How Difficult Is It NOT To Sin ?

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J-Kay-2

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Deadtosin said:
"don't forge to read your Bible. Starting in the book of
John.: -J-K-2

Thanks I've read it :) I have recently started back at Genesis, going through it in it's entirety. Reading the bible is the last thing I do every night before going to sleep, it's my favorite time of the day. Thanks sister! :)
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Oh the Mother in me keeps showing up doesn't she ? I smile.... you are a blessing ~
 
Sjwho2

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Impossible given that everyone is a born sinner.

Therefore sin is not based upon action, for what action could one commit from the womb?
 
resurrection33

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J-Kay-2 said:
Romans 7:14-25

New International Version (NIV)

[SUP]14 [/SUP]We know that the law is spiritual; but I am unspiritual, sold as a slave to sin. [SUP]15 [/SUP]I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. [SUP]16 [/SUP]And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. [SUP]17 [/SUP]As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. [SUP]18 [/SUP]For I know that good itself does not dwell in me, that is, in my sinful nature.[SUP][a][/SUP] For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. [SUP]19 [/SUP]For I do not do the good I want to do, but the evil I do not want to do—this I keep on doing. [SUP]20 [/SUP]Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it.
[SUP]21 [/SUP]So I find this law at work: Although I want to do good, evil is right there with me. [SUP]22 [/SUP]For in my inner being I delight in God’s law; [SUP]23 [/SUP]but I see another law at work in me, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within me. [SUP]24 [/SUP]What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body that is subject to death? [SUP]25 [/SUP]Thanks be to God, who delivers me through Jesus Christ our Lord!
So then, I myself in my mind am a slave to God’s law, but in my sinful nature[SUP][b][/SUP] a slave to the law of sin.

Do you struggle NOT to sin ? Even great men of God had struggles. The flesh wars against the spirit.
WE must stay close to the Lord Jesus Christ and stay faithful to Gods Word. He will make a way out of
Sin and bring us back .... Remember the Prodigal ?
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It can be awfully difficult not to sin, sometimes, it seems to me. I always regret sinning afterwards, though. The Lord always leads me back to repentance, when I do sin.
 
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J-Kay-2

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resurrection33 said:
It can be awfully difficult not to sin, sometimes, it seems to me. I always regret sinning afterwards, though. The Lord always leads me back to repentance, when I do sin.
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Same here ...my friend...same here....
 
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resurrection33 said:
It can be awfully difficult not to sin, sometimes, it seems to me. I always regret sinning afterwards, though. The Lord always leads me back to repentance, when I do sin.
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God never said you wouldn't have trouble, only that He would go thru that trouble with you.

When temptation assails you find a place, if nowhere but in your mind, and have a little talk with Jesus. I am telling truth - it works.
 
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2Thewaters

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It is the easiest thing in the world to never sin or break the law again
 
Deadtosin

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Sjwho2 said:
Impossible given that everyone is a born sinner.

Therefore sin is not based upon action, for what action could one commit from the womb?
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Why would you dispute understandings of sin and scripture if you do not believe in the bible?
 
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J-Kay-2

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phil112 said:
God never said you wouldn't have trouble, only that He would go thru that trouble with you.

When temptation assails you find a place, if nowhere but in your mind, and have a little talk with Jesus. I am telling truth - it works.
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When past thoughts come to my mind, I have learned to say, "Jesus would you
Please go to the door of my mind ?" And yes it does work. Believe me, if anyone
knows.... it is me... Praise His Holy Name..... Thank You Lord.
 
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2Thewaters

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It is much much harder to sin
takes a lot of work to sin
lot of stress
lot of worry
'lot of activity to sin

stay at home and read Bible not a sin

Getting up two am dressing in black and tagging buildings with paint takes a lot of work

reading Bible easier

Also frineds that are crooks, its easier to tell them to go away and dont call you no more
rather than getting high and wrecking cars and stuff

lot easier to be good
 
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J-Kay-2

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2Thewaters said:
It is the easiest thing in the world to never sin or break the law again
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Wow, it must be nice to be perfect. I am not that perfect. You are blessed for sure.
 
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Deadtosin said:
Why would you dispute understandings of sin and scripture if you do not believe in the bible?
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It's not a dispute unless you have something to say to the contrary.(do you?)

I feel that the bible as it be, is not understood by many in the simple literary sense. While I'd like to further my own study, I am noticing that people tend to put too much weight on their own interpretations of the bible.
 
