flattery, diplomacy, Mystery Babylon religion, etc. He will deceive nearly everyone. This leader will emerge soon after the Rapture.
2) The Red Horse: Peace will be removed and war will be unleashed on earth.
3) The Black Horse: Famine from confiscation of food and resources: notice verse 6 – first it will be food regulated and rationed by the Antichrist system: then, after that will come oil and wine which is fuel, water, property and every essential thing. EVERYTHING will be regulated…buying and selling will be completely monitored when the 666 system is fully in place.
4) The Pale Horse: Death by war, starvation, and demonic possession (verse 9b – by death and by the beasts of the earth)…demons and evil spirits released that have the power to kill, steal and destroy will be allowed to operate…BY THESE MEANS, ONE QUARTER OF THE EARTH’S POPULATION WILL BE DESTROYED ACCORDING TO THIS VERSE.
(Note: Obama is not this leader…he is what I would call a “mini-anti.” He is possessed and operates in the same Antichrist spirit, but he is NOT “the Big Cheese.”)
The Antichrist cannot be revealed until the Bride of Messiah, the overcoming church, is raptured. But he is alive now, I believe, and ready to take his place in the right time.
15. THERE ARE EVIL ANGELIC BEINGS THAT ARE CHAINED IN HELL. THEY ARE ABOUT TO BE RELEASED UPON THE EARTH. These are not just demons; they were once high ranking angels under Lucifer before he fell from heaven. They are horrible beyond understanding. They will bring such disasters and misery upon those left on earth that you cannot begin to know…it will be 100 times worse than the worst horror movie you have ever seen. They will bring torment, torture, and destruction upon millions.
16. HORDES OF DEMONS WILL FOLLOW THE COMMAND OF THESE EVIL ANGELS. In the past 10 years, there has been a exponential rise in the occult, false religions, satan worship, and witchcraft. This is because “the great falling away” from God that has happened progressively during the past nearly 120 years. Satan is raging upon the earth even with the Bride’s intercession and our prayers restraining. He knows his time is short. When this final restraint is removed, literally, all hell will break loose upon the earth for seven years.
There are already demons that have the power on earth to appear in any form, perfect men and women in beauty that cause the saints to fall into lust. The internet is polluting the whole world. These demons actually manifest and come out of computers and have sex and every depraved thing with wicked people. Many “Christians” are in chains of bondage. There are millions of children and babies being offered on the altar of sex trafficking, abortion, perversion, satanic ritual sacrifices, and even bestiality. The blood of the innocents is crying out before the throne of God! This is fuelled directly by witchcraft. This is such an abomination that it hastens the Day of the Wrath of God with every passing hour. If this is happening now, “in a green tree, what will it be like when it is dry?!” Evil abominations beyond what you can imagine will fill the earth, after the rapture of the Bride…for then, ALL RESTRAINT OF EVIL WILL BE REMOVED FOR SEVEN YEARS.
17. MEANWHILE IN HEAVEN … WE SHALL JOIN WITH THE OLD AND NEW TESTAMENT SAINTS OF THE PAST AND PRESENT GENERATIONS…the righteous dead shall be raised first, then we shall meet the LORD in the air, and we shall ever be with the LORD. Then we shall go to the Judgment Seat of Messiah, and receive our rewards for what we did in our lives on earth for Yeshua’s Kingdom. What a time of rejoicing it will be for those who forsook all and followed Him in obedience!
18. WE SHALL – THE BRIDE OF OUR LORD – ALL GATHER TOGETHER WITH YESHUA IN HEAVEN TO PARTICIPATE IN THE MARRIAGE SUPPER OF THE LAMB. It will be our wedding day! We shall be forever wed to our Bridegroom King – Jesus!
19. WE SHALL HAVE SEVEN YEARS IN HEAVEN WHERE WE PREPARE TO RULE AND REIGN WITH YESHUA WHEN HE RETURNS TO EARTH.
20. AT THE END OF THIS TERRIBLE TIME ON EARTH, JESUS SHALL GET UPON A WHITE HORSE, AND WE SHALL RIDE HEAVENLY HORSES ALSO! We shall follow behind Him as He returns to the earth to establish His 1,000 year Kingdom. He shall destroy the armies gathered together from all the nations in the valley of Megiddo in Israel, with just a word from His mouth…the sword of Messiah’s Word. Like Martin Luther wrote in his famous hymn, “A Mighty Fortress is Our God”…”One little Word will fell him (Satan and all evil.) Praise the LORD!
21. WE SHALL FIGHT THAT LAST BATTLE WITH HIM. He will conquer all evil and we will with Him also! Then Yeshua our Messiah, the Son of David, shall take up His throne and rule and reign forever! We shall rule and reign with Him.
May the LORD bless His prophetic Word.
By the way, this is all in the Bible…read it for yourself…
Are YOU ready to meet the LORD?
Luke 21:36
Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.
Shalom!
Dr. Maurice H. Sklar
Monday, March 24, 2014
 

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I'm just disappointed that the sky was too cloudy for me to see the blood moon last night.
 
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leasamimee

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I'm just disappointed that the sky was too cloudy for me to see the blood moon last night.
What time did the blood moon occur in ur country . Here in Philippines Im totally asleep because it shows 3 am . I dont see it too XD :))
 

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What time did the blood moon occur in ur country . Here in Philippines Im totally asleep because it shows 3 am . I dont see it too XD :))
It happened around 3 am for me too. I'm in the eastern United States. I'd set my alarm to see it but like I said, it was too cloudy.