How to lead someone to the Lord - Paul Washer

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Spokenpassage

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BradC

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That is a beautiful testimony of the grace of God working in the heart of a man who is lost and fearful. However, it does not always have to come to that or to some crisis. Faith is not emotional. At Pentecost there were thousands who believed by faith, they asked Peter what they must do to be saved and he told them what to do (Acts 2:37,38). Faith is believing in the message that is heard. Asking someone to pray by faith and receive Christ is not sin. When you give the gospel and people hear it, we have to trust that the seed has been sown in the heart and that is the time of salvation. The soil of the heart must be fertile and that is what the plan of God does in the heart of the sinner. You give the gospel to every creature and put it before them. You trust the Holy Spirit to convict their heart with that gospel and to overcome their unbelief. Having them pray is a step of faith on their part in response to conviction in their heart.

It is not some evangelical tool to get people saved as some of you think it is. It is all faith in response to the gospel to convert the sinner from the error of their way. The person who asks them, 'Would you like to pray at this time to accept Christ because you believe the message', is that evil or an unjustified expectation from God? Is it wrong for any evangelical Christian to have sinners communicate with God through a prayer of faith? I think that is what we do because of the love of God. Sinners (and we were all lost in sin) are to call upon the Lord for salvation and confess with their mouth, even if that means doing so through prayer.

Rom 10:9-14
9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
 
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LOL ....PAUL WASHER! I would really enjoy the company of this guy and shortly after WASHER chilled with me I would suggest a name change to PAUL GUY. Some preacher GUY I know found his hands to be the dirty ones because I actually had him clean a real house, the one he resides in.
 

homwardbound

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I remember a person, that was told "God just loved him" And everything changed around him. He had heard the messdage all his life born and raised in it, told this told that, and just couldn't conform to their way of saying do it, yet love remained in him regardless
Was told those three true words, just as he is, and watched him change, and today everyday is changing into the amazing love of 1 cor 13:4-7, that God has installed into him

And I now of another one that was a PK kid, Preachers kid, gone wayward, and was not known as being grown up as a PK kid
He was told, John, did you know God was in Christ reconciling the whole world unto himself, not counting any of your sins against you?
Then it was said after a minute or two to him, how much more do you think you will be saved by his life?

This man was noticeable in the change of love that took place in him afterwards, God always knows what God is doing in what to say to who, when and where

Maybe we need to be available to be used, like a water glass is? No ? when being used just does its job to be used
Are we ready for God to do this through us? The self being out of the way, and just say as led and do as led as Christ did?
 

Agricola

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There is no set formula to bring people to Christ. A missionary in Sudan told an account where a Muslim gave his life to CHrist after simply being told JEsus loved him and wanted to have a relationship with him. I know of parents of a boy who were not believers but upon seeing thier son instantly healed from a knee injury after CHristians prayed over him, they gave life over to Jesus.
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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That is a beautiful testimony of the grace of God working in the heart of a man who is lost and fearful. However, it does not always have to come to that or to some crisis. Faith is not emotional. At Pentecost there were thousands who believed by faith, they asked Peter what they must do to be saved and he told them what to do (Acts 2:37,38). Faith is believing in the message that is heard. Asking someone to pray by faith and receive Christ is not sin. When you give the gospel and people hear it, we have to trust that the seed has been sown in the heart and that is the time of salvation. The soil of the heart must be fertile and that is what the plan of God does in the heart of the sinner. You give the gospel to every creature and put it before them. You trust the Holy Spirit to convict their heart with that gospel and to overcome their unbelief. Having them pray is a step of faith on their part in response to conviction in their heart.

It is not some evangelical tool to get people saved as some of you think it is. It is all faith in response to the gospel to convert the sinner from the error of their way. The person who asks them, 'Would you like to pray at this time to accept Christ because you believe the message', is that evil or an unjustified expectation from God? Is it wrong for any evangelical Christian to have sinners communicate with God through a prayer of faith? I think that is what we do because of the love of God. Sinners (and we were all lost in sin) are to call upon the Lord for salvation and confess with their mouth, even if that means doing so through prayer.

Rom 10:9-14
9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
i agree...however 'lordship salvation' preachers like washer tend to falsely caricature the 'romans road' and 'sinner's prayer' and 'altar call' and so on as discouraging commitment...

also washer has strong tendencies towards emotionalism...including in his views on authentic conversion...so 'freakout repentance' and 'crisis conversion' are a big part of his version of evangelism...and he has been known to judge a person's sincerity by how much weeping they do...
 
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Kerry

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You can't. It must be the Holy Spirit. We just speak the word and the Holy Spirit does the rest. It is not by might nor by power but by my spirit saith the Lord.
 

homwardbound

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You can't. It must be the Holy Spirit. We just speak the word and the Holy Spirit does the rest. It is not by might nor by power but by my spirit saith the Lord.
Since it is by God's Spirit of truth, then it is not me that speaks the words is it? If someone becomes saved by me, you or anyone, was it by me, you or anyone other than the Holy Spirit speaking through you as in the day of Pentecost.
Whom did the saving that day? The Disciples or God through the disciples?
So anyone Brother can just speak the word, anyone, and nothing, nothing, nothing, until as you said here, The Holy Spirit does the rest, I say how about the Holy Spirit does it all through us?
 

homwardbound

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i agree...however 'lordship salvation' preachers like washer tend to falsely caricature the 'romans road' and 'sinner's prayer' and 'altar call' and so on as discouraging commitment...

also washer has strong tendencies towards emotionalism...including in his views on authentic conversion...so 'freakout repentance' and 'crisis conversion' are a big part of his version of evangelism...and he has been known to judge a person's sincerity by how much weeping they do...
much self works focus here in this world, thanking God for God knows who is who, in the midst of it all. And there is where I see to put my trust in only. We all learn from birth on to be good actors to get rewards here and now do we not?
Motive key to true salvation, a contrite heart to God as King David came to see and understand and then respond to the love of God to all, you think. I think?
 
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I looked up the "HeartCryMissionary.com" shown in the video and found the following:

HeartCry Missionary Society > Doctrinal Statement

From the above link:

ELECTION. Election is God's eternal choice of some persons unto everlasting life – not because of foreseen merit in them, but of His mere mercy in Christ – in consequence of which choice they are called, justified, and glorified.

This is nothing more than Calvinism that undermines the purpose of the great commission How can you lead one to the Lord if he was not supposedly pre-chosen by God.

More from the link:

PROVIDENCE. God, from eternity, decrees or permits all things that come to pass and perpetually upholds, directs, and governs all creatures and all events; yet not in any way as to be the author or approver of sin, nor to destroy the free will and responsibility of intelligent creatures.

If God decreed, directs all things, then He is responsible and is the author of sin. You can't have it both ways.

More from the link:

REGENERATION. Regeneration is a change of heart wrought by the Holy Spirit, who makes alive those who are dead in trespasses and sins, enlightening their minds spiritually and savingly to understand the Word of God and renewing their whole nature, so that they love and practice holiness. It is a work of God’s free and special grace alone.

So the "unregenerate" and lost are so due to the Holy Spirit's fault and failure to regenerate them. This takes responsibility away from man and puts it all on the Holy Spirit.

Essentially a Calvinistic website where bible truth cannot be found.