Speaking in tongue: What do they speak about?

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sanglina

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People here (CC) have talked much about speaking in tongues and to be honest, I came to know about its prevalence among many Christians (probably in the West) even today. From what I have read here in the discussions on the same, I understand that speaking in tongue is speaking different language. Now, what I am curious about is what do the speakers spoke about when they speak in tongues? Do they share the gospel or simply reveal some kind of prophetic vision or stuffs like that? I have once asked this question here in one of the threads on it but nobody answered and so I am making a new thread in the hope of getting a sincere response from those that have spoken/witnessed it.

PS: Please people, understand that this is not a debate about whether speaking in tongue is biblical/relevant or not. I am putting forth this question as I am curious and sincerely wanted to know about it. So, if someone who have spoken in tongue or have witnessed it can share their experience, I would appreciate it much.
 
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Agricola

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Which type? There are a couple of different types, one is the translation type, speaking in foriegn language to preach gospel, the other is a language from the spirit which is often called "prayer tounge". Only time I use this is when I have not got anything to say or just want to sing praise in it, or I am prompted to by HOly SPirit, what I am saying I have no idea, as only God knows ,it is meant for God, Jesus and Holy Spirit only.

If I do not know why I feel prompted to pray for someone I will pray in tongues, however a couple of heartfelt words in our own language is proberbly worth more than several minutes of talking in tongues.

This should really be a private thing, however from time to time, once a month on average in church service, someone will stand up and speak something in tongues, its always one of 5 people who have more of a prophetic thing going on with their gifts, this should always be accompanied by a translation, again by one of a few people, which is then further prayed over and tested out by the pastor and other leaders of our church.
 

sanglina

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Which type? There are a couple of different types, one is the translation type, speaking in foriegn language to preach gospel, the other is a language from the spirit which is often called "prayer tounge". Only time I use this is when I have not got anything to say or just want to sing praise in it, or I am prompted to by HOly SPirit, what I am saying I have no idea, as only God knows ,it is meant for God, Jesus and Holy Spirit only.

If I do not know why I feel prompted to pray for someone I will pray in tongues, however a couple of heartfelt words in our own language is proberbly worth more than several minutes of talking in tongues.

This should really be a private thing, however from time to time, once a month on average in church service, someone will stand up and speak something in tongues, its always one of 5 people who have more of a prophetic thing going on with their gifts, this should always be accompanied by a translation, again by one of a few people, which is then further prayed over and tested out by the pastor and other leaders of our church.
Thank you for the prompt response but to be honest I have no idea about its types. But from what you said, I am curious like if a person speaks in tongues (foreign language) to preach the gospel (the translation type), then are the audience able to comprehend what the speaker is preaching or if the message needs translation for the audience, are the gospels preached different or more special then the ones given in the Bible?

Can you also kindly elaborate more on speaking in tongues for prophetic purposes? Like what kind of prophetic thing do they speak about and how does the elders in the church tested it out and stuffs like that?
 

posthuman

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however a couple of heartfelt words in our own language is proberbly worth more than several minutes of talking in tongues.
Paul thought the ratio was a bit bigger even than that:
But in the church I would rather speak five intelligible words to instruct others than ten thousand words in a tongue.
(1 Corinthians 14:19)

:)
 

posthuman

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if anyone ever spoke in tongues properly to me, all i heard was my native language so i wouldn't even know that they had been speaking in tongues :)

i'm a member of some Brazillian & Hispanic message groups, so i have heard the gospel and proclimation of Christ's resurrection in Portuguese & Spanish a few times haha. but these were brothers & sisters speaking in their own native language, and i used a translating software to understand.

i've never attended a charismatic/pentecostal church, so i can't speak about that. but as far as the examples in the scripture of speaking in tongues, every one of them was praising God, proclaiming the gospel and glorifying God. examples of prophesy in the Bible were always in a language everyone could understand - though Paul giving instruction that unless someone could interpret, people speaking in tongues should keep quiet when we are assembled, seems to indicate that it's possible prophetic messages are given this way -- but not without proper interpretation, or they are of course worthless to anyone that can't understand them.
 
