The need to appy the principle of 2 Timothy 2:15

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CWJ

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'Study to shew thyself approved unto God,
a workman that needeth not to be ashamed,
rightly dividing the word of truth.'

(2Tim.2:15)

Hello there,

It is God's approval that we are to seek in regard to our treatment of His Word, isn't it? and not the approval of man.

The word 'study' has the meaning of 'endeavouring', and the illustration is of a 'workman', so that it is not for the studious mind only, but for the man and woman who would seek to walk worthy of the Lord, in a manner in keeping with His known will.

Yet, that differs according to the dispensation within which we live: which can be illustrated by the very important fact, that we need to take care not to take what belongs to a past dispensation and interpret (and seek to apply it) within the present dispensation, for in doing so we can place ourselves under law, to which we died, in Christ, and from which Christ has made us free; the law having no power over a man that has died.

To those who lived under the law, it could rightly and truly be said:

"It shall be our righteousness,
if we observe to do all these commandment
before the Lord our God,
as He hath commanded us"

(Deut 6:25)

But to those who live in this present dispensation of grace, it is as truly declared,

"By the deeds of the law
there shall no flesh be justified in His sight.'

(Rom. 3:20)
(see also Gal 2:16; 3:11)

But this is the very opposite of Deut 6:25!

* What then are we to say, or to do?
Which of these two statements is true? and which is false?
The answer is, that neither is false. But both are true if we rightly divide the Word of truth as to it's dispensational truth and teaching.

Deuteronomy 6:25 was true, then 'concerning' Israel; and is in harmony with the covenant of works under which Israel had placed itself. But Rom. 3:20 and Gal 2:16 are true now 'concerning' all three, Jew, Gentile and the Church of God. The statement in these two passages concerning all 'flesh' was made after Israel had broken that covenant (Heb. 10:20); and after Christ had introduced the unconditional 'everlasting covenant' (Heb.13:20) of grace, into which He entered for His people 'before the foundation of the world' (Eph. 1:3,4).

These are two statements exactly opposite to each other. Is it then the fact that the one is true and the other false? No! Both are true; absolutely true. And this will be seen at once if we appropriate each to, and interpret each of, the dispensation to which it properly belongs. The former is not true now in this present dispensation. it was true of those under the Law. The latter is as true now of those who are under Grace.

Yet, unfortunately many still apply Deuteronomy 6:25 to themselves now, and in doing so put themselves under law, and deny their standing which God has given them in Christ; and so they fail to enjoy that liberty wherewith Christ hath made His people free (Gal. 5:1).

In Christ Jesus
Chris
 
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2Thewaters

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Good idea

show me where dispensations are invented in the Bible.
 
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Deu 6:17 Ye shall diligently
keep the commandments of the LORD your God,
and his testimonies,
and his statutes,
which he hath commanded thee.

There are two laws...



Deu 31:24 And it came to pass, when Moses had made an end of writing the words of this law in a book, until they were finished,
Deu 31:25 That Moses commanded the Levites, which bare the ark of the covenant of the LORD, saying,
Deu 31:26 Take this book of the law, and put it in the side of the ark of the covenant of the LORD your God, that it may be there for a witness against thee.

The parchment laws of the laws of Israel were temporary and put in the side of the ark

Deu 10:1 At that time the LORD said unto me, Hew thee two tables of stone like unto the first, and come up unto me into the mount, and make thee an ark of wood.
Deu 10:2 And I will write on the tables the words that were in the first tables which thou brakest, and thou shalt put them in the ark.


these are the ten commandments written on stone and they are forever.


The ones on stone TEN COMMANDMENTS were forever are forever will be will be forever...

the ones on parchment were until Jesus died on the cross (circumcision, land division, sacrificial system)...


and the devil translated the hebraic original Bible into Greek which only has one word instead of
the three hebrew words for the law

commandments of the LORD your God,
and his testimonies,
and his statutes,

which had three separate words for each so there was no doubt,
translated into PAGAN GREEK and lumped under the word LAW

one word
lumped together the three different laws

why?

so that sneaky devil could complain that all the laws were done away with!

and for two thousand years force people to accet it (killing sabbath keepers by burning them on stakes) by the pagan devil church who killed 200 million christians who would dare read the Bible

if you were caught with a Bible you were burned at the stake like Jerome and huss and awingli

read the FOXES BOOK OF MARTYRS
its on the internet it was a historical book

in early america, all children going to PUBLIDC SCHOOL were given a math primer, a dictionary by noah webster, the BIBLE and the FOXES BOOK OF MARTYRS

no kidding.

no the devil has taken over the school system...

so that he could try to convince the religious world that they dont have to keep the ten commandments

that is the work of satan from ages past
to convince eve the ten commandments were not necessary...
that has always been his work

any religion that says the TEN COMMANDMENTS are not binding are his religion...


Jesus said the ten commandments are eternal
David says the ten commandments are eternal
Paul says keep the ten commandments
1 2 3 john says KEEP ON KEEPING the ten commandments
and John revelations says the ten commandments are the center of the great controversy between good and evil

in the end there are a small group of Gods people who keep the ten commandments perfectly
and the large group of false religion will be attacking and killing them


Rev 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.


it is so plain

but the enemy has sneaked in sunday law over 2000 years so we are all commandment breakers and using his favorite mentality, mob rule, anyone who speaks against it is demonized.

