Modesty Workout!

[womanofchrist27]

I love how C. J. Mahaney describes immodesty: “Immodesty, then, is much more than wearing a short skirt or low-cut top; it’s the act of drawing undue attention to yourself. It’s pride, on display by what you wear."

#1 Put your arms straight in the air. Is your mid-drift showing?
#2 Touch your head. Can you see your armpits?
#3 Touch your shoulders. Did a button pop? Can you see your bra through your shirt?
#4 Touch your knees. Can you see down your shirt?
#5 Touch your toes. Can you see the bottom half of your butt?
#6 Sit on a chair. Are your knees showing?

If you answer yes to any of these six questions change and repeat!

1 Corinthians 6:19-20
Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God? You are not your own, for you were bought with a price. So glorify God in your body.

1 Timothy 2:9
Likewise also that women should adorn themselves in respectable apparel, with modesty and self-control, not with braided hair and gold or pearls or costly attire,

1 Timothy 2:9-10
Likewise also that women should adorn themselves in respectable apparel, with modesty and self-control, not with braided hair and gold or pearls or costly attire, but with what is proper for women who profess godliness—with good works.

1 Peter 3:3-4
Do not let your adorning be external—the braiding of hair and the putting on of gold jewelry, or the clothing you wear— but let your adorning be the hidden person of the heart with the imperishable beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which in God's sight is very precious.


Proverbs 31:30
Charm is deceitful, and beauty is vain, but a woman who fears the Lord is to be praised.



http://womenofchrist27.blogspot.com/

 

[crossnote]

a bit of restored femininity wouldn't hurt our culture.

...at first I though he said change and repent!

 

[CRC]

How refreshing!!

 

[p_rehbein]

http://womenofchrist27.blogspot.com/


Tried to find this, could not find anything when I Goggled it.........so don't know what to think about it.......

 

[Tintin]

So, armpits and knees are now considered stumbling blocks?

Colour me pink, but I don't see the point in saying something about modesty being more than just the clothes you wear and then everything else in the post (save for the Bible verses) being entirely about the clothes you wear.

 

[psychomom]

So, armpits and knees are now considered stumbling blocks?

Colour me pink, but I don't see the point in saying something about modesty being more than just the clothes you wear and then everything else in the post (save for the Bible verses) being entirely about the clothes you wear.

'member in the Victorian era when tables were covered to the floor
lest seeing a table leg would promote impure thoughts?

my 19 and 21 yo daughters thought that was hilarious when i told them about it.

 

[Nautilus]

I love how C. J. Mahaney describes immodesty: “Immodesty, then, is much more than wearing a short skirt or low-cut top; it’s the act of drawing undue attention to yourself. It’s pride, on display by what you wear."

#1 Put your arms straight in the air. Is your mid-drift showing?
#2 Touch your head. Can you see your armpits?
#3 Touch your shoulders. Did a button pop? Can you see your bra through your shirt?
#4 Touch your knees. Can you see down your shirt?
#5 Touch your toes. Can you see the bottom half of your butt?
#6 Sit on a chair. Are your knees showing?

If you answer yes to any of these six questions change and repeat!

1 Corinthians 6:19-20
Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God? You are not your own, for you were bought with a price. So glorify God in your body.

1 Timothy 2:9
Likewise also that women should adorn themselves in respectable apparel, with modesty and self-control, not with braided hair and gold or pearls or costly attire,

1 Timothy 2:9-10
Likewise also that women should adorn themselves in respectable apparel, with modesty and self-control, not with braided hair and gold or pearls or costly attire, but with what is proper for women who profess godliness—with good works.

1 Peter 3:3-4
Do not let your adorning be external—the braiding of hair and the putting on of gold jewelry, or the clothing you wear— but let your adorning be the hidden person of the heart with the imperishable beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which in God's sight is very precious.


Proverbs 31:30
Charm is deceitful, and beauty is vain, but a woman who fears the Lord is to be praised.



http://womenofchrist27.blogspot.com/

Seems a bit legalistic to be far. I mean really...knees? Thats a stretch for anyone to find attractive. Knees just aren't.