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Some things can not be uttered in simple words.. I know sometimes there is a mere groaning that has no words in my spirit... god knows what my spirit is groaning about even if I do not... there are utterances the holy spirit gives.. I believe its about communing with God as he gives us the ability to do so..God will bring the understanding to us as we continually seek Him in fellowship... Hes just awesome this way!
 

sanglina

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Thank you for the prompt response but to be honest I have no idea about its types. But from what you said, I am curious like if a person speaks in tongues (foreign language) to preach the gospel (the translation type), then are the audience able to comprehend what the speaker is preaching or if the message needs translation for the audience, are the gospels preached different or more special then the ones given in the Bible?
I think I didnot word it well ^. What I am trying to say here is that, is it because the gospel is rather different from the ones given in the Bible that it needed to be preached in a foreign language for the benefit of the audience who ironically can not comprehend it unless translated by someone else? Or simply put: what's the whole point of preaching the gospel in tongues?
 

posthuman

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Or simply put: what's the whole point of preaching the gospel in tongues?
at pentecost, there were many people from different areas gathered, and they all heard the gospel in their own tongues! so the point is glorifying God, same as hearing ans speaking the word in our own languages.

there's no benefit to hearing something you can't understand unless it's interpreted. and then, it's the interpretation that's useful to you, not another language. that's why Paul wrote that speaking in tongues is for unbelievers, who might hear and understand their own language, or for the person themselves filled with the Spirit, but then only to their mind if they understand too, though their soul is nourished. unless someone can understand what's said, it's nothing but confusion!

i'd like to hear about what was interpreted too. i know i've read posts where people say they speak in tongues themselves, and have heard it ... (waits to hear)

 

jogoldie

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When the day of pentecost came....Acts 2:2 When suddenly there came a sound from heaven like the rushing of a violent
Tempest blast, and it filled the whole house in which they were sitting.
2:3. And there appeared to them tongues resembling fire, which were separated
. and distributed and which settled on each of them.
2:4 And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other languages
as the Spirit kept giving them clear and loud expression.

Now in 1Corinthians chapter 12...explains the gifts God gives us...in verse 10 He tells us various kinds of tongues and the ability
to interpret tongues....since the Spirit gives us this it must be spiritual language? Or of the angels?
I put it in questions because I am giving you my opinion ...so you know how that is...
 

posthuman

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....since the Spirit gives us this it must be spiritual language? Or of the angels?
not necessarily - in the old testament, it's said many times about prophets 'the Spirit of the Lord came over them' and then they gave the Word of God in their native language. none of Israel's prophets spoke in tongues, and if they heard in angel language and then translated, that's not written anywhere (except in the book of mormon lol).

also all the angels in the bible spoke so that all the people that heard them understood.
 

jogoldie

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Lol....yes and I was just looking for that while I was posting and I was not finding it......dropped the ball......but I knew one of my buddies
would pick it up and run with it......thats why we have to stick together ......teamwork...

Really book of mormon............lol
 
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I think I didnot word it well ^. What I am trying to say here is that, is it because the gospel is rather different from the ones given in the Bible that it needed to be preached in a foreign language for the benefit of the audience who ironically can not comprehend it unless translated by someone else? Or simply put: what's the whole point of preaching the gospel in tongues?
I believe that tongues is a known language somewhere but not known by the one speaking. God gives the words that are spoken - your spirit speaking in direct communication with God.

1 Cor. 14:2 For he that speaketh in an tongue speaketh not unto men but unto God: for no man understandeth: howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries . . . .(12:4a) He that speaketh in an tongue edifieth himself: This is basically speaking about speakiing in tongues as prayer between the believer and God.

1 Cor. 14:4b but he that prophesieth edifieth the church. 5) I would that ye all spake with tongues; but rather that ye prophesied: for greater is he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues, except he interpret, that the church may receive edifying.

1 Cor. 14:26b,27 Let all things be done unto edifying. If any man speak in an tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course [in order]; and let one interpret.

The verses above are regarding speaking in tongues in a group setting - the interpretation is the sum or gist of what was given in tongues and will be a message from God to the people present for edification or to God in praise - all for the purpose of edifying.

