DO YOU REALLY KNOW HIM?

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DO YOU REALLY KNOW HIM?

'If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth...' - 1 John 1 vs 6

Beloved, do you truly know Jesus? This is a brief exhortation for thoughts, and I hope that changes springs up in your life in Jesus name. Amen.

Our opening scripture depicts a view to us, it says, if we say we have fellowship with Him, that is, if we say we know Him, and we walk in darkness, we lie! When the Lord brought this to my hearing, my response was like, 'what?' Note that to walk in darkness is to be yielded to the desires of the flesh.
My dear brother, my dear sister, no matter what you think, it doesn't matter if you think you are born again, it doesn't matter if you've received the Holy-Spirit, if your life is characterized by the flesh, then you don't know God!

From my life's experience, I have come to know that many who profess to be Spirit filled live their lives in lust after vain imaginations, malice, envy, lies, bribes, bitterness, hatred, masturbation, lesbianism, fornication, and the likes of the flesh, and they seem not to be Fazed by these terrible works they yield to. This is what the Apostle John is talking about in our opening scripture. If you are at this point where you think it doesn't matter whether your life is in the flesh just because you are saved by Grace, then you are so far from the knowledge of God, and you are really at the Risk of Judgement.

Listen, because we live in the flesh, it is utterly impossible for any of us not to have slight weaknesses at some point. When we make these mistakes, we
acknowledge these sins/errors in confession to God, and the eternal blood of Jesus cleanses us and we move on. {1 John 1 vs 8 - 10}But when your daily life is in sync with the flesh and it's deeds, then you are the one this Article is addressing.

WHY SHOULD A CHILD OF GOD NOT YIELD TO THE DESIRES OF THE FLESH?

First of all, let's understand the nature of the flesh! The flesh itself is the nature of sin. {Romans 8 vs 3} As a result of physical birth, the Adamic Nature was passed on us (it manifested in the flesh), hence we were sinful even at birth, because of that Nature. Now, when you confessed Jesus as your Lord, He filled you with His Holy Spirit, the Holy Spirit brought into you the Nature of Righteousness. Hence, God no longer wants you to be ruled by your former nature, but He wants you to be ruled by the new nature the Spirit brought; that's why 2 Corinthians 5 vs 17 says, old things are passed away, all things are bocome new. Your body became the temple of the Holy-Spirit. When you live in the flesh, you've taking a stroll out of the Grace covering. My dear, this is the truth even if it seems untrue to you because of what you think you know.

When you live in the Spirit, that is, when you live by LOVE which is the nature of Righteousness, then your little faults, your weaknesses are covered {1 Peter 4 vs 8}. That's Grace! But when you live your life in the flesh, you are in for death (spiritual death which speaks of Hell). {Romans 8 vs 13}

'What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?' - 1 Corinthians 6 vs 19 {KJV}

You see that? He said you are not your own! Therefore, when the Holy-Spirit entered inside of you, you ceased to be your own, you became the house, the habitation, the body of the Lord. Hence, we cease to live according to the Adamic Nature which is according to the flesh, but we now live our lives in the Spirit.

Think this in yourself, when you lust after vain thinkings and imaginations, you are directly saying the Lord himself is lusting. God Forbid! Because we are told that our body is His body and we are not our own. When you touch (Romance) the body of a girl or a boy and do all manner of touchings, the Bible calls that sexual promiscuity {Romans 13 vs 13 NLT Bible}, you are directing saying the Lord is touching. God Forbid!

'Because we belong to the day, we must live decent lives for all to see. Don't participate in the darkness of wild parties and drunkenness, or in sexual
promiscuity and immoral living, or in quarreling and jealousy.' - Romans 13 vs 13 {New Living Translation}

You see that? When you lie, you are directly saying the Lord lies. God Forbid! When you fornicate, you are directly saying the Lord fornicated. God Forbid! Are you amazed or in doubts still? Let me show you some more;

1 Corinthians 6:15 Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I then take the members of Christ, and make them the members of an harlot? God forbid.

6:16 What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh.
{KING JAMES VERSION}

Did you see that? Notice verse 15, it didn't say we make our members part of the members of an harlot, it says we make them the very members of the harlot.That's what happens during sex, the two fellows are joined by blood covenant, they become one! That's what you mean to do when you commit fornication with the temple of the Lord, to join the Lord with error. God Forbid! Little wonder the new testament spent almost all her time warning us against fornication and whoredom.

