#3: Why didn’t GOD forgive the Jews?

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For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth;
to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

(Romans 1:16)

hi, remember who the gospel was first given to? who Jesus walked among, healing and forgiving?

have a pleasant evening,

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[SUP][/SUP]Romans 2:9-11 [SUP]9[/SUP]There will be tribulation and distress for every soul of man who does evil, of the Jew first and also of the Greek,[SUP]10 [/SUP]but glory and honor and peace to everyone who does good, to the Jew first and also to the Greek. [SUP]11[/SUP]For there is no partiality with God.
 
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Romans 2:9-11 [SUP]9[/SUP]There will be tribulation and distress for every soul of man who does evil, of the Jew first and also of the Greek,[SUP]10 [/SUP]but glory and honor and peace to everyone who does good, to the Jew first and also to the Greek. [SUP]11[/SUP]For there is no partiality with God.
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Jews 70 A.D.
Keep well bro,
 
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THE ANSWER:

GOD takes vengeance for his servants, especially the ones with his Spirit.

Deut. 32
[35] To me belongs vengeance, and recompense;
their foot shall slide in due time
for the day of their calamity is at hand,
and the things that shall come upon them make haste.

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Rev.18
[20] Rejoice over her,
you heaven, and you Holy Apostles and Prophets
for GOD has avenged you on her. (Jerusalem 70 A.D.)

The majority of the Israelites killed their Prophets, some Apostles...

Jesus gave the prediction:
Luke. 11
[47] Woe unto you!
for you build the sepulchers of the Prophets,
and your fathers killed them.

[48] Truly you bear witness
that you allow the deeds (murders) of your fathers.
They indeed killed them, and you build their sepulchers.
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[49] Therefore also said the wisdom of God,
I will send them Prophets and Apostles,
a
nd some of them they shall kill and persecute:
[50] That the blood of all of the Prophets,
that was shed,
from the foundation of the world,
may be required of this generation; (70 A.D.)
[51] From the blood of Abel unto the blood of Zacharias,
who perished between the altar and the temple:
verily I say unto you,
It shall be required of this generation. (70 A.D.)

Helpful History:

A COMPLETE Bible and Israelite History,
with GOD and the Word (his Son) – until their end in 70 A.D.

Chronology of the War According to Josephus: Part 7, The Fall of Jerusalem


Josephus.org - The Flavius Josephus Home Page

The Book of Revelation is about the fall of Jerusalem that occurred in 70 A.D.
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We must pay particular attention to the Apostles.



 
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Luke.23
[34] Then Jesus said:
Father, (GOD of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob)
forgive them,
because they do not know what they are doing.
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The Apostles also confirm the fact.

Acts.3
[17] And now, brethren,
I (Peter) know that throughignorance (darkness) you did it,
like your rulers also did.

1 Cor.2
[7] But we (Apostles) speak the wisdom of GOD,
in a mystery (puzzle ??),
even the hidden wisdom,
that GOD ordained, (planned)
before the world,
to our glory (importance)
[8] that none of the princes (the Jewish Rulers),
of this world knew
for had they known it,
they would not have crucified,
the LORD (of Israel) from (of) glory.
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GOD destroyed 2/3 of the Jews in circa 66 - 70 A.D.
Then he cast away the last 1/3 as non Christian Jews. (Eek.5. 2-12)
GOD emptied the land as he promised. (Isa.13 1-5;….Isa.24:1)
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The remnant of Spiritual Israel,
the children of the Prophets, (who are the Apostles and converts)
GOD gave to Jesus, his HAND, as his inheritance and,
to made into Christians.
Anointed Christians are his NEW People
And they a part of a series of NEW things.
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Luke.23
[34] Then Jesus said:
Father, (GOD of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob)
forgive them,
because they do not know what they are doing.

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GOD had a plan for the individual (very sinful) Jew. (John 7:7)
He executed his plan.
It was called predestination.
 
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Jesus is God as is the Father. If Jesus forgave then so did the Father. It is up to man to accept forgiveness.

GOD destroyed 2/3, of the pop., the Temple and Jerusalem in 70 A.D.
The children of the Prophets = The Remnant of Israel = The Apostles and other disciples,
escaped by doing as Jesus told them...


Luke.21
[20] And when you (Apostles &...) shall see Jerusalem
compassed with (Roman) armies, (70 A.D.)
then know that its desolation is nigh.
[21] Then let the Israelites who are in Judaea
flee to the mountains; (Pella)
and let them who are in the midst of Judaea depart out;
and let not them who are in the (Gentile) countries not enter in.
[22] For these are the days of vengeance, (from GOD)
that all things that are written may be fulfilled.
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An On Line: COMPLETE Bible and Israelite History, with GOD and the Word (his Son) – until their end in 70 A.D.

http://www.josephus.org/FlJosephus2/warChronology7Fall.html

www.Josephus.org

You will love the additional understanding.
Jesus predicted GOD’s destruction of Jerusalem,
the Temple and the Jews
BUT the fulfillment is not in the N.T.

