God does not Love Everybody

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ChosenbyHim

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The God of the Bible is not only a God of Love but He also is a God of Wrath. And those who do not turn from their sin and repent, one day God will cast those unrepentant sinners into the Lake of Fire. Believe it or not, There are people out there that God does hate. And do you know who it is that God hates??


Let's find out by reading the Holy Scripture:



Psalm 5:4-6 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

4 For thou art not a God that hath pleasure in wickedness:
neither shall evil dwell with thee.
5 The foolish shall not stand in thy sight:
thou hatest all workers of iniquity.
6 Thou shalt destroy them that speak leasing:
the Lord will abhor the bloody and deceitful man.

God hates the workers of iniquity. Not just the iniquity or sin, but the actual people who are committing the iniquity. And He absolutely abhors the bloody and deceitful men.

Also, It is those who know the Gospel but refuse to Obey it. Those who have been given the Gospel and yet they reject Jesus Christ, those same people are under the wrath of God. Therefore, God's love is NOT manifested on such people. If you want God's love, then you better go to Calvary (figuratively speaking), because all the love that God had showed up at Calvary.

So don't be fooled by these modern televangelists who are only preaching the positive aspects of God's nature and character while not preaching on the Negative aspects of His character and nature.
 

mystdancer50

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God does love everyone.

For God so loved the WORLD that He gave His one and only begotten Son, that WHOSOEVER believes in Him shall not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16

All inclusive. Yes, God hates iniquity, but He loves us all and He reveals this in many ways, the first of which being giving His only Son for the sins of all, if they will accept Christ as Lord and Savior. So, though there is justice and there is a price to be paid for rebellion and sin, it doesn't change the truth that God loves everyone.

I don't agree with soft preaching, either, but the word of God stands true and His love is too deep to navigate and too complex to understand.
 
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God so loved the world (John 3:16). The world. That means everyone. For Jesus is the Lamb of God that takes away the sins of the world (John 1:29). For He is not only the propitiation for our sins, but He is the propitiation for the sins of the whole world (1 John 2:2).


And why would Christ die for us while we are yet sinners if He didn't love them?
(Romans 5:8)


Why would Christ die for the ungodly if He didn't love them?
(Romans 5:6).


In fact, Jesus (Who is God Almighty in the flesh) displayed love towards those who did evil against Him when He said to the Father on the cross, "Father forgive them; For they know not what they do." (Luke 23:34).


For God takes no pleasure in the destruction of the wicked (Ezekiel 33:11) and He is not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance (2 Peter 3:9).


For God is love (1 John 4:8).
 
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Yeah, but what about passages that say that God loved Jacob and hated Esau?


Does it ever say Esau was tortured in hell because God hated him so much?
No, most certainly not.


In fact, the Bible says this about the word "hate."


Luke 14:26
"If any man come to me (Jesus), and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple."


Does this mean you have to hate your family to be Jesus' disciple? No. It is talking about a degree of love. Who do you love more? Your God or your family?
 
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There is a right way and a wrong way people can say "God loves the sinner and hates the sin."


The wrong way would be when a person defends their sin by saying God loves me but just hates the sin. However, this is taking the phrase too far, though. God does love all sinners because He died for them while they were yet sinners. But God does not condone or approve of a person's sins to the point of not punishing them. His love does not overstep His bounds of executing justice and righteousness. For a parent can love their child and still punish them. It's the same with God.


The right way to understand the phrase, God hates the sin and loves the sinner is to see how it applies to your life. For we are to be like Christ. So if we are to be like Christ (God), does God want you to hate sinners or other people like He does? Are we to be like the Westboro Baptist church? I don't think so. God wants us to love all people and lead them to the love of Jesus Christ so that they can be transformed or changed into a new creature. In fact, do you remember when Jesus essentially said if we don't hate our family we cannot be his disciples? Does that mean we are to physically hate our familes? Does that mean we should not love or provide for our family? No, of course not. We are to love our family like we would all people. For he that does not provide for his family is worse than infidel. What Jesus is saying were to put God first in our love. For the English translations we have is heavily influenced by the King James which was written in the 1600's. So words like "hate" are used in a different way than the way we would use it today.
 
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For it's a contradiction to love and hate someone at the same time. You either ultimately love or you hate someone overall. The only distinction is if you say you love them but yet you hate certain things that they do. In other words, it would be a contradiction for the Son of God to die in the flesh of a man so as to pay the price for sinners if He hated them.