 

[womanofchrist27]

http://womenofchrist27.blogspot.com/


Tried to find this, could not find anything when I Goggled it.........so don't know what to think about it.......

I have never said the things I post on this thing or my blog is mine somethings are somethings are not. I was abused my whole life. I was at a low point in my life for three years the only reason I didn't kill myself because everyone in my family has told me to kill myself many times is because of God. I learned a lot just by looking things up and reading things. Moat of the things I post are things the I wrote down in a notebook that helped me. I thought they could be things that helped others get through the day if they where having a rough time. I do not have a big support system when it comes religion I thought this website would be a amazing source to help me build one but clearly I was wrong. Do not believe me read the comments under some of my post they are mean and rude. I am not one to cry and tell the world what I went thorough but when I get on chat try to say something make a comment reply to someones thought or just say hi no one response. It is just sad I guess I was meant to be alone on this journey. Sorry for posting to try and help someone realize the love God has from them.


And I know knees are a little extreme but just for safe measures

 

[p_rehbein]

I also said that once I found your Blog page, that there was some pretty good stuff there............please note that.....

 

[Simona25]

...at first I though he said change and repent!

Me too! )))

 

[Stephen63]

I love how C. J. Mahaney describes immodesty: “Immodesty, then, is much more than wearing a short skirt or low-cut top; it’s the act of drawing undue attention to yourself. It’s pride, on display by what you wear."

#1 Put your arms straight in the air. Is your mid-drift showing?
#2 Touch your head. Can you see your armpits?
#3 Touch your shoulders. Did a button pop? Can you see your bra through your shirt?
#4 Touch your knees. Can you see down your shirt?
#5 Touch your toes. Can you see the bottom half of your butt?
#6 Sit on a chair. Are your knees showing?

If you answer yes to any of these six questions change and repeat!

1 Corinthians 6:19-20
Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God? You are not your own, for you were bought with a price. So glorify God in your body.

1 Timothy 2:9
Likewise also that women should adorn themselves in respectable apparel, with modesty and self-control, not with braided hair and gold or pearls or costly attire,

1 Timothy 2:9-10
Likewise also that women should adorn themselves in respectable apparel, with modesty and self-control, not with braided hair and gold or pearls or costly attire, but with what is proper for women who profess godliness—with good works.

1 Peter 3:3-4
Do not let your adorning be external—the braiding of hair and the putting on of gold jewelry, or the clothing you wear— but let your adorning be the hidden person of the heart with the imperishable beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which in God's sight is very precious.


Proverbs 31:30
Charm is deceitful, and beauty is vain, but a woman who fears the Lord is to be praised.



http://womenofchrist27.blogspot.com/

I actually liked your Op, & think it quite correct.

 

[maxwel]

I have never said the things I post on this thing or my blog is mine somethings are somethings are not. I was abused my whole life. I was at a low point in my life for three years the only reason I didn't kill myself because everyone in my family has told me to kill myself many times is because of God. I learned a lot just by looking things up and reading things. Moat of the things I post are things the I wrote down in a notebook that helped me. I thought they could be things that helped others get through the day if they where having a rough time. I do not have a big support system when it comes religion I thought this website would be a amazing source to help me build one but clearly I was wrong. Do not believe me read the comments under some of my post they are mean and rude. I am not one to cry and tell the world what I went thorough but when I get on chat try to say something make a comment reply to someones thought or just say hi no one response. It is just sad I guess I was meant to be alone on this journey. Sorry for posting to try and help someone realize the love God has from them.

If you were abused your whole life, then you probably aren't very skilled at communication, or interpreting the actions of others toward you.

Getting over all the issues, and problems, caused by abuse, is going to take some time.

It's not accurate to assume everyone hates you because they don't respond the way you expect.
To get past all the abuse, you will have to "re learn" everything you know about speaking to others, and what to expect from them in return.

