I also am hearing it "rooted" or "spiritualized" when been compared to the issues Jesus told a Samaritan woman in:
Joh4:16 Jesus told her, "Go to yourhusband,and bring him here."
Joh4:17 The woman replied, "I don't have a husband." Jesus toldher, "You're right when you say that you don't have a husband.
Joh4:18You'vehad five husbands,and theman you have now isn't your husband.You've told the truth."
I wish I knew if this is a “local”teaching I´m hearing solely in Latin America.
If you want to share, I hope it be heard.
Thanks!
1. Yes, there are five ministries, not four, three, two, or one. The pastor and the teacher are actually very distinct and different though a pastor can function as a teacher and vice versa, etc. There can be mixing among the gifts. I found that every fragrance known to man (at least the good smelling ones) fits under one of only four scent categories: Spring (flowery, soft,
feminine), Summer (warm, sensual, musks, usually more
masculine), Autumn (spicy, leathery, woodsy,
old money), and Winter (crisp, refreshing, business-like,
independent). However, one fragrance (like a cologne or perfume) can be a mix of two or more different seasonal scents. While there are five different ministries in Eph. 4:11, they can mix together, making it hard to differentiate them. 1Cor. 12:28 lumps the five together and mentions several others, but Eph. 4:11 distinguishes the five overall gifts under which categories every other gift of ministry falls (such as bishop, deacon, elder, etc.).
2. When you read the Bible, the fastest way to understand pretty much all of it is to
simplify. Jesus said that God hides truth from the wise (i.e. those who think they are smart) and reveals it to babes and that unless one comes to Him as a little child, He cannot experience the Kingdom (though he may experience lots of head knowledge from the Bible). Let us simplify: five-fold ministry. Five is the number of Grace, but there is something more important about the number five. When the Pharisees accused Jesus of ministering by the power of satan, Jesus told them in essence,
"We all know that satan cannot fight against himself, but I am fighting against demons and winning. If I fight against demons and win, then no doubt, you yourselves know that I triumph by the power of God." In that instance, He said,
"If I, by the finger of God, cast out demons, no doubt, the Kingdom of God has come upon you." While we don't all know that God's
Finger represents God's power (the Egyptian sorcerers opposing Moses called his superior power
"the finger of God"), we do all know that God's
Hand represents God's power. God created us with five fingers in His Image. No one cuts off a finger or two and says, "I don't need five fingers." You can survive with no fingers; but five fingers are perfectly fitted for us. We can cut off one or more of the five ministries of Eph. 4:11; but it doesn't do us any good.
3. Some people receive revelation and share it ahead of time. This is often to brag and say, "I know things others don't know." God does give 'new revelation'; but it isn't new Scripture; it is new light or understanding to explain what is already written. Often, people can't receive new revelation until. There's an until. Jesus left and said that the Holy Spirit would come and explain to the disciples what they couldn't receive at that time. Some, not all, of these 'new revelations' are factual; they are just delivered
prematurely. Each one of us has a responsibility to rightly divide the Word and test the spirits. It isn't right to throw something out because it has been misused or trash something because it's been mishandled.