No trust in Creation...no trust in Genesis....no trust in Scriptures...

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Is creation a "salvation issue"

  • Yes it's vital to mans need for salvation

    Votes: 14 53.8%
  • No creation is unconnected to salvation

    Votes: 10 38.5%
  • Never considered any connection

    Votes: 2 7.7%

  • Total voters
    26
  • Poll closed .
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Pottyone

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Recently I have been doing some street work with young folks and a constant theme with them, is that they are bombarded in school, college and the media in general ( see EVERY NATURAL HISTORY PROGRAM ON THE TV) with the theory that the world evolved. This leads them then to diss any idea of a creation based history of the world and therefore a disbelief in the book of Genesis as the truth of God's word. Once you compromise on Genesis, you compromise on the basic principles of our faith....sin entering the world as a result of man's disobedience, death as a result of sin, mans separation from God and the need for salvation, Satan as a reality, marriage between a man and a women etc.
In My opinion a rejection of creation is possibly Satan's greatest achievement and one which he has successfully propagated throughout history......
Many Christians state that A belief in Creation is not something to get too "worked up about" as it is not really a "salvation matter"......I beg to differ. It is possibly the biggest stumbling block to the non christians ability to see their need for Salvation ......
evolution is Satanic in origin and must be tackled everywhere it is encountered!!
 
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John_S

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#2
Genesis 2:2 hasn't happened yet, and won't happen until Jesus Christ returns to end the Tribulation and begin the Millenium.
In other words, we are STILL in the 6th Day of Creation, which has lasted for MANY millions of years.
To believe that the universe is ONLY 6,000 years old, is ignorant nonsense.
God created the universe and He can take as long as He likes to make it evolve.

BTW - Genesis 2:2 states - ... and on the 7th Day, God rested.
 
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Recently I have been doing some street work with young folks and a constant theme with them, is that they are bombarded in school, college and the media in general ( see EVERY NATURAL HISTORY PROGRAM ON THE TV) with the theory that the world evolved. This leads them then to diss any idea of a creation based history of the world and therefore a disbelief in the book of Genesis as the truth of God's word. Once you compromise on Genesis, you compromise on the basic principles of our faith....sin entering the world as a result of man's disobedience, death as a result of sin, mans separation from God and the need for salvation, Satan as a reality, marriage between a man and a women etc.
In My opinion a rejection of creation is possibly Satan's greatest achievement and one which he has successfully propagated throughout history......
Many Christians state that A belief in Creation is not something to get too "worked up about" as it is not really a "salvation matter"......I beg to differ. It is possibly the biggest stumbling block to the non christians ability to see their need for Salvation ......
evolution is Satanic in origin and must be tackled everywhere it is encountered!!
I tend to agree, since it's a tool the devil seems to be wearing out.
 
Aug 15, 2009
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Genesis 2:2 hasn't happened yet, and won't happen until Jesus Christ returns to end the Tribulation and begin the Millenium.
In other words, we are STILL in the 6th Day of Creation, which has lasted for MANY millions of years.
To believe that the universe is ONLY 6,000 years old, is ignorant nonsense.
God created the universe and He can take as long as He likes to make it evolve.

BTW - Genesis 2:2 states - ... and on the 7th Day, God rested.
Uuuummm.... WHAT?!? "Rested", is past tense. This isn't a prophetic verse.
 
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2Thewaters

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#5
evolution is Satanic in origin and must be tackled everywhere it is encountered!!

Poor school training in math and english and arythmetic and science is the cause of believe in the religion of evolution

it is impossible for life to form itself

each cell has 13000 protien molecules some as large as a million daltons which have to be creaated in the same microsecond or the cell wall will impled

this is HARDER to create one cell than to simultaneoulsly create the entire internet and all computers in the world with one lightning strike

Every person will choose

god is good, he gave them a long healthy life even though they hated him but soon it will be over

those who didnt want God will die and never be heard from again

those who love god will live forever

totally fair.
 
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2Thewaters

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#6
Believing in evolution is total doubt and unbelief in the bible and god and those people even though they call themselves christian, dont havee the faith needed to make it into heaven.
 
