The Gaza Strip

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JaumeJ

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The Israel of this age at this time is not the Israel with the capital in heaven awaiting being brought down by our Maker.

I love Jews and all people, but Jews are first in my heart for what they have done for all mankind. One may argue this, but not with me please.

One thing one who loves should never do is to blame all the people of a nation for whatever their government perpetrates on mankind, not in democracies and not in dictatorships. Just as does our Father, so shall we take people one at a time.

The Israel we know here is the Lord's staging ground for the past and for the future. The lawless one and his prophet will most likely be Jews, as was Judas Iscariot. I believe this because the word is mostly via descendants of Abraham.
There is nothing being taught by Jews today to the world regarding the Word, for it has all been written for us all, complete with the Gospel of Yeshua.

Because I believe Daniel, Zecharias, Revelation and more, I believe the only thing that will come out of Israel for the Children of the Most High God to be watching for is the center for a world government after an international monetary collapse coupled with general chaos of government in al governments.

Yeshua had nothing to do with Caesar or Herod, so it is today with His Children. We love all people, but we have nothing to do with Caesar or Herod. In plain words we have a Kingdom and no dealings with earthly politics, not even Israel's of this age.
 
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Now I am wondering. If Israel was dispersed by the Syrians, and Babylon captured Judah, what threat was Israel to Gaza, and why would they suffer judgment by God?

Amos 1:6 Thus saith the LORD; For three transgressions of Gaza, and for four, I will not turn away the punishment thereof; because they carried away captive the whole captivity, to deliver them up to Edom:

Am I wrong by assuming there are 4 infractions? In other words, the Palestinians, are actually Philistines in the Bible. I have heard that they are one and the same.
Yes, the Palestines and the Philistines are the same: Palestine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I call them the Philisitinians.
 
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This is how i see it we all have one farther and one day regardless of where your from we will live under a one world order, where there is no chaos.

Jeruslem is in everyone heart and the prophesy about the being a bridge between Egypt and assryira (modern day Muslim territory) and Israel suggests that israel of that time is of this time now in everyone heart and so it must be that untill that day of peace comes and the believer comes marching home then your going to be in a state of war.....

Bombing Israel with bad interpretations of the law.......
 

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yes i believe those verses pertain to gaza for things to come.

Jeremiah - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
was one of the major prophets of the Hebrew Bible

Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee;
and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee,
and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.


Gaza - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
gaza in bible - Search results - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Sons of Noah - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
6And the sons of Ham; Cush, and Mizraim, and Put, and Canaan.
8And Cush begat Nimrod: he began to be a mighty one in the earth.
13And Mizraim begat Ludim, and Anamim, and Lehabim, and Naphtuhim,
14And Pathrusim, and Casluhim, (out of whom came the Philistines,) and Caphtorim.

The Bible paints the Philistines as the main enemy of the Israelites
Philistines - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Philistine culture became almost fully integrated with that of Canaan and the Canaanites.
The deities they worshipped were Baal, Astarte, and Dagon,
whose names or variations thereof appear in the Canaanite pantheon as well.

Baal - Wiktionary
Astarte - Wiktionary
Dagon - Wiktionary

The following is a list of battles recorded in the Bible between Israel and the Philistines:

The Battle of Shephelah (2 Chronicles 28:18).
Israel defeated at the Battle of Aphek, Philistines capture the Ark (1 Samuel 4:1–10)—see Eben-Ezer; Aphek.
Philistines defeated at the Battle of Eben-Ezer (1 Samuel 7:3–14).
Skirmish at Michmash, Philistines routed by Jonathan and his men (1 Samuel 14).
Near the Valley of Elah, David defeats Goliath in single combat (1 Samuel 17).
Philistines defeat Israel on Mount Gilboa, killing King Saul and his three sons Jonathan, Abinadab and Malkishua (1 Sam31).
Hezekiah defeats the Philistines as far as Gaza and its territory (2 Kings 18:5–8).


Israel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Samaria - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Samaritans - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Tribe of Ephraim - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manasseh_(tribal_patriarch)

the Kingdom of Israel (including the cities of Shechem and Samaria) in the north and

the Kingdom of Judah (containing Jerusalem) in the south.