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Sjwho2 said:
I feel that the bible as it be, is not understood by many in the simple literary sense. While I'd like to further my own study, I am noticing that people tend to put too much weight on their own interpretations of the bible.
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I think that I agree with you on this statement more than any other statement that you have made (that I have read). People tend to go to the bible to find what they believe, instead of what it says. I think, to some degree, this is a difficult thing to overcome. But the problem seems to be that many do not even try to read the bible for what it says. I am not trying to attack anyone in particular. For years I believed what was taught at my congregation, not really reading the bible for myself. Now that I have (and continue to), I no longer agree with several things that my congregation teaches. I used to believe that the "church" that I attended was the "right" one and all others were inadequate (not the "original" church) - But this way of thinking is flawed.
 
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Timeline said:
I think that I agree with you on this statement more than any other statement that you have made (that I have read). People tend to go to the bible to find what they believe, instead of what it says. I think, to some degree, this is a difficult thing to overcome. But the problem seems to be that many do not even try to read the bible for what it says. I am not trying to attack anyone in particular. For years I believed what was taught at my congregation, not really reading the bible for myself. Now that I have (and continue to), I no longer agree with several things that my congregation teaches. I used to believe that the "church" that I attended was the "right" one and all others were inadequate (not the "original" church) - But this way of thinking is flawed.
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Yes a lot of the problems within modern christianity arise from the belief upon another's words, not the Bible or the source.

Personal Opinion:
However I also hold the view that Christianity holds too many views that are not logically explained and stated as "matter of fact" without a real explanation.

This also leads into conflict among the community, as interpretation and the appeal-to-authority fallacy becomes overused.
 
maxwel

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Sjwho2 said:
It's not a dispute unless you have something to say to the contrary.(do you?)

I feel that the bible as it be, is not understood by many in the simple literary sense. While I'd like to further my own study, I am noticing that people tend to put too much weight on their own interpretations of the bible.
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And in YOUR interpretation of the bible, and philosophy...
does such a thing as sin even exist?

Do you believe there is absolute right and wrong?
 
Sjwho2

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maxwel said:
And in YOUR interpretation of the bible, and philosophy...
does such a thing as sin even exist?

Do you believe there is absolute right and wrong?
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By cultural definition sin would be immoral acts, so yes.

Absolute right and wrong? You mean moral absolutionism?
Moral absolutism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

or Universal Value?
Universal value - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


I believe in Universal Value, yes, but not moral absolution.

Also moral relativism, I generally consider the best tool.
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Maxwel, please take this lesson.

If someone does not believe in your religion they do not (by default) deny the belief structure of said religion. I do not deny the existence of Jesus, God, and the holy Spirit according to the bible, I do not deny the existence of sin.


I however question them, and have my doubts upon said logic being solid.
 
Billyd

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When I get to the point that I think that I have not sinned, God brings me back to 1 John1:8-10. It is easy to sin. Take a look at "The Sermon on the Mount" in Matthew 5-7. The wonderful thing is, that it is just as easy to confess our sin. God is faithful and he will forgive us.
 
Sjwho2

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It is also worth noting that you must define what is considered a sin.
 
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2Thewaters

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It doesnt matter what you define sin as
it doesnt even matter

for
sin is the transgression of the law ten commandments

thats what God defines it as.
 
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2Thewaters

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for sin is the transgression of the law.

And ye know that JESUS was manifested
to take away our LAWBREAKING BEHAVIOR;
and in him is no MORE LAWBREAKING.
Whosoever LIVES BY GODS RULES
in him BREAKS NOT THE COMMANDMENTS:

whosoever BREAKS OR DOESNT KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS
hath not seen JESUS, neither knows JESUS.


Little children, let no man deceive you:
he that KEEPS THE LAW is righteous (RIGHT DOING),
even as JESUS is RIGHT DOING.

He that BREAKS ANY COMMANDMENT is of the devil;
for the devil BREAKS EVERY COMMANDMENT from the beginning.
For this purpose the Son of God was CAME TO EARTH IN HUMAN FLESH,

that he might destroy the TEN COMMANDMENT IGNORING of the devil.

Whosoever is born (Spiritually Inspired) of God
doth not BREAK COMMANDMENTS and sin;

for his seed (THE WORD OF GOD)
remaineth in him:
and he cannot BREAK THE TEN COMMANDMENTS,

because he is born (INSPIRED BY) God.

In this the children of God are MADE APPARENT,

and the children of the devil OBVIOUS:

whosoever doeth not KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS is not of God,
neither he that loveth not his brother.

1 John 3:4-10

Soooo simple!
 
Sjwho2

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2Thewaters said:
It doesnt matter what you define sin as
it doesnt even matter

for
sin is the transgression of the law ten commandments

thats what God defines it as.
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You mean the 613?
 
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