The Last Trump
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Not necessarily the 7th trumpet in Revelations, IMO. It's the second coming of the Lord, in which all dead will be raised and the living shall be changed in a twinkling of an eye. Some people will be raised unto condemnation, while others to eternal life.
John 5:28-29
28 Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear His voice 29 and come forth—those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation.
John 5:28-29
28 Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear His voice 29 and come forth—those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation.
Once the world's economies fall and hell breaks loose, after that people will realize they never had to live like we do to begin with. And all will love and respect one another. It will no longer be about who goes to church on what day, what a person eats, what name he uses for God, what color you are, how much money you have, and your sex or sexual preferences.
It will be about giving people a place to live, healthy food to eat, and transportation and education available to all. Men will no longer fight each other over the land they die in, but help one another and carry each other's burden.
Things like mowing the lawn for an elderly lady. There will be no more violence, crime, and men will have learned to work together like the ant colony. This is the day I have dreamed about. This is the day I work and speak towards and into my reality! When we, the bride will have finally made herself ready, and we will instantaneously be removed from our flesh, not having tasted death as so many before them. The veil of what separates us will finally be removed! No more black or white, male or female, but children of the Most High, in which all those we've lost over these 1000's of years will be joined unto the living. Not just to live on our cradle planet earth, but to spread throughout this vast and wonderful universe and make it our home!
No longer confined like a bird in a cage, but free to subdue all we see, because we finally learned to love one another!
It is a beautiful day my friends! I have seen it in faith from a distance.
But the first step is getting rid of money! It is a hindrance and the love of it is the cause of the evil we see.
It will be about giving people a place to live, healthy food to eat, and transportation and education available to all. Men will no longer fight each other over the land they die in, but help one another and carry each other's burden.
Things like mowing the lawn for an elderly lady. There will be no more violence, crime, and men will have learned to work together like the ant colony. This is the day I have dreamed about. This is the day I work and speak towards and into my reality! When we, the bride will have finally made herself ready, and we will instantaneously be removed from our flesh, not having tasted death as so many before them. The veil of what separates us will finally be removed! No more black or white, male or female, but children of the Most High, in which all those we've lost over these 1000's of years will be joined unto the living. Not just to live on our cradle planet earth, but to spread throughout this vast and wonderful universe and make it our home!
No longer confined like a bird in a cage, but free to subdue all we see, because we finally learned to love one another!
It is a beautiful day my friends! I have seen it in faith from a distance.
But the first step is getting rid of money! It is a hindrance and the love of it is the cause of the evil we see.
It is the collective mindset of the people in a state of consciousness. Right now, our collective mind serves the system. When we serve ourselves in the rest provided by God, our collective mindset will be changed, never going back to a dead mindset again. It is sort of like a dog whistle. You won't hear it, but you will know the change, because you will not work for what is not God anymore.
You must realize that at certain points in our history, our collective mind changes. 2000 years ago, Romans took their children to see lions rip apart Christians. To the society of that day, it was normal. But in ours???? Therefore during their trumpet sound, it was so.
We all move to the beat of the drum, so to speak.
We all move to the beat of the drum, so to speak.
It's not the zeitgeist. Remember first that we battle not flesh and blood, but powers and principalities. That means what we THINK is wrong or right by appearances. Take again or system of money. No matter who comes or goes, that principality is still dominant. It was set up long before we got here and has ruled over the thoughts of men since iniquity.
What that boils down to is that if you take a child that knows neither good nor evil, and place him in a poor environment, he will act according to that environment. If you were born in a rich environment, you will act rich.
This is what the bible is about when you understand that first, it was not written in your present day language, and therefore the meaning is coded, and for good reason.
If the mighty men fully understood what the bible was saying, they would NEVER have given the people a copy.
In the story in Revelation, you read of 10 kings that have given their collective power to the beast.
The 10 kings are the 10 nations of Israel that are lost, due to these powers and principalities who are of one mind. That is where the power comes from, the mind and will of a person.
Again if our collective mind REALLY wanted to stop gun violence, we would stop making and selling guns.
Even in Genesis, we find this coded in the words. The sons of God came into the daughters of men.
The sons of God are us before we get entangled in the affairs of how the world works. One man or woman over time grows up in their environment and becomes a Christian. Another man or woman grows to be a Muslim. Both influenced by their environments used as a help meet (daughters of men). This produce mighty men or the Nephelim.
Again using money as an example, when someone came up with the idea of bartering. There were men by reason of circumstance and environment who were better and more profitable than others. This produced what we see as value in those that became rich by these ideas of men.
This is how these very same people were found AFTER the flood. It was only Noah and his family. Say barter ended with the flood. But someone on that boat carried the IDEA with them and started over with it.