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The name Edom means "red" in Hebrew, and was given to Esau,
Edom - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Esau - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Because of the day that cometh to spoil all the Philistines,
and to cut off from Tyrus and Zidon
Tyre, Lebanon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Sidon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

the remnant of the country of Caphtor.
Caphtor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

But I will send a fire on the wall of Gaza, which shall devour the palaces thereof:
For Gaza shall be forsaken , and Ekron shall be rooted up,and Ashkelon a desolation:
Ashkelon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
they shall drive out Ashdod at the noon day
Ashdod - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
and Ekron shall be rooted up
Ekron - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The burden of the word of the LORD in the land of Hadrach
Hadrach - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
and Damascus shall be the rest thereof
Damascus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
And Hamath also shall border thereby
Hama - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

other world countrys in bible to idenify ?
British Empire - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Syria - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Egypt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Iran - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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China - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Africa - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Babylon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Old Persian - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Examples of Old Persian have been found in what is now present-
day Iran, Bahrain, Iraq, Turkey and Egypt

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Assur - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Assyrian continuity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Roman Empire - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Holy Roman Empire - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Kingdom of Germany - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Ancient Greece - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
History of modern Greece - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Byblos - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Kassites - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Elamite language - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Akkadian Empire - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Philip II of Macedon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Gog and Magog - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Magog (Bible) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The name Mongol is even derived from the name Magog.
russia and china and there areas make gog and magog together in land.


On 29 November 1947, the United Nations General Assembly recommended the adoption
and implementation of the partition plan of Mandatory Palestine.
United Nations Security Council - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

On 14 May 1948, David Ben-Gurion, the Executive Head of
the World Zionist Organization and president of the Jewish Agency for Palestine,
declared "the establishment of a Jewish state in Eretz Israel, to be known as the State of Israel,"
a state independent upon the termination of the British Mandate for Palestine,
on 15 May 1948.Neighboring Arab armies invaded Palestine on the next day and fought the Israeli forces.
Israel has since fought several wars with neighboring Arab states,
in the course of which it has occupied the West Bank, Sinai Peninsula (between 1967 and 1982),
part of South Lebanon (between 1982 and 2000), Gaza Strip and the Golan Heights.
It annexed portions of these territories, including East Jerusalem,
but the border with the West Bank is disputed.Israel has signed peace treaties with Egypt and Jordan,
but efforts to resolve the Israeli–Palestinian conflict have so far not resulted in peace.

Camp David Accords - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
a Framework for Peace in the Middle East
america and britian helped force Judah to take these peace deals still.
I believe the land for peace treaties is judahs wound.
When Ephraim saw his sickness, and Judah saw his wound,
then went Ephraim to the Assyrian, and sent to king Jareb:
yet could he not heal you, nor cure you of your wound.
and Hosea would fit and comes into play, along with others.

Psalms 83:13 alliance confederate againest them has never happened in history

2For, lo, thine enemies make a tumult: and they that hate thee have lifted up the head.
3They have taken crafty counsel against thy people, and consulted against thy hidden ones.
4They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation;
that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance.
5For they have consulted together with one consent: they are confederate against thee:
6The tabernacles of Edom, and the Ishmaelites; of Moab, and the Hagarites;
7Gebal, and Ammon, and Amalek; the Philistines with the inhabitants of Tyre;
8Assur also is joined with them: they have holpen the children of Lot. Selah.
9Do unto them as unto the Midianites; as to Sisera, as to Jabin, at the brook of Kishon:
10Which perished at Endor: they became as dung for the earth. 11Make their nobles like Oreb,
and like Zeeb: yea, all their princes as Zebah, and as Zalmunna:
12Who said, Let us take to ourselves the houses of God in possession.
13O my God, make them like a wheel; as the stubble before the wind.
14As the fire burneth a wood, and as the flame setteth the mountains on fire;
15So persecute them with thy tempest, and make them afraid with thy storm.
16Fill their faces with shame; that they may seek thy name, O Lord.