Look at the thread s on this site
calling sabbath keepers satanic cults

isnt it weird?

JEsus said those who keep the truth will be hated by the evil world.
 
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2Thewaters

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And falsepastors know it.
they fully know it well.
but it is their INCOME
if they told their churches the truth, they would be fired, for the devil set up the churches that the pastors are hired by the congregation...
so they will never give the real truth
they get fired and over 200 years the pastors became jsut what God said they would become

2 Tim 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
2 Tim 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

the false pastors are easily spotted

you give them bible truth

and they dont respond, they just put up the false disporved twisted post over and over again

they dont care
and they ignore it and immediately put up fancy cut and paste twisted scriptures at the end of every thread so that the last post always gives the big lie again

and they always put up the same fancy few verses from romans that were twisted each time to overwhem the conversation

they dont want to now the truth
they already now it
they want to keep their congragations happy

the day is coming says God that the pastors

Jer 2:8 The priests said not, Where is the LORD? and they that handle the law knew me not: the pastors also transgressed against me, and the prophets prophesied by Baal, and walked after ... profit.


Jer 2:9 Wherefore I will yet plead with you, saith the LORD, and with your children's children will I plead.
 

CWJ

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2The waters:

Good idea
show me where dispensations are invented in the Bible.
Hi there,

* I am glad that you also see the value of applying this principle, '2Thewaters.'

* As to your question: - changing circumstances indicate changes in dispensation.

* The word, 'Dispensation', (meaning 'administration' or 'stewardship') is found in:-

'For if I do this thing willingly, I have a reward:
but if against my will,
a dispensation of the gospel is committed unto me.'

(1Cor. 9:17)

'That in the dispensation of the fulness of times
He might gather together in one all things in Christ,
both which are in heaven,
and which are on earth; even in Him:'

(Eph.1:10)

'If ye have heard
of the dispensation of the grace of God
which is given me to you-ward:'

(Eph.3:2)

'Whereof I am made a minister,
according to the dispensation of God
which is given to me for you,
to fulfil the word of God;'

(Col.1:25)

In Christ Jesus
Chris
 
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2Thewaters

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And falsepastors know it.
they fully know it well.
but it is their INCOME
if they told their churches the truth, they would be fired, for the devil set up the churches that the pastors are hired by the congregation...
so they will never give the real truth
they get fired and over 200 years the pastors became jsut what God said they would become

2 Tim 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
2 Tim 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

the false pastors are easily spotted

you give them bible truth

and they dont respond, they just put up the false disporved twisted post over and over again

they dont care
and they ignore it and immediately put up fancy cut and paste twisted scriptures at the end of every thread so that the last post always gives the big lie again

and they always put up the same fancy few verses from romans that were twisted each time to overwhem the conversation

they dont want to now the truth
they already now it
they want to keep their congragations happy

the day is coming says God that the pastors

Jer 2:8 The priests said not, Where is the LORD? and they that handle the law knew me not: the pastors also transgressed against me, and the prophets prophesied by Baal, and walked after ... profit.


Jer 2:9 Wherefore I will yet plead with you, saith the LORD, and with your children's children will I plead.

so I come and plead, there are some children that will actually read their Bibles


Mat 13:19 When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side.
Mat 13:20 But he that received the seed into stony places, the same is he that heareth the word, and anon with joy receiveth it;
Mat 13:21 Yet hath he not root in himself, but dureth for a while: for when tribulation or persecution ariseth because of the word, by and by he is offended.
Mat 13:22 He also that received seed among the thorns is he that heareth the word; and the care of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, choke the word, and he becometh unfruitful.
Mat 13:23 But he that received seed into the good ground is he that heareth the word, and understandeth it; which also beareth fruit, and bringeth forth, some an hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty.

those that bear fruit are the ones that

read
hear
and DO the word

immediately the enemy comes every tie you say DO the word and will call you names and start an argument

to try and catch away the only truth that could save you

1 John 1:6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:


1 John 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.
Rev 2:5 Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.

you say DO and the enemy comes immediately

that is the only way to be sanctifie
hear pray accept and do
all the word of God.
 

CWJ

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'Ye shall diligently keep
the commandments of the LORD your God,
and His testimonies,
and His statutes,
which He hath commanded thee.'

(Deu 6:17)

Hello '2Thewaters',

Moses wrote a copy of the law in a book, which was placed in the side of the ark (Deut.31:24-26). The same laws were also written by God on stone tablets and placed in the ark at God's instruction. (Deut.10:1-2)

The LAW given by God through Moses to the children of Israel, was made up of commandments (judgments), statutes and testimonies.

In Christ Jesus
Chris









 
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And falsepastors know it.
they fully know it well.
but it is their INCOME
if they told their churches the truth, they would be fired, for the devil set up the churches that the pastors are hired by the congregation...
so they will never give the real truth
they get fired and over 200 years the pastors became jsut what God said they would become

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.......................garbage in, garbage out........sigh............

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