Rightly Dividing the Word of Truth

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I don't think that he promoting "KJV only" by saying we need to rightly divide the word of Truth. We are to study by rightly dividing the word of truth - but I believe it is more than what he has said - we need to keep in mind when studying that what is said in scripture is "handpicked" by God and is exactly what he wanted to say- to whom he says it, where he says it, when he says it and how he says it.

rightly dividing is the Greek word orthotomounta. Orthos means 'perfectly right' or 'perfectly straight'. Temno means 'to cut'. So orthotomounta literally means 'a perfectly right cutting'.
 
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I don't think that he promoting "KJV only" by saying we need to rightly divide the word of Truth.
Have you read any of the other threads he has started on his KJV ONLY obsession and idolatry?
 
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Which one of your bible verses is right? They all say different thing.
The Nasb is accurate. I usually use the NLT for special emphasis, to show how a paraphrase bible can be closer in meaning than the KJV in certain areas, in which this is one of them. If you're not satisfied, I can quote some old commentaries.:)
 
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How many threads to promote the Cult of King James Only do you need?

It is ridiculous claim to state that the King James 1611 is Gods final and perfect version, which is only "proved" by cherry picking a couple of verses out of context and other flights of imagination and creative thinking.

What is often overlooked by most people reading these threads is that when cult members state "Word of GOd", they just mean the King James as they do not count any other Bible as "The word of God", this can lead to confusion as the word of God has lived on through thousands of years in many forms, its the message that is important, not if words are spelt Honour or honor, which is one of the issues the cult has with other versions. Ridiculous Isn't it.
Why did you bring up the KJV, I never mentioned it. Why don't you answer questions about the thread?
 
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I don't think that he promoting "KJV only" by saying we need to rightly divide the word of Truth. We are to study by rightly dividing the word of truth - but I believe it is more than what he has said - we need to keep in mind when studying that what is said in scripture is "handpicked" by God and is exactly what he wanted to say- to whom he says it, where he says it, when he says it and how he says it.

rightly dividing is the Greek word orthotomounta. Orthos means 'perfectly right' or 'perfectly straight'. Temno means 'to cut'. So orthotomounta literally means 'a perfectly right cutting'.
It means to divide lol. Everything in the bible is divided. Earthly spiritual.
 
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Why did you bring up the KJV, I never mentioned it. Why don't you answer questions about the thread?
I don't mean to speak for the person you addressed this to, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out where you are headed with this. The same place as every other thread you have started recently.

I'm curious. How did you come up with your user name?
 
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I don't think that he promoting "KJV only" by saying we need to rightly divide the word of Truth. We are to study by rightly dividing the word of truth - but I believe it is more than what he has said - we need to keep in mind when studying that what is said in scripture is "handpicked" by God and is exactly what he wanted to say- to whom he says it, where he says it, when he says it and how he says it.

rightly dividing is the Greek word orthotomounta. Orthos means 'perfectly right' or 'perfectly straight'. Temno means 'to cut'. So orthotomounta literally means 'a perfectly right cutting'.
It means to divide lol. Everything in the bible is divided. Earthly spiritual.
 
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It means to divide lol. Everything in the bible is divided. Earthly spiritual.
That's not all 'rightly dividing the word of truth' means - it entails much more than earthly/spiritual.
 
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Earthly temple:
Mat_21:12 And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves,

Spiritual temple:
Mat_26:61 And said, This fellow said, I am able to destroy the temple of God, and to build it in three days.

Can you see the difference between the two? One is a shadow of the other. Easy! :)
 
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Earthly temple:
Mat_21:12 And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves,

Spiritual temple:
Mat_26:61 And said, This fellow said, I am able to destroy the temple of God, and to build it in three days.

Can you see the difference between the two? One is a shadow of the other. Easy! :)
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You are right here again, there are some verses that are to be applied spiritually and some that have earthly meanings. However the comparison with the temple of course only applies to believers in Christ.

Reasoning in this is because in Ezekiel, he is given a vision of a third earthly temple that will be built.

Earthly temple:
Mat_21:12 And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves,

Spiritual temple:
Mat_26:61 And said, This fellow said, I am able to destroy the temple of God, and to build it in three days.