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The ancient Israeli tribe of Dan was suppose to conquer was is now (basically) the Gaza Strip. Instead, they settled in the Golan Heights which was/is in the northern sector of Israel. It is still in ruins after the 6 day war as a memorial to that time. Notice that Dan is not in the foundational stones in the New Jerusalem in Revelation.
 
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Ephraim is Great Britain, Manasseh is the United States and these two brothers carry the name Israel...

Gen 48:16 The Angel which redeemed me from all evil, bless the lads; and let my name be named on them, and the name of my fathers Abraham and Isaac; and let them grow into a multitude in the midst of the earth.
EPHRAIM:

The younger of Joseph's two sons (Genesis 41:50-52).

Ephraim and Manasseh, Joseph's sons, both became heirs to Abraham's promises and blessings. Their children became tribes of Israel (Genesis 48:8-20). Ephraim received the best blessing when Jacob blessed the boys before his death (Genesis 48).

Important Bible verses dealing with the tribe of Ephraim are:

Numbers 1:10-33; 2:18-24; 26:28-37; Deuteronomy 33:17; Joshua 14:4; 16:4-9; 17:8-17; 21:5-21; Judges 1:29; 7:24; 8:1-2; 12:1-5; 17:1-8; 19:1-18; Ezekiel 48:5-6.

In the Old Testament prophets, Ephraim is sometimes used to refer to the northern kingdom of Israel (Isaiah 7:2,5,8-9,17; 11:13; Ezekiel 37:16-19; Hosea 4:17; 5:3-15).

Ephraim also refers to the nation Israel as a whole (Jeremiah 7:15; 31:7-9,18-21).

Ephraim is not Great Britian and Manassah is not the United States...that is unless you subscribe to the false teaching of British Israelism.

What is British Israelism and is it biblical?
What should we learn from the tribe of Ephraim?
What should we learn from the tribe of Manasseh?
 
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This current conflict and war is unique among all the battles Israel has ever fought. If you look at this war from a prophetic perspective we stand to learn a lot from the situation. The enemy, Hamas, is battling Israel with tunnels, kidnappings, rockets, and media propaganda based upon a foundation of lies and deception. The Church-at-large would be well advised to understand that we are battling against the same tactics.
The enemy would like to tunnel into your life, kidnap your promise, and fire thousands of rockets over your life to create fear and anxiety... while the accuser of the brethren (satan) fills your mind with propaganda trying to convince you that it is all your fault.
As the Body of Christ, we need to pray for the peace of Jerusalem, and pray for the United States (our leadership) to have grace and stamina to finish what has begun in Gaza.
 
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Yes! i think it will lead to WWW III. Here the communist gov is aligned with their anti-jewish propaganda and, thats why Israel ask Canada´s embassy to take care of its Venezuelan few issues.
 
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What gets me is that the American media only portrays how many Muslims that Israel has killed and does not mention how many Hamas rockets have killed nor their targets. Just showing how awful Israel is for killing children when they hide their weapons on children backs. Can't y'all see the evil in Hamas, the hide weapons in schools and daycare and then cry foul when Israeli tank shells blow it up. They use and kill there own children for political reasons.
 
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What gets me is that the American media only portrays how many Muslims that Israel has killed and does not mention how many Hamas rockets have killed nor their targets. Just showing how awful Israel is for killing children when they hide their weapons on children backs. Can't y'all see the evil in Hamas, the hide weapons in schools and daycare and then cry foul when Israeli tank shells blow it up. They use and kill there own children for political reasons.
I agree and say it is called bias BS............!
 

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I wonder how many media types think the USA should not have insisted on brutal war with Japan until Japan surrendered unconditionally? Is that not what Israel should do with Gaza? The only alternative to that (of which I can think) is continuing war, continuing death, continuing horror.

IMHO, the only thing that could end that war is deportation of the entire Muslim population of Gaza. There is lots of room in the Moslem world. But somehow I don't think that will be done, but the horror will just go on perhaps until the Sea Beast of Rev 13, the Man of Sin of 2 Thes 2, the Prince of the People Who shall come in Daniel 9, makes this treaty with Israel for 7 years.

