CAN A CHRISTIAN HAVE DOMONS ?

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How can a demon spirit indwell the same body at the same time as the Holy Spirit does?
 
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2Thewaters

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How can a demon spirit indwell the same body at the same time as the Holy Spirit does?
he cant

but the holy spirit only swells in those who are obedient in all things

peter had a demon and JEsus said so

whenever you disagree, argue or fight you have a demon

the spirit does not dwell in you all the time much like you have been told wrongly

the Bble says it is moment to moment

99 percent of the time the spirit doesnt dwell in you but is knocking and wanting in.

if you are watching star wars, be assured the spirit is not in you
afterwards if you pray he will come in
if you are drinking smoking pot or arguing
he is not in you

JEsus said it best to john the disciple

John you dont know what spirit is dwelling in you this moment




so

get born again and then he dwells in you again.
 
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2Thewaters

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Another way to put it

if you have the spirit, you do not sin...

so if you just sin
you didnt have the spirit obviously for that part of te day

they come in and out hundreds of times a day depending on your mood.

You can keep them out by praying all the time, and the you have the holy spirit again.
 
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How can a demon spirit indwell the same body at the same time as the Holy Spirit does?
People has some good in them, and some bad in them as well, you can't serve both of them while they both dwelling in your soul that will causes conflicts in your life, you'll eventually will choose one over the other.

Matthew 12:45 Then it goes and takes with it seven other spirits more wicked than itself, and they go in and live there. And the final condition of that person is worse than the first. That is how it will be with this wicked generation.”

Mark 5:9 Then Jesus asked him, “What is your name?” “My name is Legion,” he replied, “for we are many.”

Matthew 26:53 Do you think I cannot call on my Father, and he will at once put at my disposal more than twelve legions of angels?

John 3:12 I have spoken to you of earthly things and you do not believe; how then will you believe if I speak of heavenly things?

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My understanding is we are a three part person. Body, Soul and Spirit. The Body and Soul can be tormented by demons and if we do things in life that is against God then we are allowing satan to attack us and therefore allowing demons to have a foothold into our lives. If we are saved our spirit cannot be corrupted by demons. This is where you get Christians saying the Holy Spirit and demons can't dwell in the same place. That is my understanding of it. Maybe someone else can explain it better.
 
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phil112

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CAN A CHRISTIAN HAVE DOMONS ?
Short answer: No....can't have demons either, I might add.
 

p_rehbein

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How can a demon spirit indwell the same body at the same time as the Holy Spirit does?
........and for the 433nd time..........it can't, nor can domons, so don't worry about them either.........if you have the indwelling presence of the Holy Spirit...............if not............well, then ya better think about it I suppose........
 
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2Thewaters

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we are one person a living soul and you are wither under the control of the spirit of God or your own spirit and the evil spirits

it can change any momen.

there is no such thing as being SAVED.


so that no spirits can attack you
that is a false doctrine so that you wont be able to realize you must fight to remove bad spirits

if you dont THINK you can have a bad spirit you wont fight
so satan succesfully inhabits you and you never pray fro having him removed
that is as he wants


truth is you can change 490 times a day


the Bible says Peter was saved and then he had satan and then he was saved again

the story of Saul shows he can be under the holy spirit one time and the the devil the next and it went back and forth

he even told peter this and john the disciple this.
 
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When you HAVE THE SPIRIT OF GOD IN YOU YOU FOLLOW THE TEN COMMANDMENTS FULLY that is how you know

Numbers 14:24 But my servant Caleb, because he had another spirit with him, and hath followed me fully, him will I bring into the land whereinto he went; and his seed shall possess it.



bad spirits come on you sometimes, when they do you dont have the holy spirit.

Numbers 5:14 And the spirit of jealousy come upon him, and he be jealous of his wife, and she be defiled: or if the spirit of jealousy come upon him, and he be jealous of his wife, and she be not defiled:
the Bible says the spirit of jealousy can come on you at any time...

Num 11:24 And Moses went out, and told the people the words of the LORD, and gathered the seventy men of the elders of the people, and set them round about the tabernacle.
Num 11:25 And the LORD came down in a cloud, and spake unto him, and took of the spirit that was upon him, and gave it unto the seventy elders: and it came to pass, that, when the spirit rested upon them, they prophesied, and did not cease.