Example:
You come on here, apparently at the young age of 18, and post a LIST OF RULES for everyone to follow... as if you're all-wise, and you're giving everyone some schooling.
It may not be your intention to appear this way... but this is how you appear.
It's because years of abuse have skewed your ability to communicate properly with others.
Give it time.

 

[gypsygirl]

first, let me say, i appreciate the intention and effort made by the OP. it's not my intention to "bash" you, but rather speak on this excessively discussed topic as a whole.

that said, i'm personally (very) tired of the list of rules about what women are supposed to wear to reflect modesty.

on this list, knees and armpits??? another list i read somewhere here includes a woman's back are all areas that should be covered, in an effort to maintain modesty.

if some guy is going to look lustfully at my knees, it's going to be IN SPITE of the fact that i'm dressed appropriately for the occasion, and not because i'm walking around the walmart in an outfit that isn't suitable for the place i'm at--meaning that's not my problem anymore.

i know what's supposed to be covered on my body, as does almost every woman. here in the US, it's summer, and my knees, my arms, and yes, even my shoulders are going to be exposed. if i reach overhead to get something off the shelf, some unsuspecting shopper may even see my armpit.

give me a break.

when i go swimming and jet skiing, i wear a reasonable, modest-ish swimsuit that covers enough without impeding in the activity, and usually choose to wear a t shirt and board shorts when i'm not in the water.

i'm not going to feel badly about the fact that i'm actually dressed for the place and activity, nor should any woman have to bear that burden. i've been told by some here, directly or indirectly that christian women shouldn't be wearing swimsuits. *sigh*

we need to stop making women feel badly for dressing for the occasion they're in, and that they're bodies are so shamefully tempting that they have to walk around in denim birkas hiding ourselves.

for those of you who feel that we need more modesty threads, please hear this:

most women already know what modest looks like, and we don't need checklists of what to cover.

if you're dressing immodestly (unless you're so ingrained in that habit, i.e. a new christian or teen) you're WELL AWARE of that intention. and when i've made reasonable effort to be considerate of my brothers with my wardrobe choices, i'm done with feeling responsible.

men and women need to be eager to take responsibility for taking their thoughts captive, and the very direction of where they choose to linger with their vision. we're surrounded with potential stumbling blocks, and the overt and constant focus on immodest women seems like a knee-jerk effort to want to address the symptom of a root cause problem/solution.

 

[Stephen63]

IMO when it comes to modesty, I believe it's about the INTENTION behind the apparel.....

It isn't just about sex, as the majority thinks.......

Look at the scripture the Op used.....

I can wear clothes to church to look powerful, or successful, or rich, or important, or proud of style, or to show my arrogance, or to fit in with the 'saved' group, or to get people to gravitate around me, or, to make it short, the way much of the mega churches & the TV churches do it. To them, success & perfection is everything. YOU KNOW they don't let da poor people sit on da front row during their "broadcast". They are so into looking healthy, wealthy, & wise.

People crave attention much more in these areas than the 'hot' one everybody in the younger generation thinks about. True modesty in dress is to dress humbly & with meekness. Selah.

 

[psychomom]

I was abused my whole life. I was at a low point in my life for three years the only reason I didn't kill myself because everyone in my family has told me to kill myself many times is because of God.

aww, sweetie...♥

i'm so sorry.

love,
ellie

 

[starfield]

IMO when it comes to modesty, I believe it's about the INTENTION behind the apparel.....

It isn't just about sex, as the majority thinks.......

Look at the scripture the Op used.....

I can wear clothes to church to look powerful, or successful, or rich, or important, or proud of style, or to show my arrogance, or to fit in with the 'saved' group, or to get people to gravitate around me, or, to make it short, the way much of the mega churches & the TV churches do it. To them, success & perfection is everything. YOU KNOW they don't let da poor people sit on da front row during their "broadcast". They are so into looking healthy, wealthy, & wise.

People crave attention much more in these areas than the 'hot' one everybody in the younger generation thinks about. True modesty in dress is to dress humbly & with meekness. Selah.