What that boils down to is that if you take a child that knows neither good nor evil, and place him in a poor environment, he will act according to that environment. If you were born in a rich environment, you will act rich.
This is what the bible is about when you understand that first, it was not written in your present day language, and therefore the meaning is coded, and for good reason.
If the mighty men fully understood what the bible was saying, they would NEVER have given the people a copy.
In the story in Revelation, you read of 10 kings that have given their collective power to the beast.
The 10 kings are the 10 nations of Israel that are lost, due to these powers and principalities who are of one mind. That is where the power comes from, the mind and will of a person.
Again if our collective mind REALLY wanted to stop gun violence, we would stop making and selling guns.
Even in Genesis, we find this coded in the words. The sons of God came into the daughters of men.
The sons of God are us before we get entangled in the affairs of how the world works. One man or woman over time grows up in their environment and becomes a Christian. Another man or woman grows to be a Muslim. Both influenced by their environments used as a help meet (daughters of men). This produce mighty men or the Nephelim.
Again using money as an example, when someone came up with the idea of bartering. There were men by reason of circumstance and environment who were better and more profitable than others. This produced what we see as value in those that became rich by these ideas of men.
This is how these very same people were found AFTER the flood. It was only Noah and his family. Say barter ended with the flood. But someone on that boat carried the IDEA with them and started over with it.
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here are lots of trumps
the last one is the last trumpet or announcement to the earth
Jesus announces the resurection of the righteous by faith
and they come up from their graves, not down from heaven, and they get up and go up to the cloud where Jesus WAITS
Jesus does NOT WALK ON THE GROUND
JESUS THE REAL ONE DOES NOT WALK ON THE GROUND and he has scars on his hands
the FALSE CHRIST WTH BLOND HAIR AND DIAMOND EARRINGS WALKS ON THE GROUND and tells everyone these two lies
1. he says its ok to live in adultery, remarriage after divorce and in fornication
2. he says he changed sabbath to sunday
by these two lies you will know it is satan in disquise
God cannot change the law
satan invented the day of sun god baal worship at babylon tower of bable
and they were building an heirarchical temple with priests and fornicators on levels, the highest ones had the most prostitutes (that is historical babylon religion)
they worshipped on the day of the sun God tammuz
and God got angry
he came down and changed all languages
and in EACH LANGUAGE OF THE PLANET he called the seventh day SABBAT
every language on the planet the seventh day is called SABBAT
there is first day second day third day fourth day fifth day sixth day na dthen there is SABBAT
so
we now babylon
happed
we now the tower of babel was real
we know the languages were all changed by GOD and we know the sabbath is the right day to wrorship God put it in every language
but men are stubborn.
he split them all up and sent them around the earth.
and still they wanted to worship idols (man made things) on the idol day
Those who pray and read the Bible wil see the truth
and the truth will set you free from babylons religion
revelation says ALL GODS PEOPLE are still in babylon
come out of Babylon religion
that is the message to the last generation
stop worshipping with babylon my people worship GOD WHO CREATED THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH ON THE 6 days and rested the SAbbath
Babylon religion is a fallen relision
and if you take the mark of the beast RFID in your hand I can no longer help you, you will be contrlled by the devil
this of course is a message that shows there is no predestination
for you must choose wether you take the mark of the beast or not
there is a guaranteed way to be eternally lost
it is the last test
take the RFID and there is no more return from death eteranlly.God said it, you will go to the lake of fire
reject the RFID mar of the Beast and you will live
choice.
the last one is the last trumpet or announcement to the earth
Jesus announces the resurection of the righteous by faith
and they come up from their graves, not down from heaven, and they get up and go up to the cloud where Jesus WAITS
Jesus does NOT WALK ON THE GROUND
JESUS THE REAL ONE DOES NOT WALK ON THE GROUND and he has scars on his hands
the FALSE CHRIST WTH BLOND HAIR AND DIAMOND EARRINGS WALKS ON THE GROUND and tells everyone these two lies
1. he says its ok to live in adultery, remarriage after divorce and in fornication
2. he says he changed sabbath to sunday
by these two lies you will know it is satan in disquise
God cannot change the law
satan invented the day of sun god baal worship at babylon tower of bable
and they were building an heirarchical temple with priests and fornicators on levels, the highest ones had the most prostitutes (that is historical babylon religion)
they worshipped on the day of the sun God tammuz
and God got angry
he came down and changed all languages
and in EACH LANGUAGE OF THE PLANET he called the seventh day SABBAT
every language on the planet the seventh day is called SABBAT
there is first day second day third day fourth day fifth day sixth day na dthen there is SABBAT
so
we now babylon
happed
we now the tower of babel was real
we know the languages were all changed by GOD and we know the sabbath is the right day to wrorship God put it in every language
but men are stubborn.