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kennethcadwell

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#7
The thing is what type of evolution are you talking about ? The evolution from one species family to another species family is the work of satan to twist and confuse the truth. Now when you talk about the same species evolving either to cope with the change in environment, or like the different classes of dogs evolving from the wolf, which would be same family group, then that type of evolution does exist.

There is no true evidence to support species to species evolution like man from ape. Even Darwin said before he died that there is no true physical evidence to support this theory.
 
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Pottyone

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#9
Wow....that is an interpretation of scripture that I have never heard before. Why do you think that a " young earth is "ignorant nonsense". Surely not based on carbon and radioisotopic dating etc. these dating techniques have been shown to unreliable and scientifically flawed. Taking into account the effects of a global flood it is very possible to see the supposed effects of an "old earth" exhibited.
layers of sedimentary rock, compression of organic matter under huge pressure to produce coal and oil deposits, fossilisation seen across layers of sedimentary deposits, sudden extinction of whole sections of animal life, sea life fossilised high up in mountainous regions etc. where is the ignorant nonsense?
 
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Anyone who professes faith in Jesus should oppose the satanic belief in evolution.
 
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Pottyone

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#11
Well put 2Thewaters.
 
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kennethcadwell

Guest
#13
My point was that most who believe in evolution go by Darwin's theory of evolving from one species to another in which he himself stated before he died there is no physical evidence to support his theory.

There has been plenty of evidence supporting evolution based on cold weather species evolving to a warmer climate, or like I said before the different types of dogs we have now days that evolved from the wolf class.
 

crossnote

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It's possible to be saved without awareness of the creation account.
It does take awareness of one's sin and belief in God's Son's sacrifice for those sins.
If after salvation one persists in denying the creation account then their salvation Is in question. IMHO
 
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Why shouldn't the concept of theistic evolution apply as a way to reconcile well-founded science with religious material? I don't know of any explicit scriptural prohibitions concerning evolution if Genesis is taken allegorically as opposed to literally. Inconsistencies in terms of the appropriate interpretation of a given biblical event can be resolved simply by citing discernment.
 
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2Thewaters

Guest
#16
and the guy who made these videos believes in evolution
it just proves insanity and hypnosis, for you cant create these proteins randomly

the enemy has control of the evolutionists minds and they are hypnotized.

For God created all things and not we ourselves.
 
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2Thewaters

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#17
Why shouldn't the concept of theistic evolution apply as a way to reconcile well-founded science with religious material? I don't know of any explicit scriptural prohibitions concerning evolution if Genesis is taken allegorically as opposed to literally. Inconsistencies in terms of the appropriate interpretation of a given biblical event can be resolved simply by citing discernment.
because it is false, it cant happen and is impossible

life cannot be created randomly
and God will not say he created things one way and then lie and do it another God cannot lie
evolution is satanic thats all there is to it.

see, that would go against the bible which is Gods true word.

cells cannot create one molecule much less 13000 all at the same time

but long years of public school has damaged childrens ability to think logically

they call evolution a theory
it is not
theories have scientific basis
science has to be reproducible in the lab
evolution has not been reproduced in the lab in any part so it is not a theory

each year trillions of animals replicate according to their kind and never a one missing link has been found that reproduced a different kind
so
scientifically creation is right and evolution is wrong

bottom line
people dont want God
so they wont get him
their lif=ves will be short and over.
 
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Pottyone

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#18
I meant inter special evolution Kenneth, the other is simply INTRASPECIAL adaptation from the existing gene pool. No additional genetic information is possible just a rearrangement of he existing DNA or even a loss of information.
 
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2Thewaters

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#19
the complexity is to great
no changes can occur

I should say no changes HAVE EVER OCCURED


there is no missing link over quadrillions and trillions of reproductions

scientifically evolution is disproven

beside

God says it cant happen

its all about faith and belief in God

He created everything and he said they can only produce according to species

so thats it

prove it wrong
you cant
no one has
finished
 
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2Thewaters

Guest
#20
you believe god
or you are unbeliever
thats basically it.