THEY DID NOT ALWAYS HAVE THE SPIRIT MOST PEOPLE DO NOT


Num 11:26 But there remained two of the men in the camp, the name of the one was Eldad, and the name of the other Medad: and the spirit rested upon them; and they were of them that were written, but went not out unto the tabernacle: and they prophesied in the camp.


the spirit does not dwell in you at all time

the false teachings say it does

it does not



it does at special times and it comes and goes

if you had the spirit all the time you could never sin
since you sin you dont have him all the time
the false doctrine of being saved with the SOIRIT ALWAYS IN YOU is false
not biblical

it makes you think you are saved while you are not.
false

Not all the people have spirit of God in them at all times

Num 11:29 And Moses said unto him, Enviest thou for my sake? would God that all the LORD'S people were prophets, and that the LORD would put his spirit upon them!

you can ask for it.
and he will give it
and the moment you decide to do wrong, it is gone.

it has nothing to do with if you will be saved or not at all.
all who remain faithful will be saved.
 
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My understanding is we are a three part person. Body, Soul and Spirit. The Body and Soul can be tormented by demons and if we do things in life that is against God then we are allowing satan to attack us and therefore allowing demons to have a foothold into our lives. If we are saved our spirit cannot be corrupted by demons. This is where you get Christians saying the Holy Spirit and demons can't dwell in the same place. That is my understanding of it. Maybe someone else can explain it better.
Yes, they cannot dwell with each other, that is why there will be a time when God will come to separate the wheat from the chaff.

Job 1:6 One day the angels came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came with them.
 
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Jude 1:18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
Jude 1:19 These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.
Jude 1:20 But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost,
Jude 1:21 Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.


you must keep yourself in the spirit of the love of God by your actions

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all you have to do is be SENSUAL and the spirit leaves you

that is the Bible

so,
say sorry and get it back.




1 John 4:11 Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another.
1 John 4:12 No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.
1 John 4:13 Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his Spirit.


When your LOVE is perfected you have the spirit

when it is not showing from you you have not the spirit

that is BIBLICAL dont believe once saved always saved spirit in you forever lie

it will get you lost.

the BIBLE SAYS you have to pray and llive circumspectly or you will loose the spirit.

read SAUL story he recieved the spirit and prophesied, then he lost the spirit, then he recieved the spirt then he lost the spirit and it repeated and trepeated and repeated....
read it
 
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2Thewaters

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Gods spirit never leaves you
you chase it away....

big difference

when you repent he comes back.

that is why we need to repent

the spirit is ONLY GIVEN to those who are obedient

tell me

are there any false prophets out there?
you know there are

1 John 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit,
but try the spirits whether they are of God:
because many false prophets are gone out into the world.


it is promised that false prophets have not the holy spirit

so arent there any people in your church who are saved and who are false prophets?
they cant be "saved" then can they?
they lost it

think a minute it is the truth.


if you teach against the Bible you lost the spirit.
 

Apostol2013

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They can through not being really born of God a counterfeit meani.g no Holy spirit gift , the Gift of the holy ghost is given for liberarion and empowerment but through a wrongfull living one opens the door of invitation for filthy spirits to enter, yes they can bd in a fallen or not living right christians look at the people allways trying to lower God's standards by making false salvation doctrines when we know we serve a Holy God ,and that jesus came to take away sin and if we abound in His love we will not sin but christians neex to accept the holy ghost goft and know how to utilize the gift .
 
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Its says that Paul had struggled, but he couldn't have had struggle with the same spirit that was in him? If a person is good, how can that person struggle with a good spirit? No, they can't struggle for they will be in harmony with one another. So Paul must of have had some demons that he had to fight off daily inside of his soul; because if there were no demons in him, he would never had been tempted at all.
 
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My understanding is we are a three part person. Body, Soul and Spirit. The Body and Soul can be tormented by demons and if we do things in life that is against God then we are allowing satan to attack us and therefore allowing demons to have a foothold into our lives. If we are saved our spirit cannot be corrupted by demons. This is where you get Christians saying the Holy Spirit and demons can't dwell in the same place. That is my understanding of it. Maybe someone else can explain it better.
Correct, my friend. Demons can inhabit the soul and body of Christians, but never a Christian's spirit when the Holy Spirit dwells there. I was going to skim quickly through this thread and not respond, because everything surfaces in time; but I had to respond to your succinct comment. Cheers, mate.