he split them all up and sent them around the earth.
and still they wanted to worship idols (man made things) on the idol day
Those who pray and read the Bible wil see the truth
and the truth will set you free from babylons religion
revelation says ALL GODS PEOPLE are still in babylon
come out of Babylon religion
that is the message to the last generation
stop worshipping with babylon my people worship GOD WHO CREATED THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH ON THE 6 days and rested the SAbbath
Babylon religion is a fallen relision
and if you take the mark of the beast RFID in your hand I can no longer help you, you will be contrlled by the devil
this of course is a message that shows there is no predestination
for you must choose wether you take the mark of the beast or not
there is a guaranteed way to be eternally lost
it is the last test
take the RFID and there is no more return from death eteranlly.God said it, you will go to the lake of fire
reject the RFID mar of the Beast and you will live
choice.
You are right on Zinzerio, that's how we understand the New Testament. The first thing we should do when we see trumpet in the New Testament is go to the Old Testament to understand what it is. There's a famous trumpet in Numbers:
Num 10:2 Make thee two trumpets of silver; of a whole piece shalt thou make them: that thou mayest use them for the calling of the assembly, and for the journeying of the camps.
Look at the purpose of the trumpet, then think about the New Testament version of that. The trumpet is to call the assembly together and to be with the camp on their journey. What does that in the New Testament?
Num 10:2 Make thee two trumpets of silver; of a whole piece shalt thou make them: that thou mayest use them for the calling of the assembly, and for the journeying of the camps.
Look at the purpose of the trumpet, then think about the New Testament version of that. The trumpet is to call the assembly together and to be with the camp on their journey. What does that in the New Testament?
(Isa. 58:1), to call them to Christ,
2 Chron. 13:12), God himself is with us for our captain and his priests with sounding trumpets. (3.)
(2 Chron. 29:27) to intimate with what joy and delight they performed their duty to God, and to raise the minds of those that attended the services to a holy triumph in the God they worshipped. And then their performances were for a memorial before God; for he takes pleasure in our religious exercises when we take pleasure in them. Holy work should be done with holy joy.
2 Chron. 13:12), God himself is with us for our captain and his priests with sounding trumpets. (3.)
(2 Chron. 29:27) to intimate with what joy and delight they performed their duty to God, and to raise the minds of those that attended the services to a holy triumph in the God they worshipped. And then their performances were for a memorial before God; for he takes pleasure in our religious exercises when we take pleasure in them. Holy work should be done with holy joy.
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I always stand amazed how the word last is used by God and rejected and or spiritualized away by men. LAST means LAST and the context is the BODY PRESENCE of JESUS and OUR GATHERING TOGETHER unto HIM....SO go to the bible during the time frame Jesus is expected...find the LAST trumpet described and there you have it......
POST TRIBULATION/PREWRATH resurrection/rapture (so called) at the LAST trumpet...THE LITERAL 7TH trump of REVELATION.....
7 SEALS--->7 TRUMPETS...SHOUT with VOICE of GOD AT THE TRUMPET of GOD ASCENSION VICTORY REVELATION
OT PICTURE
Siege and FALL of JERICHO
1 Time around city 7 DAYS=SEALS
7th day 7times around city blowing trumpets with last TRIP ALL BLOW as ONE TRUMP with a SHOUT
WALLS fall ASCENSION and VICTORY over the wilderness of SIN
The wording of the siege and fall match exactly the words used in 1 Corinthians 15 and 1st Thessalonians 4 both which deal with the event in question.
POST TRIBULATION/PREWRATH resurrection/rapture (so called) at the LAST trumpet...THE LITERAL 7TH trump of REVELATION.....
7 SEALS--->7 TRUMPETS...SHOUT with VOICE of GOD AT THE TRUMPET of GOD ASCENSION VICTORY REVELATION
OT PICTURE
Siege and FALL of JERICHO
1 Time around city 7 DAYS=SEALS
7th day 7times around city blowing trumpets with last TRIP ALL BLOW as ONE TRUMP with a SHOUT
WALLS fall ASCENSION and VICTORY over the wilderness of SIN
The wording of the siege and fall match exactly the words used in 1 Corinthians 15 and 1st Thessalonians 4 both which deal with the event in question.
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Often trumpets are used in the OT and thereafter as a sign, command, or warning for an event such as war. But when spoken of in this case I think it's spiritual. It just means it's the time of the end, God has completed His church and the end of time as we know it will end. I don't think it has to be a literal trumpet, nor do I believe it is something that has to be heard. Just my thoughts on it, I could be wrong.