I totally agree! Even a prudishly-dressed individual may have done so with wrong intentions such as to appear deceptive, sanctimonious, or show off. That's far from modesty. Man may be deceived but God cannot be deceived; He examines our heart so we should do things with pure motives.

 

[blue_ladybug]

I have never said the things I post on this thing or my blog is mine somethings are somethings are not. I was abused my whole life. I was at a low point in my life for three years the only reason I didn't kill myself because everyone in my family has told me to kill myself many times is because of God. I learned a lot just by looking things up and reading things. Moat of the things I post are things the I wrote down in a notebook that helped me. I thought they could be things that helped others get through the day if they where having a rough time. I do not have a big support system when it comes religion I thought this website would be a amazing source to help me build one but clearly I was wrong. Do not believe me read the comments under some of my post they are mean and rude. I am not one to cry and tell the world what I went thorough but when I get on chat try to say something make a comment reply to someones thought or just say hi no one response. It is just sad I guess I was meant to be alone on this journey. Sorry for posting to try and help someone realize the love God has from them.


And I know knees are a little extreme but just for safe measures

​Why do you keep posting this same exact reply in several of the other forums? A thread in one forum is more than sufficient. You need'nt post the same thread in multiple forums.

 

[Tintin]

men and women need to be eager to take responsibility for taking their thoughts captive, and the very direction of where they choose to linger with their vision. we're surrounded with potential stumbling blocks, and the overt and constant focus on immodest women seems like a knee-jerk effort to want to address the symptom of a root cause problem/solution.

A knee-jerk effort? Scandalous! Eyes averted. Don't you know knees are evil?

 

[Tintin]

​Why do you keep posting this same exact reply in several of the other forums? A thread in one forum is more than sufficient. You needn't post the same thread in multiple forums.

Five or six times just wasn't enough.

 

[Misty77]

1 Timothy 2:9-10
Likewise also that women should adorn themselves in respectable apparel, with modesty and self-control, not with braided hair and gold or pearls or costly attire, but with what is proper for women who profess godliness—with good works.

1 Peter 3:3-4
Do not let your adorning be external—the braiding of hair and the putting on of gold jewelry, or the clothing you wear— but let your adorning be the hidden person of the heart with the imperishable beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which in God's sight is very precious.

Stop making scripture fit your ideas instead of the other way around. The above verses are in the context of people overdressing for church, not dressing too sexually. Modesty is about being appropriate for the occasion, not drawing attention to oneself. MODESTY IS NEVER DEFINED IN SCRIPTURE SO CREATING A DEFINITION FOR ALL PEOPLE, FOR ALL TIME IS ADDING TO SCRIPTURE. IT'S LEGALISM. In fact, if your rigid adherence to a code of dress is drawing undo attention, then you are actually being immodest in the name of modesty; and forcing others to your own adopted standard is rude, arrogant, self-righteous, and wrong.

Right now, I'm visiting some rather conservative people. The Mr. left early for church, so I took off my cardigan though I was still wearing an otherwise appropriate strapless knit dress. Then his grown son came over unannounced. Neither he nor I seemed either bothered or titillated in the least. But that prompted a relative to stage an intervention to ask me to cover up more.

That hurt. And made me feel bad and objectified--especially when I am already graciously and of my own volition being a little more on the covered-up side of things out of respect for myself and my hosts. Even so, there was nothing immodest about what I was wearing; and I had nothing to be ashamed of. Besides, I had worn the cover up all morning and was going to put it back on before heading out, so it was a non-issue. The fact that she felt the need to remind me of something that wasn't even her place to tell me was belittling and shaming.

Are my shoulders really that shameful that it would justify making me feel like crap? Is the potential "stumbling block" of my collar bone of more value than my feelings? Are my parts and the "danger" that they pose worth more than my soul?

Just stop it. Now. PLEASE.

Please just be gracious. If you feel the need to lovingly reprove a sister or brother that you have a relationship with, then I support you. If you found this to be a helpful tip for your sisters in Christ, then word it as such and put it in the women's forum. And for the love of all that is holy, understand the scriptures that you are using and make sure that you are not just looking up verses to support what you already believe.