The Book of Revelation is about the History, of Jerusalem,
that occurred in 70 A.D.

Europeans have been reading this material for centuries
while N.A. kept the brakes on.
 
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All the apostles were Jews. Those who repent and believe the gospel were and are forgiven. A remnant is saved from each generation.

I believe God has forgiven all the trespasses of the world in Jesus Christ, many refuse to accept his forgiveness. God has forgiven the Jews and the gentiles. God does not force anyone to accept his forgiveness.

God allowed Jerusalem and the Temple to be destroyed in 70ad to show the jewish people that his old covenant with them was no longer in effect, and to this day going on 2,000 years God has not allowed the Temple to be restored.

God has made a new covenant with the world and a new temple which is Jesus Christ, those who enter into the new temple are forgiven. Those who refuse to enter in to the new covenant with God remain in their sin and perish. It is the desire of God that none would perish but that all would come to repentance.

God has forgiven the Jews and the gentiles. Praise be to God.

Christ be with you always.
 
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All the apostles were Jews. Those who repent and believe the gospel were and are forgiven. A remnant is saved from each generation.

I believe God has forgiven all the trespasses of the world in Jesus Christ, many refuse to accept his forgiveness. God has forgiven the Jews and the gentiles. God does not force anyone to accept his forgiveness.

God allowed Jerusalem and the Temple to be destroyed in 70ad to show the jewish people that his old covenant with them was no longer in effect, and to this day going on 2,000 years God has not allowed the Temple to be restored.

God has made a new covenant with the world and a new temple which is Jesus Christ, those who enter into the new temple are forgiven. Those who refuse to enter in to the new covenant with God remain in their sin and perish. It is the desire of God that none would perish but that all would come to repentance.

God has forgiven the Jews and the gentiles. Praise be to God.
Christ be with you always.
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Hello brother,

Jesus asked GOD to forgive them BUT GOD destroyed 2/3 and emptied the land.
He gave the children of the Prophets = the Apostles and others to Jesus,
to be MADE into Christians..
The last 1/3 was cast away as non-Christian Jews, taken away by the Roman army.

Please see Ezek.5:2
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GOOD History...An On Line: COMPLETE Bible and Israelite History,
with GOD and the Word (his Son) – until their end in 70 A.D.

http://www.josephus.org/FlJosephus2/warChronology7Fall.html

www.Josephus.org

You will love the additional understanding.
Jesus predicted GOD’s destruction of Jerusalem,
the Temple and the Jews
BUT the fulfillment is not in the N.T.

Regards to you brother...
 
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Well, technically God/Jesus did give the Jewish people an opportunity to get right numerous times as he stretched out his hands all the day long unto them and as a hen would gather her chicks under her wings God tried....

Jesus and the disciples were sent unto the LOST SHEEP of the house of Israel and GRACE/MERCY was offered unto them first, but they rejected and cried let his blood be upon us and our children.....now they must endure the Great Tribulation so as to be purified by fire!<----as a nation that is!
 
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Well, technically God/Jesus did give the Jewish people an opportunity to get right numerous times as he stretched out his hands all the day long unto them and as a hen would gather her chicks under her wings God tried....

Jesus and the disciples were sent unto the LOST SHEEP of the house of Israel and GRACE/MERCY was offered unto them first, but they rejected and cried let his blood be upon us and our children.....now they must endure the Great Tribulation so as to be purified by fire!<----as a nation that is!
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Hello brother,

From on the cross Jesus asked GOD to forgive them.
GOD destroyed in 70 A.D.
I gave the answer ...

Try Ezek.5:2

Also some good History here:

An On Line: COMPLETE Bible and Israelite History,
with GOD and the Word (his Son) – until their end in 70 A.D.

http://www.josephus.org/FlJosephus2/warChronology7Fall.html

www.Josephus.org

You will love the additional understanding.
Jesus predicted GOD’s destruction of Jerusalem,
the Temple and the Jews
BUT the fulfillment is not in the N.T.

The Book of Revelation is about the History, of Jerusalem,
that occurred in 70 A.D.

Europeans have been reading this material for centuries
while N.A. kept the brakes on.


Keep well,
 
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#38
You will love the additional understanding.
Jesus predicted GOD’s destruction of Jerusalem,
the Temple and the Jews
BUT the fulfillment is not in the N.T.
Jesus preached to the Jews and was rejected by their leaders.

The NT is not about Jerusalem, or the Jews.

It is about Jesus of Nazareth and his revelation in the last days (Heb 1;1-2).
 
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#39
God did forgive them, many refused to receive his forgiveness.

Just to let you know God so far has allowed all to die ALL Jews and ALL other humans have died. Only one has risen from the dead. To him be the glory forever.