Is John baptism same with water baptism that taking place today?

[Jackson123]

Water baptism today is base on

Matt 28:19. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

This command happen after John the Baptize die. This command happen when Jesus has risen from the death.

So what is John baptism in the name or Father Son and Holy Ghost?

 

[Spokenpassage]

John's baptism was a baptism of repentance, telling people to believe in Jesus Christ who was coming after him. (Acts 19:4).

 

[Jackson123]

John's baptism was a baptism of repentance, telling people to believe in Jesus Christ who was coming after him. (Acts 19:4).

[h=3]Acts 19:4[/h]King James Version (KJV)

4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.


Matt 28:19.Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

Thank brother.

Is John baptism in the name of Father, Son and Holy Ghost?

 

[posthuman]

Acts 18:
24 Meanwhile a Jew named Apollos, a native of Alexandria, came to Ephesus. He was a learned man, with a thorough knowledge of the Scriptures. 25 He had been instructed in the way of the Lord, and he spoke with great fervor and taught about Jesus accurately, though he knew only the baptism of John. 26 He began to speak boldly in the synagogue. When Priscilla and Aquila heard him, they invited him to their home and explained to him the way of God more adequately.
27 When Apollos wanted to go to Achaia, the brothers and sisters encouraged him and wrote to the disciples there to welcome him. When he arrived, he was a great help to those who by grace had believed. 28 For he vigorously refuted his Jewish opponents in public debate, proving from the Scriptures that Jesus was the Messiah.

John's baptism was only in repentance from sin toward the Father, and John taught that we should follow the Son who came after John; that He would baptize with the Spirit - but until Jesus came to John, John did not know Him, so John was not baptizing in "the name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost" - this is not the same baptism.
as here Apollos knew only John's baptism - there was more He did not know until those that had been given the knowledge of the fullness of God's grace explained it to him. some say Apollos wrote Hebrews - it isn't known - but for certain here is an example that shows John's baptism was not the complete gospel.

 

[Jackson123]

Acts 18:
24 Meanwhile a Jew named Apollos, a native of Alexandria, came to Ephesus. He was a learned man, with a thorough knowledge of the Scriptures. 25 He had been instructed in the way of the Lord, and he spoke with great fervor and taught about Jesus accurately, though he knew only the baptism of John. 26 He began to speak boldly in the synagogue. When Priscilla and Aquila heard him, they invited him to their home and explained to him the way of God more adequately.
27 When Apollos wanted to go to Achaia, the brothers and sisters encouraged him and wrote to the disciples there to welcome him. When he arrived, he was a great help to those who by grace had believed. 28 For he vigorously refuted his Jewish opponents in public debate, proving from the Scriptures that Jesus was the Messiah.

John's baptism was only in repentance from sin toward the Father, and John taught that we should follow the Son who came after John; that He would baptize with the Spirit - but until Jesus came to John, John did not know Him, so John was not baptizing in "the name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost" - this is not the same baptism.
as here Apollos knew only John's baptism - there was more He did not know until those that had been given the knowledge of the fullness of God's grace explained it to him. some say Apollos wrote Hebrews - it isn't known - but for certain here is an example that shows John's baptism was not the complete gospel.

Thank bro, I am agree with you interpretation.

So we can conclude that the thief next to Jesus was not baptized in the name of Father Son and Holy Ghost.

 

[crossnote]

In those days came John the Baptist, preaching in the wilderness of Judaea, And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. For this is he that was spoken of by the prophet Esaias, saying, The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight.
(Mat 3:1-3)

This was a call to clean up their act and be baptised for the King was near and prepare for His Kingdom.

Which later the Jewish leaders rejected the King and therefore the Kingdom.

John's baptism no longer applied as the Kingdom was put in abeyance.

Since the cross baptism is not into the Kingdom but into the Body of Christ the Church.

 

[p_rehbein]

Thank bro, I am agree with you interpretation.

So we can conclude that the thief next to Jesus was not baptized in the name of Father Son and Holy Ghost.

If you are saying he was not "water" baptized...............then yes......he was not.........however, Jesus FORGAVE him his sins because he believed Jesus was who He was..............thus the precious blood of Jesus certainly was applied to him.......

 

[okeyxyz]

Water baptism today is base on

Matt 28:19.Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

This command happen after John the Baptize die. This command happen when Jesus has risen from the death.

So what is John baptism in the name or Father Son and Holy Ghost?

John's baptism ushers in the dispensation of the Jewish Messiah, ie: the full embodiment of the laws of Moses, leading unto it's fulfillment and abolishment.

The christian baptism, in the name(doctrine) of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit ushers in the full embodiment of the true doctrines of christianity, and it comes only after the law is done away with.

Baptism signifies a "birthing/bringing forth" into a dispensation/doctrine.

 

[Cobus]

Thank bro, I am agree with you interpretation.

So we can conclude that the thief next to Jesus was not baptized in the name of Father Son and Holy Ghost.

NO ONE will belong to God if he does not get baptized by Jesus. Jesus baptized the man next to Him right there on the cross. With the Name of the Father, and the Son and the Holy Ghost.... How? This is how....

And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom.
Luk 23:43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.