This is not to say that God does not get angry or that there isn't a wrath of God. However, we have to understand that God does not hate sinners in the sense that we understand the word hate. God does not hate sinners. God loves sinners and desires them to repent. For if God hated sinners, then He would not want them to repent. God would do everything possible to hurt sinners every chance He got with no chance of mercy. For to hate someone is to make them your enemy. God is not your enemy. God can be your friend because He loves you so very much.
 
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Oh, and I do not believe sin exists outside the person who commits it because it is the person who actually does the sin. But God is capable of loving the sinner personally and yet He is also capable of hating their actions (i.e. sin), too. An example would be a parent who loves their child but hates their actions in doing the wrong thing. The parent can be grieved by their child's bad actions and still love the child personally. This is not a contradiction. It happens all the time every single day in the real world; And a parent is not wrong for loving their child despite what bad they might do. It would only be bad if the parent condoned their actions. It's the same with God.
 
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Yeah, but what about passages that say that God loved Jacob and hated Esau?


Does it ever say Esau was tortured in hell because God hated him so much?
No, most certainly not.


In fact, the Bible says this about the word "hate."


Luke 14:26
"If any man come to me (Jesus), and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple."


Does this mean you have to hate your family to be Jesus' disciple? No. It is talking about a degree of love. Who do you love more? Your God or your family?[/QUOTE]


Exactly,
the word hate is wrongly translated. It should be translated "love(d) less"
 
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Exactly,
the word hate is wrongly translated. It should be translated "love(d) less"
There is no errors in the preserved Word of God (i.e. the KJV).

For in ancient and even modern Semitic cultures. G. B. Caird, in The Language and Imagery of the Bible, notes the frequent use of hyperbole among Semitic peoples, and notes that "its frequent use arises out of a habitual cast of mind" which tends to view matters in extremes, or as we would say, "black and white." The Semitic mindset is dogmatic, and despises doubt; things are either one way or another, and there is no room for introspection.


Abraham Rihbany (The Syrian Christ, 98f) points to the use of "hate" in the Bible as an example of linguistic extreme in an Eastern culture. There is no word, he notes, for "like" in the Arabic tongue. "...[T]o us Orientals the only word which can express and cordial inclination of approval is 'love'." The word is used even of casual acquaintances. Extreme language is used to express even moderate relationships.


So verses in the Old Testament come to light of verses in the New Testament.




Source Used For last two Paragraphs:
mercifultruth (dot) com (slash) doesgodhate (dot) html
 

gb9

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now be careful about putting facts into a belief system. KJV only folks have their system in place and facts really irritate them. if it ain't in their belief system, must be a lie from hell.
 
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The OP never says that the meaning of hate is different now than long ago. As far as what we have learned the meaning of it in todays society to be. So why are you so sure he is using todays standard of the meaning of hate? Very unfair to judge instead of just reading what he wrote. I didn't take it to mean todays meaning of hate why did you right away?

He only quoted scripture, relax...........
 
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Does the OP think we should be preaching hell-fire? i think its better to share the Love of the Almighty God. Does the OP think its better for people to come to Christ Jesus because of fear, or because they want to be in a loving family of the Almighty. it is written that God's thoughts, and ways are much higher than mine, but in my thoughts it seems like God would want people coming to Him because they want to love Him, not because they are afraid of Him. Just saying i never cared much for hell-fire preaching, seems like honey will draw more than vinegar.
 

blue_ladybug

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Of course God loves EVERYBODY!! He hates their SIN, but he does not hate them personally. If God hated people, would he have created a world with billions of people in it? I dont think so, nope!! He loves all of us unconditionally, even when we sin. When we repent of our sins, he gladly forgives us and forgets our sin.
 
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now be careful about putting facts into a belief system. KJV only folks have their system in place and facts really irritate them. if it ain't in their belief system, must be a lie from hell.
What facts are you talking about? I have yet to run into a supposed contradiction in the KJV that I was not able to resolve. But if you don't want to believe God's Word is perfect and that it has been preserved for all generations as it plainly states, then you are free to not believe the Word of God.
 
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The OP never says that the meaning of hate is different now than long ago. As far as what we have learned the meaning of it in todays society to be. So why are you so sure he is using todays standard of the meaning of hate? Very unfair to judge instead of just reading what he wrote. I didn't take it to mean todays meaning of hate why did you right away?