You have to wonder how long it will be before that covenant.

I don't know about you, but I am ready to hear that trumpet music. Handel does a good job of it in the Messiah: "The Trumpet Shall Sound."
 
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Well I'm thinking and just thinking that America is trying to tell Israel that they cannot defend them self. Then I'm thinking that if America does not help Israel then Israel has no where else to turn, just like the bible say's. You get the picture make sure your ready cause it could be any day.

And you know that the Muslim Obama will do whatever he can to support Hamas.
 

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EPHRAIM:

The younger of Joseph's two sons (Genesis 41:50-52).

Ephraim and Manasseh, Joseph's sons, both became heirs to Abraham's promises and blessings. Their children became tribes of Israel (Genesis 48:8-20). Ephraim received the best blessing when Jacob blessed the boys before his death (Genesis 48).

Important Bible verses dealing with the tribe of Ephraim are:

Numbers 1:10-33; 2:18-24; 26:28-37; Deuteronomy 33:17; Joshua 14:4; 16:4-9; 17:8-17; 21:5-21; Judges 1:29; 7:24; 8:1-2; 12:1-5; 17:1-8; 19:1-18; Ezekiel 48:5-6.

In the Old Testament prophets, Ephraim is sometimes used to refer to the northern kingdom of Israel (Isaiah 7:2,5,8-9,17; 11:13; Ezekiel 37:16-19; Hosea 4:17; 5:3-15).

Ephraim also refers to the nation Israel as a whole (Jeremiah 7:15; 31:7-9,18-21).

Ephraim is not Great Britian and Manassah is not the United States...that is unless you subscribe to the false teaching of British Israelism.
Good post Linda.
IMHO:
To me it is significant that the USA seems utterly absent from prophecy. Because of that my guess is that the USA will be destroyed in a nuclear war, perhaps nuked at the time of the Rapture, which would give an explanation for the disappearance of so many people. My guess is that the Church, like Lot will be yanked out of Sodom before it gets nuked with the USA. Our soil is defiled with the blood of millions upon millions of babies murdered at the altar of women's liberation (& man's responsibility for fornication). I see Sodomy now as the result of judicial hardening on men who refuse to have God in their minds or have an idol there of their own imagination. Already they march in the streets and demand privilege.
 
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Thanks. Are there any prophecies in the Bible that are for Israel today other than Ezekiel chapters 38 and 39?
The Lord predicted through the prophet Amos that He would “send fire upon the walls of Gaza, and it will consume her citadels” (1:6-8). The other pagan Canaanite/Philistine cities up the coast, Ashdod, Ashkelon, and Ekron, would be “cut off” and “the remnant of the Philistines will perish.” In future prophecy, during the period of the tribulation, God will bring judgment upon the nations surrounding Israel who have persecuted her. “Gaza will be abandoned, and Ashkelon a desolation.” “Woe to the inhabitants of the seacoast, … O Canaan, land of the Philistines; and I will destroy you, so that there will be no inhabitant” (Zeph. 2:4-5). This is a yet future event! The Jewish people will be rescued from the turmoil coming against them. “For the remnant of the house of Judah, they will pasture on it, in the houses of Ashkelon they will lie down at evening; for the Lord their God will care for them and restore their fortune” (v. 7). This great rescue event has yet to take place!
 
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What gets me is that the American media only portrays how many Muslims that Israel has killed and does not mention how many Hamas rockets have killed nor their targets. Just showing how awful Israel is for killing children when they hide their weapons on children backs. Can't y'all see the evil in Hamas, the hide weapons in schools and daycare and then cry foul when Israeli tank shells blow it up. They use and kill there own children for political reasons.
You're right Kerry. Actually the 'media' is helping God who told us what He would do. The Bible warns around the time of the coming ‘Apocalypse’ and Armageddon ALL nations will turn against Israel. God has also warned those people and nations who will someday soon divide the Land of Israel ...