Jesus said... Life everlasting is .... And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

God blessed that man right there on the Cross to KNOW JESUS AS THE LORD... AND THAT saved the man right there on the cross.... The man did not know Jesus when they nailed Him on the cross, but the moment God REVEALED the LORD JESUS to him he spoke out and said.... LORD. That man KNEW Jesus and the only way he could have known Jesus is the LORD was if the Father REVEALED it to him. And the revelation of Father to the man had Jesus bless Him with the promise of LIFE ETERNAL the baptism of the Holy Spirit. And Jesus baptized the man with the words.... To day you shalt be with me in paradise...

Let me express it one more way.. the moment the man called Jesus, LORD, was the moment God gave that man to Jesus TO SAVE.... And Jesus saves (gives everlasting life) by baptism of Holy Spirit. And Jesus gives this baptism or ETERNAL LIFE to whom Father has given him. As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.

Jesus NEVER baptized a single person in water, but He still baptize people today with everlasting life (Holy Spirit)

In the NAME (not water) of the Father, and the Son and the Holy Ghost.... The Name is the TRUTH (The Word of God) Amen!

 

[Jackson123]

If you are saying he was not "water" baptized...............then yes......he was not.........however, Jesus FORGAVE him his sins because he believed Jesus was who He was..............thus the precious blood of Jesus certainly was applied to him.......

Amen brother.

 

[Jackson123]

John's baptism ushers in the dispensation of the Jewish Messiah, ie: the full embodiment of the laws of Moses, leading unto it's fulfillment and abolishment.

The christian baptism, in the name(doctrine) of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit ushers in the full embodiment of the true doctrines of christianity, and it comes only after the law is done away with.

Baptism signifies a "birthing/bringing forth" into a dispensation/doctrine.

Thank for responding my question. But honestly I am not familiar with baptism Jewish Messiah.

As far as I know before John the Baptize Jewish never doing water baptism.

 

[Jackson123]

NO ONE will belong to God if he does not get baptized by Jesus. Jesus baptized the man next to Him right there on the cross. With the Name of the Father, and the Son and the Holy Ghost.... How? This is how....

And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom.
Luk 23:43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.

Jesus said... Life everlasting is .... And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

God blessed that man right there on the Cross to KNOW JESUS AS THE LORD... AND THAT saved the man right there on the cross.... The man did not know Jesus when they nailed Him on the cross, but the moment God REVEALED the LORD JESUS to him he spoke out and said.... LORD. That man KNEW Jesus and the only way he could have known Jesus is the LORD was if the Father REVEALED it to him. And the revelation of Father to the man had Jesus bless Him with the promise of LIFE ETERNAL the baptism of the Holy Spirit. And Jesus baptized the man with the words.... To day you shalt be with me in paradise...

Let me express it one more way.. the moment the man called Jesus, LORD, was the moment God gave that man to Jesus TO SAVE.... And Jesus saves (gives everlasting life) by baptism of Holy Spirit. And Jesus gives this baptism or ETERNAL LIFE to whom Father has given him. As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.

Jesus NEVER baptized a single person in water, but He still baptize people today with everlasting life (Holy Spirit)

In the NAME (not water) of the Father, and the Son and the Holy Ghost.... The Name is the TRUTH (The Word of God) Amen!

I agree, and that kind of baptism is definitely bring you to heaven. Water baptism ritual not necessary a token to heaven.

 

[tylerbones1313]

Here is an example of rebaptism because Johns baptism was for Repentance and Jesus Name baptism was for remission of sins.

Acts 19

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[Brainfreeze]

Some baptized children, babies, that don't know what sin is.... Why would we be cleansing them of sin ? Did John the Baptist, baptize babies ? Love to see scripture on it.

 

[Kaycie]

John's baptism was a baptism of repentance- it did not take away sins, repentance does not take away sins- only Christ's blood takes away sins when coming in contact. John was preparing God's people to transition from the old law to the new law. The people baptized by John were still under the old covenant. After Christ's death on the cross, those baptized by John had to be baptized into Christ- for the new covenant is was now in affect.

 

[Kaycie]

There is no example of a baby, child, or teen being baptized in the new testament.

 

[lancaster]

The name of the Father is Jesus Christ, Jesus said, "I come in my Father's name." Father is a title and is not a proper name. Notice that the word name is singular. Also see in Acts 2:38 where the Apostles carried out this commandment. You might also look at this scripture in Luk 24:46 And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day: Luk 24:47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. I am a father, but that is not my name. Since Jesus said in the 14th chapter of John that if you have seen Him you have seen the Father then it is reasonable that His name Jesus Christ is also the name of the Father.

 

[heartofdavid]

The name of the Father is Jesus Christ, Jesus said, "I come in my Father's name." Father is a title and is not a proper name. Notice that the word name is singular. Also see in Acts 2:38 where the Apostles carried out this commandment. You might also look at this scripture in Luk 24:46 And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day: Luk 24:47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. I am a father, but that is not my name. Since Jesus said in the 14th chapter of John that if you have seen Him you have seen the Father then it is reasonable that His name Jesus Christ is also the name of the Father.

are you saying they are one and the same,or that they are 2 persons?

 

[MarcR]

Acts 19:4

King James Version (KJV)

4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.


Matt 28:19.Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

Thank brother.

Is John baptism in the name of Father, Son and Holy Ghost?

No it s not. The baptism of Mat 28 is intended to follow a profession of faith. John's baptism was not.

 

[MarcR]

Thank for responding my question. But honestly I am not familiar with baptism Jewish Messiah.

As far as I know before John the Baptize Jewish never doing water baptism.

The Jewish people practiced a water baptism called a Mikvah for converts to judaism but not for Jewish people before John.