He only quoted scripture, relax...........
The OP implies that God hates or has wrath towards people. That God hates you thou sinner. So we should just all join the Westboro Baptist Church then. You know because if God hates people, then we should hate sinners, too. But I don't believe God hates sinners. For if that was the case, then nobody would be saved. For it was God's love for the sinner which saves us. It is God's love for you and me which is the good news of the gospel. God does not hate and love us at the same time. God loves mankind but simply hates their sin and desires that all of them repent.
 
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Of course God loves EVERYBODY!! He hates their SIN, but he does not hate them personally. If God hated people, would he have created a world with billions of people in it? I dont think so, nope!! He loves all of us unconditionally, even when we sin. When we repent of our sins, he gladly forgives us and forgets our sin.
Amen sister.
 
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Anxiety94

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Romans 9:13 As it is written, Jacob have I love, but Esau have I hated 14. what shall we say? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid. 15. For he says to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. God straight up said he hated Esau! There are several proofs in the bible that God does not love every human.
 
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The God of the Bible is not only a God of Love but He also is a God of Wrath. And those who do not turn from their sin and repent, one day God will cast those unrepentant sinners into the Lake of Fire. Believe it or not, There are people out there that God does hate. And do you know who it is that God hates??
Let's find out by reading the Holy Scripture:



Psalm 5:4-6 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

4 For thou art not a God that hath pleasure in wickedness:
neither shall evil dwell with thee.
5 The foolish shall not stand in thy sight:
thou hatest all workers of iniquity.
6 Thou shalt destroy them that speak leasing:
the Lord will abhor the bloody and deceitful man.

God hates the workers of iniquity. Not just the iniquity or sin, but the actual people who are committing the iniquity. And He absolutely abhors the bloody and deceitful men.

Also, It is those who know the Gospel but refuse to Obey it. Those who have been given the Gospel and yet they reject Jesus Christ, those same people are under the wrath of God. Therefore, God's love is NOT manifested on such people. If you want God's love, then you better go to Calvary (figuratively speaking), because all the love that God had showed up at Calvary.

So don't be fooled by these modern televangelists who are only preaching the positive aspects of God's nature and character while not preaching on the Negative aspects of His character and nature.

I get what your saying but it could have been said better.

Is everyone a child of God? yes and no, yes in we are all his creation, but those that have not repented and put their faith and trust in Him scripture says are of their father the devil.

Is God love, no that is one of His attributes, but not His only attribute. All of Gods attributes are equal or He wouldnt be perfect!


Does God Love everyone no and yes, He dosent hate the sin and love the sinner, that is horribly wrong and yet in ignorance you hear it all the time.

God loves mankind enough to create a plan of salvation, at the same time scripture says Jacob I loved but Esau I hated.
It wasnt based on foreknoweledge though. It was based on the Spirit of Esau, and Edom is the only nation God promises to obliterate off the face of the earth and that is a yet future event for Edom.

The better way to ask what I believe you wanted, was is the atonnement limited? And the answer is yes.
I think that gets to the heart of what you want people to consider?
 
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God hates sin not people
 
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Also, It is those who know the Gospel but refuse to Obey it. Those who have been given the Gospel and yet they reject Jesus Christ, those same people are under the wrath of God.

To obey the gospel, is to know that our lord, Jesus, whom is God manifested in the flesh, took on flesh so as to become a sacrifice, atoning for sin in our stead...

1 Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

The core of the gospel is that He died, was buried and raised himself from the dead (John 10:18), thus having overcome death and the grave.

Now, to receive unto our selves what he has done for us, is to obey the gospel. That is to obey the death, burial, and resurrection.

Jesus said that we must be born again to enter the kingdom. Let's turn to John chapter three...

John 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
[4] Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
[5] Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.


Born again is of water and spirit. And, without this we cannot enter the kingdom. In fact, the book of Acts will cross reference this in chapter two...

[37] Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?
[38] Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.


If we are to obey the gospel, we would have to apply Jesus death, burial, and resurrection, we need to do exactly what Peter said to do...

1. Death = Repent
2. Burial = water baptism in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins
3. Resurrection = Holy Spirit


Romans 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
[5] For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:


Friend, there is only one way, the straight and narrow...

Matthew 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
Matthew 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.


God bless!