Make no mistake about what God means by 'ALL' nations. He never said ALL nations except the United States. The uproar about Israel in the U.S. media alone shows that the United States will sadly be part of those nations "that will turn against Israel". MSNBC, ABC, CSPAN, CBS and Obama will see to that.

When our president Obama says things like: “America and Islam are not exclusive and need not be in competition. Instead, they overlap, and share common principles of justice and progress, tolerance and the dignity of all human beings.” You quickly know what God said is true when He said, "ALL nations".

"In those days and at that time, When I (God) bring back the captives of Judah and Jerusalem, (this will happen after 1948) I will also gather ALL nations, And bring them down to the Valley of Jehoshaphat; (outside Jerusalem ... 2 Chronicles 20:1-30) And I (God) will enter into judgment with them there On account of My people, My heritage Israel, Whom they have scattered among the nations; They have also DIVIDED up My Land." (Israel will be divided) (Joel 3:1-2)
 
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"In those days and at that time, When I (God) bring back the captives of Judah and Jerusalem, (this will happen after 1948) I will also gather ALL nations, And bring them down to the Valley of Jehoshaphat; (outside Jerusalem ... 2 Chronicles 20:1-30) And I (God) will enter into judgment with them there On account of My people, My heritage Israel, Whom they have scattered among the nations; They have also DIVIDED up My Land." (Israel will be divided) (Joel 3:1-2)

But dear Fishbait,

What leads you to believe that there will be a USA nation when Joel 3 is fulfilled?

Nations come & go in history. There used to be this nation called The Soviet Union. Tibet used to be a nation. There was no United States of America just a few hundred years ago. Elam & Phrygia come to mind. Sodom is no more. Can you imagine a large Canada & a large Mexico with no USA between? Or just the Apache nation between?
 
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I received this email from Jewish Awareness Ministries today. If you think America is immune to what is going on in Israel, think again. The terrorists are HERE....but you probably know that...right?

Dear supporter of Israel:

The following article by Mordechai Ben-Menachem is a must read to understand the danger Israel is confronted with by HAMAS.

One of the alarming points of this article for those of us living in the U.S., and especially the southern border, is that these type of tunnels are being dug from Mexico into our country. Ben-Menachem states
"As previously reported here, this sophistication and know-how is being copied right now by Mexico-based Hezbollah agents along the Southern US border."

I believe God's judgment is not just imminent upon this country, but is, in fact, happening presently. Homosexual approval and marriages, abortions, and the unquestionable anti-Israel position of our current president and his administration are ample biblical reasons for God's judgment on the U.S. Unbelievers will scoff, but don't be deceived - God is not mocked!

Is our lax security and, essentially, open borders paving the way for catastrophic attacks in this country?

Come Lord Jesus!

Mark Robinson
Right now, all I have is the article in email format...I'm looking for it's source. But that intro by Mark Robinson is quite revealing.

I found the article here:

Stories From The Battlefield: Hamas Tunnels Used To Target Israel's Kindergartens | The Daily Caller
 
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Written by Daniel Meyoseff an Israeli who's friend was an Israeli soldier killed in the line of duty last week while defending Israel from Hamas. : “A day of the Lord is coming, Jerusalem, when your possessions will be plundered and divided up within your very walls. I will gather all the nations to Jerusalem to fight against it; the city will be captured, the houses ransacked, and the women raped. Half of the city will go into exile, but the rest of the people will not be taken from the city. Then the Lord will go out and fight against those nations, as he fights on a day of battle. On that day his feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, east of Jerusalem,…Then the Lord my God will come, and all the holy ones with him.” (Zechariah 14:1-5)

Pray on this: Father, help us to take the Word of God as your last word on any subject. Deliver us from taking the word of the political elites and a final word and make our plans and act accordingly. Give us, by your Holy Spirit, your wisdom and discernment in the age of prevailing deception. In Jesus’ name, AMEN!
 
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What I am going to offer is a concept that is world wide, and also in the community and in some cases, even within the confines of a family.

The reason people hate Christians and Jews (plus their ways) is because of God Almighty. That doesn't make God wrong, it just shows the division that is in existence before it is revealed. The reason the radical Muslims hate the Jews and Christians is because of what God has done.