 

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If you read the Bible it becomes clear
the disiples were about to be scattered from Jerusalem thourghout the world
God gave each person the languages they would need when they traveled to witness

In Noahs day at the tower of Babel the one language was split into hundreds in a second by God
surel God can give people languages in a second he did it beofer

Paul says he speaks in TONGUES MORE THAN YOU ALL
LANGUAGES more than you all

he recieved multitude of languages he traveled a lot

The king james interpreters twisted the original into "a heavenly tongue" so satan could confuse the churches

people who speak in tongues do not know what they are saying
ask them
they do not know what they are saying

and PAul says if you speak in a different language you need an interpreter to edify the chruch and teach the church what you are to teach them

if you dont even know WHAT you are saying how cn you teach?

there were dozens of languages in that time and when christians travled sometimes they couldnt understand

since Paul had MANY LANGUAGES he could use
this disproves tongues as a SINGLE HEAVENLY LANGUE because he used plural

so basically the tongues are bogus interpretation

and people are so funny
they KNOW what they are saying they dont even understand themselves so there is no way to teach this bogus way
if you have spoken in tongues
you KNOW you dont have a clue what you said
because
you did not
say anything
and satan sits back and laughs as the christians speak like idiots
these are christians, look at them
what fools
and he laughs and laughs and laughs

and we have so much pride we stand up for this error and pretend it is intelligent
when you know full well there is not an intelligent syllable in it
that is human pride

like the emperors cloths
he went without clothes and the people would not admit they could not see the clothes when there werent any clothes

shysters
moneymakes
demoniacs
wolves

leave that stuff
go home and read your Bible
the new living translation is nice
read it through and pray, pray pray

you recieve the REAL holy spirit (not this demon possession of tongues) by reading and doing the word of God
woshipping God on your knees and asking him to cleans you from your sins.

that other spirit, as Jesus says
"You know not what spirit you are of"

tongues ia a demonic hoax and all you have to do is admit it and pray to JEsus to keep them away from you
and read your Bible and give your heart to JEsus in noble life instead of silly foolish religions like this.
amen praise the Lord
Blessed be the Lord
 

jogoldie

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Now I'll tell my experiance with speaking in tongues......I was a new christian and my friend who was.learned in the
Scripture had asked me if I wanted to try...we sat on her bed .....her son who was twelve and my six year old daughter
were there....we prayed ....then I just started speaking ....I speak no other language but english ...that was amazing
enough ...but what was truly amazing was her son interpreted...he spoke clearly and like a grown person...
It was a beautiful message.....kind and loving.....i could hear the child talking and I even heard myself talking at
the same time ...but it felt like the words went straight through my heart and not my ears...if you know what I mean.....
 

sanglina

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I believe that tongues is a known language somewhere but not known by the one speaking. God gives the words that are spoken - your spirit speaking in direct communication with God.

1 Cor. 14:2 For he that speaketh in an tongue speaketh not unto men but unto God: for no man understandeth: howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries . . . .(12:4a) He that speaketh in an tongue edifieth himself: This is basically speaking about speakiing in tongues as prayer between the believer and God.

1 Cor. 14:4b but he that prophesieth edifieth the church. 5) I would that ye all spake with tongues; but rather that ye prophesied: for greater is he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues, except he interpret, that the church may receive edifying.

1 Cor. 14:26b,27 Let all things be done unto edifying. If any man speak in an tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course [in order]; and let one interpret.

The verses above are regarding speaking in tongues in a group setting - the interpretation is the sum or gist of what was given in tongues and will be a message from God to the people present for edification or to God in praise - all for the purpose of edifying.

While agreeing with most of what you posted here, my post (the one you quoted) was actually in reference to the translation types of speaking in tongues where the speaker preached the gospel in foreign language aka Agrilora's response to my OP.

PS: I'll be logging off for now but will get back to you guys tomorrow for further queries that I might have. So, please keep posting :)
 
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RickyZ

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In 1 Cor 14 Paul talks about the difference between public and private tongues, ie Prophecy and 'prayer language'. A prophetic tongue requires interpretation and at the Pentecost event it was those who heard them speaking in their own languages who were the interpreters. But not all tongues in the Bible were so accompanied, nor does Paul ever say they have to be, unless they are public.

What would be the purpose of a tongue, as in the 'prayer language' meaning? Say you are praying for someone, but you don't know everything about their situation. If you knew all the details you could bring them to God, but you don't so you can't. But the Holy Spirit knows them. So if you allow the Holy Spirit to pray thru you, you may 'bring unspeakable things to light'. Likewise, suppose something's going down somewhere and the Holy Spirit needs someone to pray over it. You'd pray over it, if you knew, but how are you going to know? The Holy Spirit knows, and by allowing the Spirit to pray thru us we may intercede in things we know nothing about.

