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How do we determine who is a Christian or is not a Christian? Should we even debate who is a Christian? Aren't we all God's children? Is Mormonism monotheistic or polytheistic? Who is the author of the "Book of Mormon"? Do history and archaeology authenticate the details of the Book of Mormon?
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We know we are Christian if we have faith in God's only word, the Bible, and we do our best to obey it
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To determine if it is christian.. have a look at how a person gets salvation in the religion.. if they work for it.. have to go through heaps of rituals or rites.. that isn't christian salvation.

Also.. if Jesus doesn't rise from the dead in their teaching.. not christian

We are all images of God's creation.. but we aren't all going to heaven.. we don't all belong to His spiritual family- the Kingdom and Family of God.

As I recall the author of the book of mormon is Joseph Smith.. who is supposed to have been given revelation by an archangel.. Gabriel I think

The evidence in history for this is scant at best.. basically nadda..

Consider that - for Christians their are 1000s of copies of the gospels that we can draw from.. and they were all written quite close to the actual events they report.. for Mormonism.. the book wasn't written till around the 1800s.. and then I think 600 or so years after the events it reports..


Some good books for evidence- The Case for Christ.. The Case for Faith.. Evidence That Demands a Verdict.. Reasonable Faith.

thats my 2 cents
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Ask just one question. What think ye of Christ?
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we are justified by works, not by faith alone " james 2:24 remember the parable of the wise and foolish builders? foolish one heard God's word, but didn't do it. the wise one heard and obeyed
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Mormonism is polytheistic
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the author of the book of Mormon was someone named skinner, who wrote it as a fairytale , published in the 1700's; read : "the Mormon Papers" for proof; the Book of Mormonism is a plagerism
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what about the golden tablets? aaaaaaaaaaaaw!
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Galatians 1:8 states "but even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed." From my understanding of the Mormons they believe that Jesus is the spirit brother of Satan and is one of some 2000 gods created by the great god Adam. They also believe that salvation of the cross is only partial and you must work really hard in order to complete your salvation. This totally destroys what grace is. An angel by the name of Moroni I think was his name supposedly showed Joseph Smith some golden plates which had their supplemental teachings written on them. These are things that I have heard about the Morman belief system. If what I heard is accurate then I would classify Mormanism as a cult rather than a Christian group because they preach a gospel at variance with what was orignally written. Paul says to consider such people accursed. I know this sounds harsh but I take the bible to be the inspired word of God and in my studies of the written word I have come to the conclusion that God says what He means and means what He says.
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in Brigham Young's "Journals of Discourses" Volume One, pages 50 - 56; he writes, "God was once as we are now, a man. Adam is our God, the only God with Whom we have to do. He came down from heaven, had relations with Mary and begat Jesus"
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they are not christians but sick,twisted freaks according to the docrine they follow,study what they believe and you will agree.
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I know that for many, including myself, I consider as a Christian anyone who accepts the Nicene Creed. I don't think the Mormons do accept that creed, so while I admire their dedication to family and community, I don't consider them Christians.
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The Mormons have really gone out of their way to look Christian and almost evangelical on the surface. They'll do a lot of talk about trusting Jesus on the surface level. But once you dig deeper, that's when things start getting kooky.

I don't think Mormons are Christians. But if someone maybe visited or was preached the true Gospel by a mormon and truly believed, then went to a true Chrisitan church and didn't delve in to the depths of Mormonism, I wouldn't have a problem believing they are a Christian.
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How do we determine who is a Christian or is not a Christian? Should we even debate who is a Christian? Aren't we all God's children? Is Mormonism monotheistic or polytheistic? Who is the author of the "Book of Mormon"? Do history and archaeology authenticate the details of the Book of Mormon?
To determine that, I would say check out to make sure Jesus died on the cross to save us, everything else isn't that important. And that he is God.
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I know that for many, including myself, I consider as a Christian anyone who accepts the Nicene Creed. I don't think the Mormons do accept that creed, so while I admire their dedication to family and community, I don't consider them Christians.
What is the Nicene Creed? I've never heard of it.
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We believe in one God,
the Father, the Almighty,
of all that is, seen and unseen.

We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ,
the only Son of God,
eternally begotten of the Father,
God from God, Light from Light,
true God from true God,
begotten, not made,
of one Being with the Father.
Through him all things were made.
For us and for our salvation
he came down from heaven:
by the power of the Holy Spirit
he became incarnate from the Virgin Mary,
and was made man.
For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate;
he suffered death and was buried.
On the third day he rose again
in accordance with the Scriptures;
he ascended into heaven
and is seated at the right hand of the Father.
He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead,
and his kingdom will have no end.
We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life,
who proceeds from the Father [and the Son.]
With the Father and the Son he is worshipped and glorified.
He has spoken through the Prophets.
We believe in one holy catholic and apostolic Church.
We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins.
We look for the resurrection of the dead,
and the life of the world to come. Amen.
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If you actually do a study on the religion you will realize how twisted they are. Joeseph Smith, who is the author of the book of Mormon, changed his story a few times in which how the angel had shown him the golden tamblets. First the angel provided him with special glasses that translated the stones from reformed egyptian hyroglyphics (which don't exist) and than he said that the angel translated it for him. The book of mormon was also edited because in one part of it King Ben's name was used, yet historically he was already dead, so they just made up a new name. The Book of Mormon was also edited a ridiculous amount of times to fix Smith's terrible punctation and spelling. I think it is safe to agree as christians that they are not christians. That is only the tip of the iceberg btw.
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The Mormons have really gone out of their way to look Christian and almost evangelical on the surface. They'll do a lot of talk about trusting Jesus on the surface level. But once you dig deeper, that's when things start getting kooky.

I don't think Mormons are Christians. But if someone maybe visited or was preached the true Gospel by a mormon and truly believed, then went to a true Chrisitan church and didn't delve in to the depths of Mormonism, I wouldn't have a problem believing they are a Christian.

To know what Mormonism is really about, you have to dig deeper and look at their literature, what the leaders have said in the past. These leaders are supposed to be inspired, (according to them), therefore what they say is supposed to be their doctrine. It is far more radical than what is found in the book of Mormon. I think that even members of the church are unaware of many of the more egregiouos errors. For example:

Brigham Young seemed to believe Joseph Smith was Jesus Christ:
"...no man or woman in this dispensation will ever enter into the celestial kingdom of God without the consent of Joseph Smith." (Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 7, p. 289).

I suspect that few current members have ever seen that quote. But we should not condemn them or turn our backs on them, but should try to make them aware of their errors and perhaps, with the help of God, convert them back to the truth. Jesus hasn't turned His back on us.


Just an interesting aside. Mark Twain once said that if you remove all of the phrases "and it came to pass" in the book of Mormon, it could be reduced to a small pamphlet.
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I tried ministering to some Mormons on here: http://www.mormon.org/mormonorg/eng/ they have a live chat thing and I talked to like 3 different people, and I talked to them about christianity.
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I tried ministering to some Mormons on here: http://www.mormon.org/mormonorg/eng/ they have a live chat thing and I talked to like 3 different people, and I talked to them about christianity.
They are a hard nut to crack. This is because they are not taught to reason on their own. They are taught to obey with faith all things that the leaders tell them. Did you have any success?
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