Listen, if the Spirit of God was not in you, that would have been a diffrent case. But now, your body is His body, hence, you cannot live the way you like. You've got to live your life His way and not your way. His way is LOVE. {Galatians 5 vs 22} The nature of the flesh is SIN, the nature of the Spirit is LOVE! We ought to cautioisly live by the nature of the Spirit as becometh Saints and not according to that old nature.

When the realization of this Truth dawns on you heavily, you will never yield to the flesh to fulfill it's lust anymore for the rest of your life. That Revelation automatically becomes your guide, and at that point, you just knew Him! - Selah

God Bless You.
- Pastor Jenning Uweye

Many More @ Pastor Jenning Online
 
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Pastor Jenning you said "Note that to walk in darkness is to be yielded to the desires of the flesh." Are sure that's what walking in darkness means? It seems to me that light and darkness mean knowledge and lack of knowledge rather than yielding or not yielding to sin. Jesus came to give light to guide us. What do you think?

Luk_1:79 To give light to them that sit in darkness and in the shadow of death, to guide our feet into the way of peace.

 
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Pastor Jenning you said "Note that to walk in darkness is to be yielded to the desires of the flesh." Are sure that's what walking in darkness means? It seems to me that light and darkness mean knowledge and lack of knowledge rather than yielding or not yielding to sin. Jesus came to give light to guide us. What do you think?

Luk_1:79 To give light to them that sit in darkness and in the shadow of death, to guide our feet into the way of peace.

The scientists who discovered the atom bomb had knowledge but apparently didn't have any WISDOM to use the knowledge properly...wouldn't you agree?
 
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The scientists who discovered the atom bomb had knowledge but apparently didn't have any WISDOM to use the knowledge properly...wouldn't you agree?
??? What does that have to do with anything related to what I posted?
 
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??? What does that have to do with anything related to what I posted?
What was the tree of the knowledge of good and evil? Knowing good and evil is knowledge but the one we choose tells us if we have wisdom from God or not. You can have all the knowledge in the world and not get your salvation.
 
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What was the tree of the knowledge of good and evil? Knowing good and evil is knowledge but the one we choose tells us if we have wisdom from God or not. You can have all the knowledge in the world and not get your salvation.
Yes that's why I said light is knowledge, knowledge of God. That's what Luk_1:79 is about. I don't see walking in darkness meaning walking is sin, it means walking without the knowledge of God.
 
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Yes that's why I said light is knowledge, knowledge of God. That's what Luk_1:79 is about. I don't see walking in darkness meaning walking is sin, it means walking without the knowledge of God.
Now ask yourself, "Do we really have knowledge of God"?

We live in a world in which money dictates who lives and who dies, believing in a book that states that we were made in the image of our Creator.
 
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God cannot live with sin, if we have resentments, hates, addiction to the flesh these things separate us from God.

Isaiah 59:2 (NIV) But your iniquities have separated you from your God; your sins have hidden his face from you, so that he will not hear.

When Jesus healed the lame man he simply said: Luk_5:23 Which is easier, to say, 'Your sins are forgiven you,' or to say, 'Stand up and walk'?

We can do the same for ourselves by honestly searching our heart, being forgiven, and repenting. Honesty with ourselves is not easy to come by, but with prayer and putting the word into our minds we can do it.

I think that not being careful of what we put in our minds we can cause ourselves bodily harm.
 

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There is a difference between receiving eternal life, and then not pursuing Christ, and receiving Christ and then seeking Him out.

So someone CAN be saved and not really KNOW Jesus.. as in, have pursued Jesus after receiving eternal life. I believe this is what John is talking about in 1 John. He isn't saying.. if you have received Christ and walk in darkness.. you are doomed to hell. This would contradict the fact someone has ETERNAL life.

John 3:16-- eternal life.. . John 5:24... eternal life... John 3:36... etc etc...

So we walk in the light to be close to Jesus.. to really know Him. If, after we have received eternal life..and then walk in darkness.. He will discipline, rebuke and admonish us.. but we aren't doomed.