Can you see the difference between the two? One is a shadow of the other. Easy! :)
 
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You are right here again, there are some verses that are to be applied spiritually and some that have earthly meanings. However the comparison with the temple of course only applies to believers in Christ.

Reasoning in this is because in Ezekiel, he is given a vision of a third earthly temple that will be built.
I think Ezekiel's temple is a spiritual temple. Earthly temples are only shadows of the heavenly temple, the body of Christ. The body of Christ is under construction right now, there is no more need for shadow temples. But I respect your view.

I believe Ezekiel's temple describes the body of Christ. I would like to do a thread on that one day.
 
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For those of you who can't see the spiritual meaning of Luk_14:26, how do you reconcile this verse.
Are we supposed to hate our mother and father so we can follow Jesus?
Does the Greek word translated 'hate' have a different meaning?
Someone explain how you understand Luk_14:26.

Luk_14:26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.
 
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No it is a prophecy on a physical temple that is to be built. It even gives dimensions for the temple, the only difference in the dimensions given for the third temple compared to the first and second temple is the outer court on one side is missing in those dimensions in Ezekiel. But a blueprint was drawn up and the temple with those dimensions fits perfectly next to the dome of the rock ( hince outer court trampled by gentiles ).

Plus the temple has to be rebuilt in order for the anti-Christ to stand in it and proclaim himself god.

I think Ezekiel's temple is a spiritual temple. Earthly temples are only shadows of the heavenly temple, the body of Christ. The body of Christ is under construction right now, there is no more need for shadow temples. But I respect your view.

I believe Ezekiel's temple describes the body of Christ. I would like to do a thread on that one day.
 
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For those of you who can't see the spiritual meaning of Luk_14:26, how do you reconcile this verse.
Are we supposed to hate our mother and father so we can follow Jesus?
Does the Greek word translated 'hate' have a different meaning?
Someone explain how you understand Luk_14:26.

Luk_14:26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.
Only in the sense of loving Christ more than father, mother, wife, children, brethren, sisters, and our own life.

So are you talking about interpretation or rightly dividing the word of truth?
 
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No it is a prophecy on a physical temple that is to be built. It even gives dimensions for the temple, the only difference in the dimensions given for the third temple compared to the first and second temple is the outer court on one side is missing in those dimensions in Ezekiel. But a blueprint was drawn up and the temple with those dimensions fits perfectly next to the dome of the rock ( hince outer court trampled by gentiles ).

Plus the temple has to be rebuilt in order for the anti-Christ to stand in it and proclaim himself god.
Sorry we off on those issues Ken, but I respect your views. Think about this though, the outer court has been trampled by Gentiles for the last 2000 years and still is today.
 
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Only in the sense of loving Christ more than father, mother, wife, children, brethren, sisters, and our own life.

So are you talking about interpretation or rightly dividing the word of truth?
No I'm talking about rightly dividing. Reading a verse according to it's context, spiritual or physical. I like the interpretation that you gave, but it's not what the verse said. Every word in the bible is there for a reason. You believe in the symbology of the earthly lamb representing Christ, why would you think that same symbology doesn't apply to fathers, mothers etc? Surely you don't think the lamb is the only symbology used in the bible.

Agar is everyone's spiritual mother until salvation, after salvation our mother is heavenly Jerusalem.

Gal_4:25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.
 
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The problem with that is that the temple does not exist, not does the outer court right now so it can't be trampled.

It is hard to realize how some one could not believe a third temple will be built.

Ezekiel prophecy of a third temple
Prophecy of the anti-Christ standing in the temple claiming to be god
Blueprint for the third temple has been drawn up and presented for approval
All the stuff that goes into the temple has been made, and is waiting for it to be built
Peace agreement talks stronger then ever, the only hold up is Palestine supports hamas ( a terrorist group )

If Palestine would separate from hamas, Israel said they would sign the agreement. The temple being built next to the dome of the rock would be a part of that peace agreement.

Sorry we off on those issues Ken, but I respect your views. Think about this though, the outer court has been trampled by Gentiles for the last 2000 years and still is today.