Are these sins?

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troubledgirl

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Masturbation without watching porn and without thinking about anyone else than just yourself and your own body
Gambling and lottery
Worrying
Anxiety
Depression
Fearing
Lying in emergency (for example, if a murderer is looking for your friend, you have to save your friends life by lying to the murderer, and also if someone is about to bully you, then you have to lie so they don't bully you)

Are these things sins?
 
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We aren't your governor or tutors. That is between you and God.
 
crossnote

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troubledgirl said:
Masturbation without watching porn and without thinking about anyone else than just yourself and your own body
Gambling and lottery
Worrying
Anxiety
Depression
Fearing
Lying in emergency (for example, if a murderer is looking for your friend, you have to save your friends life by lying to the murderer, and also if someone is about to bully you, then you have to lie so they don't bully you)

Are these things sins?
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Since they exhibit a lack of trust in God...yes. Although the first one is a misuse of what God has designed sex to be.
 
crossnote

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Since they exhibit a lack of trust in God...yes. Although the first one is a misuse of what God has designed sex to be.
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Just seen that last scenario, lying to a murderer. Lying is a sin but a lesser sin than murder. So yes, I would lie to a murderer if it meant saving an innocent life.
 
troubledgirl

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Since they exhibit a lack of trust in God...yes. Although the first one is a misuse of what God has designed sex to be.
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But what if you are single and there is no way to handle sexual urges? And why is it not okay to think about yourself only during masturbation when it's not really possible to self-lust?
 
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Worry and a number of others listed are mentioned in the Bible. As a previous poster stated, most the list seems to relate to trust in God. As a result, I'd tend to think worry and most of the list can be looked at as not being very profitable uses of our time, at the very least, and in some cases they can most certainly be considered sin.
 
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Masturbation without watching porn and without thinking about anyone else than just yourself and your own body NO, just don't lust after a married person, they belong to another. (Matthew 5:27-28)
Gambling and lottery NO, not if its controlled and done responsibly
Worrying NO
Anxiety NO
Depression NO
Fearing NO
Lying in emergency (for example, if a murderer is looking for your friend, you have to save your friends life by lying to the murderer, and also if someone is about to bully you, then you have to lie so they don't bully you) NO, you may not need to lie, but its not always necessary to offer someone the truth if they have bad intentions and the truth is detrimental to others or yourself.

Are these things sins? NO, but just my opinion
 
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troubledgirl said:
Masturbation without watching porn and without thinking about anyone else than just yourself and your own body
Gambling and lottery
Worrying
Anxiety
Depression
Fearing
Lying in emergency (for example, if a murderer is looking for your friend, you have to save your friends life by lying to the murderer, and also if someone is about to bully you, then you have to lie so they don't bully you)

Are these things sins?
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Masturbation is not what it was designed for. Self Adultery.
Gambling is wasting the money you could have otherwise used for the work of God. where your treasure is their your heart is also.
worrying shows lack of faith in Gods promises. Do not worry for your heavenly Father knows the things you need.
Anxiety and fearing are in the same boat, there is not fear in perfect love. For he has not given us a spirit of fear.
Lying is never ok under any circumstance. outside the city shall be liars.

Go look up the scriptures.
 
Timeline

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I don't really think that playing the lottery OCASSIONALLY is a sin, but I never have because I think that if I buy one ticket then I will have bought into the possibility that I could win. And it turn might start buying them all the time.

But I would like to point out that buying a 20oz Soda is more of a waste than buying a one dollar lottery ticket. There is absolutely no nutritional value in most, if not all, sodas (it feels strange to use the word soda - in Texas we say "coke" instead of soda). There are many things besides the lottery that we waste our money on.

Jesus very clearly tells us not to worry - the end:)

Why be anxious?

As far as depression goes, I think that there are times in our lives when we can be depressed. And I don't really know the "medical" reasons for it. I lived in a certain town for about year and for some unexplained reason I felt vulnerable mainly when I was sleeping or trying to sleep. I felt like my family was not safe the whole time that we lived there. But at that time in my life I was not studying the bible and rarely read it. I believe my feelings were there because I did not have God in my life. I went to Church but that was all. How can we be depressed in Jesus Christ? Depression, I believe, is also connected to worry and anxiety most of the time.