A father when he is doing his job right.. doesn't cut us from his family when we are naughty.. but commits to us and disciplines.

Saved person.. and saved and faithful... different states. One doesn't know Jesus fully.. the other does.
 
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Now ask yourself, "Do we really have knowledge of God"?

We live in a world in which money dictates who lives and who dies, believing in a book that states that we were made in the image of our Creator.
Yeah I think we all have varying degrees of knowledge of God.
 
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I wish we can understand how simple it is to have true peace.
True peace comes when you enter the promised land... I'm not talking about heaven. I'm talking about the land flowing with milk and honey. One of my favorite verses in the bible:

1Sa_14:29 Then said Jonathan, My father hath troubled the land: see, I pray you, how mine eyes have been enlightened, because I tasted a little of this honey.
 
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True peace comes when you enter the promised land... I'm not talking about heaven. I'm talking about the land flowing with milk and honey. One of my favorite verses in the bible:

1Sa_14:29 Then said Jonathan, My father hath troubled the land: see, I pray you, how mine eyes have been enlightened, because I tasted a little of this honey.
We have already entered it. All of the evil you see here is because we love death.
 
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I dont really like some of the ideas in th OP I especially thought saying when we think of sexual vain things that is saying the lord himself is Lusting is going to far.
 

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I dont really like some of the ideas in th OP I especially thought saying when we think of sexual vain things that is saying the lord himself is Lusting is going to far.

"God forbid!"

what he is saying is that if we claim to be walking after the Spirit, and we do such things, it is tantamount to claiming that the Spirit is leading us into sin. if we say "we are the body of Christ" and we ourselves engage in such behavior, by our actions we are saying Christ does such things -- a lie! we are not walking in the truth if we live this way.

not that God approves of sin or that we cause God to sin. but that if we who bear His name sin willfully, without confession & repentance, then our lives tell this lie, as though we say God approves or does these things.

so if we act in that way, we are not walking in the light, but in darkness. we're deceiving ourselves and broadcasting a false Christ to the world. this is why we must confess our sin, and we must repent, and we must love mercy & righteousness and keep ourselves from evil -- there is no other fitting way to bear the name of Jesus.
 
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Yeah I think we all have varying degrees of knowledge of God.
The problem isn't so much our knowledge of God, but become clean enough that God can know us. When we clear out the barriers between us and God and invite God in to our lives that are cleaned through Christ, He can know us and we can then know Him. It requires absolute honesty with ourselves, and a willingness to give up all over to God as He created us to be. A child can do this best, a child is humble before the Lord.
 
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The problem isn't so much our knowledge of God, but become clean enough that God can know us. When we clear out the barriers between us and God and invite God in to our lives that are cleaned through Christ, He can know us and we can then know Him. It requires absolute honesty with ourselves, and a willingness to give up all over to God as He created us to be. A child can do this best, a child is humble before the Lord.
No that's not true RedTent and that's why I responded to this thread to begin with. Our relationship with God has nothing to do with how much we sin! We all sin every single day... your sin is just as bad as my sin which is just as bad as any LOST persons sin. Sin does not separate us from God, not being saved separates us from God.

Christianity is not about rule keeping, it's about knowing God and developing a relationship with him through the pages of the bible. My son does things wrong often... I still love him with all my heart... his wrong doing has absolutely nothing to do with my love for him... his wrong doing has absolutely nothing to do with my relationship with him... he CAN NOT Earn My Love.
 

p_rehbein

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He really knows me............and I'll go with Him! (just saying......... :) )
 
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ISAIAH 59:2.
But your iniquities have separated between you and your God,
and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.

JOHN 15:9-10-
As The Father has loved Me, so have I loved you:
continue you in My love.

If you keep My Commandments, you shall abide in My love,
even as I have kept My Father's Commandments, and abide in His love.

These things have I spoken unto you, that My joy might remain in you,
and that your joy might be full.
 

p_rehbein

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QUOTED: If you keep My Commandments, you shall abide in My love, even as I have kept My Father's Commandments, and abide in His love. END QUOTATION............

It puzzles me that Jesus would say this.........after all those predestined for eternal life must keep His Father's Commandments, and those predestined for damnation can't possibly do so........it's surely a mystery to me.......