And then there's the origin of 'tongues'. As man's numbers grew after creation he had a single spiritual language. It was one of the few things he kept out of the fall, and it persisted until the tower of Babel (Gen 11:1 – 8). When the Messiah returns to restore all that man has lost, one of those things restored will be that pure singular spiritual language (Zeph 3:9). Christ has won the authority to restore all things, but has yet to return to this world to enforce it. Tongues are a way for us to access that future restored language now, thru the Holy Spirit, so that we may enforce His authority for Him.

Where it talks about tongues 'ceasing' (1 Cor 13:8-10 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. 9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10 but when completeness comes, what is in part disappears.), it's not that the tongue will stop, but it will cease to be known as a tongue, because it will be instead our native language when Christ returns. At that point English (French German whatever) would be known as the tongue, since they would be the 'outsider' languages. Completeness is yet to come, perfection is yet to come, not in the heavenlies but here on earth. And so the gifts end when Christ returns and bring completeness to us, because at that point they become moot. We won’t need the gift of healing anymore when nobody’s getting sick anymore.

Tongues are not necessary for salvation, nor should it be demanded as proof of Spiritual Baptism. As with all gifts of the Spirit, it is available to all but not required of any... altho God does talk about those who hide their lights under bushels (Mark 4:21, Matt 5:15, Luke 11:33), and bury their talents in the ground (Matt 25:14-28). And the gifts, while not required, are effective in helping produce the fruits of the Spirit that are required. Let me propose that again, the gifts of the Spirit are intended to help us produce the fruits of the Spirit. These include discerningly placed tongues.

Given a good thing, we humans will find some way to screw it up. We will over-use, over-sell, and over-the-top it. That's just our nature. That's when outsiders start thinking we're crazy, and that's where Paul tells some to put a leash on it.
Place and moderation are key to tongues being useful vs being foolish. And being foolish with God’s gifts is never a good idea.

And that includes denying them.
 
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I think I didnot word it well ^. What I am trying to say here is that, is it because the gospel is rather different from the ones given in the Bible that it needed to be preached in a foreign language for the benefit of the audience who ironically can not comprehend it unless translated by someone else? Or simply put: what's the whole point of preaching the gospel in tongues?[/QUOT,
I don't speak with tongues,Othert than my native Greek and English , but hear is what the tongues in the bible are all about.

1st Cor 14: 20 brethren, do not be children in understanding however, in malice babes, but in understanding be MATURE.

V21. In the law it is written,With men of other tongues and other lips , I will speak to this people,( unbelieving Jews ) and yet
for all that, they will not HEAR ME,says the Lord,

v 22. Therefore tongues are for a sign, NOT to them who believe but to them who believe NOT,but prophesying is not for
unbelievers but for those who believe,....

now what would the gentiles do if the hear someone to speak with tongues? what sign is tongues to the gentiles? NONE.but
to the Jews would be the prophesy of Isaiah 28:11-12. Notice I ( God ) will speak to these people.
I hope that help clarified the whole point of the tongues...God bless..
 

Agricola

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Sanglina, when it comes to speaking to a person in their own language, the gospel message is same as what you will read in the Bible. Of course it could be that the message is just something the person needs to hear.
 

Agricola

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you recieve the REAL holy spirit (not this demon possession of tongues) by reading and doing the word of God
woshipping God on your knees and asking him to cleans you from your sins.

that other spirit, as Jesus says
"You know not what spirit you are of"

tongues ia a demonic hoax and all you have to do is admit it and pray to JEsus to keep them away from you
and read your Bible and give your heart to JEsus in noble life instead of silly foolish religions like this.
amen praise the Lord
Blessed be the Lord
Oh dear.

Yes there is a lot of fakery a lot of demonic spirits fooling Christians in this, but that does not mean everyone who speaks in tongues like myself are demon possessed and do not have the Holy Spirit.

Are you saying I am possessed with a demon?
 
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While agreeing with most of what you posted here, my post (the one you quoted) was actually in reference to the translation types of speaking in tongues where the speaker preached the gospel in foreign language aka Agrilora's response to my OP.

PS: I'll be logging off for now but will get back to you guys tomorrow for further queries that I might have. So, please keep posting :)
The reason I didn't have a response to "types of speaking in tongues where the speaker peached the gospel in foreign language" is because I don't believe that that is what tongues is for.

God bless.