| ||||||||||||
|
|
|
| Bible Discussion Forum Ask (or answer) Bible questions here. Join or start a Bible discussion now! |
![]() |
|
|
LinkBack | Thread Tools |
|
|||
|
How do we determine who is a Christian or is not a Christian? Should we even debate who is a Christian? Aren't we all God's children? Is Mormonism monotheistic or polytheistic? Who is the author of the "Book of Mormon"? Do history and archaeology authenticate the details of the Book of Mormon?
|
|
||||
|
Galatians 1:8 states "but even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed." From my understanding of the Mormons they believe that Jesus is the spirit brother of Satan and is one of some 2000 gods created by the great god Adam. They also believe that salvation of the cross is only partial and you must work really hard in order to complete your salvation. This totally destroys what grace is. An angel by the name of Moroni I think was his name supposedly showed Joseph Smith some golden plates which had their supplemental teachings written on them. These are things that I have heard about the Morman belief system. If what I heard is accurate then I would classify Mormanism as a cult rather than a Christian group because they preach a gospel at variance with what was orignally written. Paul says to consider such people accursed. I know this sounds harsh but I take the bible to be the inspired word of God and in my studies of the written word I have come to the conclusion that God says what He means and means what He says.
|
|
|||
|
in Brigham Young's "Journals of Discourses" Volume One, pages 50 - 56; he writes, "God was once as we are now, a man. Adam is our God, the only God with Whom we have to do. He came down from heaven, had relations with Mary and begat Jesus"
|
|
||||
|
I know that for many, including myself, I consider as a Christian anyone who accepts the Nicene Creed. I don't think the Mormons do accept that creed, so while I admire their dedication to family and community, I don't consider them Christians.
__________________
Without humility some angels became devils, and with humility some devilish people became angels. - Saint John el-Daragi http://www.geekcatholic.com |
|
||||
|
The Mormons have really gone out of their way to look Christian and almost evangelical on the surface. They'll do a lot of talk about trusting Jesus on the surface level. But once you dig deeper, that's when things start getting kooky.
I don't think Mormons are Christians. But if someone maybe visited or was preached the true Gospel by a mormon and truly believed, then went to a true Chrisitan church and didn't delve in to the depths of Mormonism, I wouldn't have a problem believing they are a Christian.
__________________
How To Dismantle A Futurist 1. Show the near/soon wording of Rev. 1 and 22. 2. Read Olivet discourse. Show temple destruction is expected in their life time. 3. Inform that destruction of temple in AD 70 is a BIG deal. 4. Point out the historical events that line up with Daniels weeks. 5. Use history from that time period and place. (These views are mine and not necessarily those of CC.) |
|
|||
|
Quote:
|
|
|||
|
What is the Nicene Creed? I've never heard of it.
|
|
||||
|
We believe in one God, the Father, the Almighty, of all that is, seen and unseen. We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father, God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, of one Being with the Father. Through him all things were made. For us and for our salvation he came down from heaven: by the power of the Holy Spirit he became incarnate from the Virgin Mary, and was made man. For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate; he suffered death and was buried. On the third day he rose again in accordance with the Scriptures; he ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father. He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead, and his kingdom will have no end. We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life, who proceeds from the Father [and the Son.] With the Father and the Son he is worshipped and glorified. He has spoken through the Prophets. We believe in one holy catholic and apostolic Church. We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins. We look for the resurrection of the dead,
and the life of the world to come. Amen.
__________________
Without humility some angels became devils, and with humility some devilish people became angels. - Saint John el-Daragi http://www.geekcatholic.com |
|
||||
|
If you actually do a study on the religion you will realize how twisted they are. Joeseph Smith, who is the author of the book of Mormon, changed his story a few times in which how the angel had shown him the golden tamblets. First the angel provided him with special glasses that translated the stones from reformed egyptian hyroglyphics (which don't exist) and than he said that the angel translated it for him. The book of mormon was also edited because in one part of it King Ben's name was used, yet historically he was already dead, so they just made up a new name. The Book of Mormon was also edited a ridiculous amount of times to fix Smith's terrible punctation and spelling. I think it is safe to agree as christians that they are not christians. That is only the tip of the iceberg btw.
__________________
I am a WHOSOEVER Ex-Porn Addict Ex-Masturbator Ex-Addict |
|
||||
|
Quote:
To know what Mormonism is really about, you have to dig deeper and look at their literature, what the leaders have said in the past. These leaders are supposed to be inspired, (according to them), therefore what they say is supposed to be their doctrine. It is far more radical than what is found in the book of Mormon. I think that even members of the church are unaware of many of the more egregiouos errors. For example: Brigham Young seemed to believe Joseph Smith was Jesus Christ: "...no man or woman in this dispensation will ever enter into the celestial kingdom of God without the consent of Joseph Smith." (Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 7, p. 289). I suspect that few current members have ever seen that quote. But we should not condemn them or turn our backs on them, but should try to make them aware of their errors and perhaps, with the help of God, convert them back to the truth. Jesus hasn't turned His back on us. Just an interesting aside. Mark Twain once said that if you remove all of the phrases "and it came to pass" in the book of Mormon, it could be reduced to a small pamphlet. |
|
||||
|
I tried ministering to some Mormons on here: http://www.mormon.org/mormonorg/eng/ they have a live chat thing and I talked to like 3 different people, and I talked to them about christianity.
__________________
I am a WHOSOEVER Ex-Porn Addict Ex-Masturbator Ex-Addict |
|
||||
|
Quote:
|
![]() |
| Bookmarks |
| Thread Tools | |
|
|
Similar Threads
|
||||
| Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
| Christian perspectives | thefightinglamb | Bible Discussion Forum | 9 | January 9th, 2010 01:20 PM |
| I'm a Christian... You're a Christian... (Frustrations with Dating Christians.) | seoulsearch | Christian Singles Forum | 30 | October 31st, 2009 04:52 PM |
| rock and roll is wicked | roaringkitten | Bible Discussion Forum | 151 | October 20th, 2009 10:50 PM |
| Eternal security a fundamental truth of the Christian faith | roaringkitten | Bible Discussion Forum | 62 | October 3rd, 2009 05:03 PM |
| Chinese Christian Scholar Expressed Progress and Hope in China's Political Climate | chinesechristian | Bible Discussion Forum | 0 | July 10th, 2009 11:57 PM |
![]() |
|
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.6 |
![]() |