Lying should be avoided, but we see that Rahab and her family was saved by lying to the enemy. Lying should be the exception, not the rule.

As for your "hobbies", I will let you decide.
 
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instead of soda).

Lying should be avoided, but we see that Rahab and her family was saved by lying to the enemy. Lying should be the exception, not the rule.
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I disagree on this point. Rehab did lie Yes but God saved her because she kept her word not because of how she did it.
Anther point to acknowledge is Rehab was not a follower of God and probably did no know about Gods view of lying.

The scripture clearly speak against lying.

Pro 6:16 These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
Pro 6:17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,

Pro 19:9 A false witness shall not be unpunished, and he that speaketh lies shall perish.

Pro 12:22 Lying lips are abomination to the LORD: but they that deal truly are his delight.

Eph 4:25 Wherefore putting away lying, speak every man truth with his neighbour: for we are members one of another.

Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

There are many texts that speak of how much the Lord hates lies.
 
Timeline

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I am certainly not encouraging lying. Sorry if that was implied. But I do not think that lying to a murderer (though I am not sure how that would work) would be wrong. But many people lie frequently and that is not good.

We should not practice lying. But if my kids were home alone and someone called the house (especially someone that was known to be dangerous), I would expect them to say that I was there, but unavailable - then hang up and call me. However, they would be punished for lying about most other things.
 
jag1977

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Last time I checked murder is ok in war time and lying is ok when your life is at risk.
 
John_agape

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Some people on this forum have lived sheltered lives.

Elijah and Peter both showed anxiety and fear and depression. Jonah was depressed. Oh the list is long.

Masturbation the way troubledgirl has described it is not lustful. We live on this earth, as Paul said "in this tent," and we have certain bodily functions. Masturbation in the way troubledgirl describes it is an answer to one of these bodily functions.

We are all different and our libidos are different. So what is easy for me can be difficult for someone else.

What is worse?
a) Not masturbate, and somewhere down the line be constantly getting lusty ideas, prayerfully fighting them down and feeling very proud of oneself. Finally in one's sleep there is a very realistic lusty dream with lustful emotions in turbo mode and ejaculating in the bed.
b) Masturbate as suggested above and get on with one's life.
 
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The supreme commandment is love, we are told not to lie because it is harmful to ourselves and others.

An example would be how to rest on the Sabbath. We must rest in the Lord when we give over working for ourselves that day. If we don't do the work of helping someone in need to express love for them, we are not honoring the Sabbath. The Lord's way always includes love.

In the same way, if we don't do all we can to help someone in trouble but legalistically "don't lie" it is sinful not to lie. Love comes first.
 
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RedTent said:
The supreme commandment is love, we are told not to lie because it is harmful to ourselves and others.

An example would be how to rest on the Sabbath. We must rest in the Lord when we give over working for ourselves that day. If we don't do the work of helping someone in need to express love for them, we are not honoring the Sabbath. The Lord's way always includes love.

In the same way, if we don't do all we can to help someone in trouble but legalistically "don't lie" it is sinful not to lie. Love comes first.
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what about the fact that Gods word say lies are wrong over and over and says that liars will not enter the kingdom?

Satan is the Father of lies why would we lie if Christ who only says truth is in us?
 
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troubledgirl said:
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Eternal Security says they are not sins.

--Eternal Security says there is nothing a Christian can do to be lost, becoming lost is an impossibility.

--Sin is the very reason men will be lost

--Ergo, these things must not be sin if a Christian can commit them and yet not be lost.
 
Brother_Don

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lying to protect someone from murderer? wheres the faith? people actually think God is that distant, that He can't intervene when He chooses. i'm really wondering what kind of god some of you serve.
 
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troubledgirl said:
Masturbation without watching porn and without thinking about anyone else than just yourself and your own body
Gambling and lottery
Worrying
Anxiety
Depression
Fearing
Lying in emergency (for example, if a murderer is looking for your friend, you have to save your friends life by lying to the murderer, and also if someone is about to bully you, then you have to lie so they don't bully you)

Are these things sins?
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You are either seriously mixed up or you are trying to stir up trouble.
 
troubledgirl

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tourist said:
You are either seriously mixed up or you are trying to stir up trouble.
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Seriously, why do you say that just because I ask that if those things I mentioned are sins? Seems like you are one prideful snob.
 
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